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Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 10:44:23 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Captain Thunk wrote:Are we meant to be looking forward to the day Hydra finally perfects their AT match fixing technique?
I'm not sure that would be in your own interests. At the moment our problems seem to be more HR related anyway.
If only Hydra just did what the other 62 teams manage to do year in, year out, I think you'd find all your problems disappearing - yet again, you think it isn't your fault. It really is a problem entirely of your own creation.
I don't recall any scandals involving other teams, it's literally just Hydra. it's a shame I seem to have failed to get you to see that.
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 10:53:36 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Your whole argument revolves around 'but honestly we didnt KNOW CCP would get upset that we fixed their entire tournament with outbreak! Our cheating wasnt technically against the rules, why are you holding it against us it's not fair we just want to play the game you guys. You guys?' :Cartman:
Nobody is that dense. Give it up. You goofed, now you're scared youre gonna get banned for real. Nothing you will say now will change the outcome of the verdict, and you're just making it worse trying to absolve yourself of any guilt.
Why is it so difficult to say okay we ****** up, it will never happen again, we will try and profit from the tournament through honest means in the future? Rive, I don't expect you to read everything I've posted. But please, don't pretend that it can all be summed up with a few sentences that point in the total opposite direction to everything I stand for in the game. If the final of ATIX had gone the way we had planned, which it absolutely did not, none of this would have happened. Unfortunately we were nowhere near as good at fixing AT matches as we thought we were and the whole thing turned in to the most embarrassing farce. It wasn't against the rules, be it technically or otherwise. Put it in italics or bold if you want. But it certainly screwed up a whole lot of things and I'm personally very sorry that it went that way. I'm not scared that I'll be banned btw. Because even if Kadesh fixed every match in the AT while simultaneously posting **** sandwiches to every CCP staffer it would never come back on me. We certainly ****** up in ATIX, but to say it will never happen again is not within my power. I will not be planning to profit from the AT, or anything else, by purely honest means because that's just not the game I play. But I have never and will never break AT rules.
LOL, by ATXX you might be good enough so it all looks legit is what you are saying..... |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 10:57:32 -
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Mr Rive wrote:Do you really think continuing on this line is going to gain you ANY support? You of all people are in no place to lecture me on effective PR.
Mr Rive wrote:You really can't win this one, no matter how hard you try to spin it. I'm sorry Rive, you seem to have forgotten that we did win this one.
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Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:00:55 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Do you really think continuing on this line is going to gain you ANY support? You of all people are in no place to lecture me on effective PR. Mr Rive wrote:You really can't win this one, no matter how hard you try to spin it. I'm sorry Rive, you seem to have forgotten that we did win this one.
First off, whose 'we'? I thought warlords and CAMEL were the finalists, not hydra. Didnt hydra get banned for fixing matches like you just said they did?
Second, you 'won' AT IX too, and that turned out great for you in the long run, didnt it? |
Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:03:37 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Do you really think continuing on this line is going to gain you ANY support? You of all people are in no place to lecture me on effective PR. Mr Rive wrote:You really can't win this one, no matter how hard you try to spin it. I'm sorry Rive, you seem to have forgotten that we did win this one.
No man, you've lost.
You literally said that Hydra's fixed matches but didn't do it well enough while simultaneously saying wildcat is a liar with his logs and you haven't fixed matches despite his reputation that he's built over many years. If you still think he's trolling, then I for one would love to hear CCPs reaction when they find out their time and resources are being wasted.
You have to admit, it really does look quite bad for Hydra and yes, you've defended as best you can with many long posts I'm afraid I didn't have time to read, but you've had so little to work with. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:08:15 -
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Mr Rive wrote:First off, whose 'we'? I thought warlords and CAMEL were the finalists, not hydra. Make up your mind Rive, are we all the same group or not?
Mr Rive wrote:Didnt hydra get banned for fixing matches like you just said they did? No. HYDRA never got banned from anything for fixing matches.
We got excluded from ATX because we entered HYDRA and Outbreak and CCP ruled them ineligible to compete in that tournament. The rules and CCP's philosophy had changed between ATIX and ATX. That left us on the wrong side of the line without any time to change our course.
Mr Rive wrote:Second, you 'won' AT IX too, and that turned out great for you in the long run, didnt it? It did actually, but it wasn't without it's issues, as I've already explained.
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Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:15:41 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Didnt hydra get banned for fixing matches like you just said they did? No. HYDRA never got banned from anything for fixing matches. We got excluded from ATX because we entered HYDRA and Outbreak and CCP ruled them ineligible to compete in that tournament. The rules and CCP's philosophy had changed between ATIX and ATX. That left us on the wrong side of the line without any time to change our course. You said yourself that Hydra was victim of CCPs rulings. It's pretty clear that they intentionally found a way to exclude Hydra precisely because of the final the year before that Hydra ruined by badly staging the fight. You admitted as much yourself.
That was the warning. The, "hey, yeah, don't ever do that again moment". I'm not sure why you haven't realised that and done it again this year. Maybe CCP have to explicitly tell the Hydra teams in clear language, like the rules. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:19:26 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:You really can't win this one, no matter how hard you try to spin it. I'm sorry Rive, you seem to have forgotten that we did win this one. No man, you've lost. Citation?
Captain Thunk wrote:You literally said that Hydra's fixed matches but didn't do it well enough while simultaneously saying wildcat is a liar with his logs and you haven't fixed matches despite his reputation that he's built over many years. No.
I said we fixed matches when it was legal to do so.
I said we stopped fixing matches when it ceased to be legal to do so. CCP made it pretty clear on this point so we weren't really left in any doubt.
I haven't said Wildcat is a liar at all. I've made it quite clear that I don't know the truth of the matter. Just reading his posts, I feel he was just throwing a hissy fit. Even if it turns out to be all lies, I think he has extenuating circumstances that would prevent me from calling him a plain liar.
Captain Thunk wrote:If you still think he's trolling, then I for one would love to hear CCPs reaction when they find out their time and resources are being wasted. I don't think he's trolling now, because I've had time to investigate it all further. But that was certainly my first instinct having read his post. Now I think he's just upset and behaving irrationally.
But yeah, I doubt CCP is going to be happy with this whole situation no matter how their investigation ends.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:24:40 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:You have to admit, it really does look quite bad for Hydra No. If CCP comes back with a verdict against us, then it might look bad for HYDRA. In the meantime, this is just a bunch of people shooting the **** about AT drama.
Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Mr Rive wrote:Didnt hydra get banned for fixing matches like you just said they did? No. HYDRA never got banned from anything for fixing matches. We got excluded from ATX because we entered HYDRA and Outbreak and CCP ruled them ineligible to compete in that tournament. The rules and CCP's philosophy had changed between ATIX and ATX. That left us on the wrong side of the line without any time to change our course. You said yourself that Hydra was victim of CCPs rulings. It's pretty clear that they intentionally found a way to exclude Hydra precisely because of the final the year before that Hydra ruined by badly staging the fight. You admitted as much yourself. I think they changed the rules and their philosophy for that reason.
I think they excluded one of my teams and your Waffle bros due to that rule change.
I think they excluded my other team (and not your PL bros) as vengeance for the badly staged final in ATIX.
I made that all pretty clear in my previous post that you are referencing.
Captain Thunk wrote:That was the warning. The, "hey, yeah, don't ever do that again moment". I'm not sure why you haven't realised that and done it again this year. Maybe CCP have to explicitly tell the Hydra teams in clear language, like the rules. I'm sorry but that is all predicated on the idea that we actually broke the rules this year. Which is something you've confirmed is unknown to both of us.
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Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:26:20 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Captain Thunk wrote:No man, you've lost. Citation?
Scroll up, it's the bit where you basically say "We f****d up fixing matches, sorry you guys noticed, it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the rules getting in the way - CCP need to fix that" |
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Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:32:38 -
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Bad Bobby wrote: I'm sorry but that is all predicated on the idea that we actually broke the rules this year. Which is something you've confirmed is unknown to both of us.
Listening to your sketchy defence and DHB Wildcats post, I can't help but feel it's looking like this did all happen.
Basically you're down to saying that Wildcat must have had a mental breakdown because that's literally the only thing that can plausibly explain the events of the last week. That's a desperate argument.
I would be extremely surprised if other AT members from one of Hydra's heads haven't seen whats coming and confessed what they know to save themselves. They all know it's only going to take a few out of a pool of what 30? 40? and they aren't going to want to be the ones that end up carrying the can. Truth always outs as you've been eloquently demonstrating during the course of this thread.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:33:45 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Captain Thunk wrote:No man, you've lost. Citation? Scroll up, it's the bit where you basically say "We f****d up fixing matches, sorry you guys noticed, it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the rules getting in the way - CCP need to fix that" I didn't say that, basically or otherwise.
I think I've been pretty clear on this, so if you aren't understanding me after all this posting then there isn't much more I can do for you.
Either way, I don't see how the statements of a HYDRA member that wasn't involved in this AT in any capacity other than as a spectator would make any difference to Warlords or Camel winning or losing the AT.
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Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:35:22 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:
Either way, I don't see how the statements of a HYDRA member that wasn't involved in this AT in any capacity other than as a spectator would make any difference to Warlords or Camel winning or losing the AT.
So you're now backpeddling and saying you have no clue as you're not involved in any capacity. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:38:06 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote: I'm sorry but that is all predicated on the idea that we actually broke the rules this year. Which is something you've confirmed is unknown to both of us.
Listening to your sketchy defence and DHB Wildcats post, I can't help but feel it's looking like this did all happen. Basically you're down to saying that Wildcat must have had a mental breakdown because that's literally the only thing that can plausibly explain the events of the last week. That's a desperate argument. I would be extremely surprised if other AT members from one of Hydra's heads haven't seen whats coming and confessed what they know to save themselves. They all know it's only going to take a few out of a pool of what 30? 40? and they aren't going to want to be the ones that end up carrying the can. Truth always outs as you've been eloquently demonstrating during the course of this thread. No.
Throughout this discussion you have made every effort to misinterpret and distort my statements to suit your own agenda.
All I have to do is keep posting the truth and being a comparatively reasonable participant in this debate to win it. You're doing all my work for me. |
Hoodie Mafia
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
49
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:42:05 -
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Wow 12 pages, keep on going gents
I wonder how many extra pages we can make it to once the bans are official |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:42:49 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Either way, I don't see how the statements of a HYDRA member that wasn't involved in this AT in any capacity other than as a spectator would make any difference to Warlords or Camel winning or losing the AT.
So you're now backpeddling and saying you have no clue as you're not involved in any capacity. No, I've been saying that since page 4 of this thread.
That's not backpeddling, that's simply stating the simple truth over and over again.
The reason why I'm bringing my lack of relevance up, is that you seemed to think that things that I said somehow constituted an AT loss for Camel and Warlords. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:48:49 -
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Hoodie Mafia wrote:Wow 12 pages, keep on going gents
I wonder how many extra pages we can make it to once the bans are official I think there will be far more drama if the reverse occurs. |
Hoodie Mafia
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.09.22 11:54:45 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Hoodie Mafia wrote:Wow 12 pages, keep on going gents
I wonder how many extra pages we can make it to once the bans are official I think there will be far more drama if the reverse occurs.
Agreed, as it marks the beginning of the end if that ends up happening |
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
113
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Posted - 2015.09.22 12:09:36 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Captain Thunk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote: I'm sorry but that is all predicated on the idea that we actually broke the rules this year. Which is something you've confirmed is unknown to both of us.
Listening to your sketchy defence and DHB Wildcats post, I can't help but feel it's looking like this did all happen. Basically you're down to saying that Wildcat must have had a mental breakdown because that's literally the only thing that can plausibly explain the events of the last week. That's a desperate argument. I would be extremely surprised if other AT members from one of Hydra's heads haven't seen whats coming and confessed what they know to save themselves. They all know it's only going to take a few out of a pool of what 30? 40? and they aren't going to want to be the ones that end up carrying the can. Truth always outs as you've been eloquently demonstrating during the course of this thread. No. Throughout this discussion you have made every effort to misinterpret and distort my statements to suit your own agenda. All I have to do is keep posting the truth and being a comparatively reasonable participant in this debate to win it. You're doing all my work for me.
This isnt a debate. This is the question of whether hydra cheated this year. Debates dont have yes or no answers. There's just a best and a worse way of doing somehting.
Did hydra cheat? Yes? No?
Everything that you have said so far pushes the perception to 'yes'. Just because you don't call it cheating, doesnt mean it isnt. It just means you're arguing semantics, which are pointless to the question. |
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
113
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Posted - 2015.09.22 12:11:29 -
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Hoodie Mafia wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Hoodie Mafia wrote:Wow 12 pages, keep on going gents
I wonder how many extra pages we can make it to once the bans are official I think there will be far more drama if the reverse occurs. Agreed, as it marks the beginning of the end if that ends up happening
Not really, the only way we end up with this being the end is if CCP decide not to change the rules for next year, and make sure they incorporate feedback to make that happen.
The question of whether there is proof of hydra's cheating is really not that important. I just enjoy seeing bad bobby **** the pooch and take pictures. |
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 12:49:46 -
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Mr Rive wrote:This isnt a debate. It looks like one, at least when it's not a pissing contest.
Mr Rive wrote:This is the question of whether hydra cheated this year. It's a lot more than that. At least from my perspective. I don't even know why we would even concern ourselves with that question, since CCP's verdict is what matters.
Mr Rive wrote:Debates dont have yes or no answers. Debates don't generally have answers, be they yes, no or otherwise.
Mr Rive wrote:Did hydra cheat? Yes? No?
Everything that you have said so far pushes the perception to 'yes'. It wasn't possible for me to push your perception to "yes" because that's where it started.
You can't speak for the perceptions of others, because you don't know or understand them. |
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.22 17:23:57 -
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Bad Bobby wrote: So there is no history of cheating in HYDRA. There is however a history of playing to the limit of the rules, in order to win, and occasionally being the victim of unfortunate CCP decisions. A history that we share with PL, our chief detractor.
It's funny, its almost convenient that you forgot you posted that several pages back, almost as if to shift the blame towards us.
Bad Bobby wrote:It isn't me that keeps bringing up the link between PL and Waffles.
I personally don't think that the PL/Waffles link (or the link with Horde) is in any way relevant.
oh wait never mind, it seems your tactic backfired.
Bad Bobby wrote: If the final of ATIX had gone the way we had planned, which it absolutely did not, none of this would have happened. Unfortunately we were nowhere near as good at fixing AT matches as we thought we were and the whole thing turned in to the most embarrassing farce.
We certainly ****** up in ATIX, but to say it will never happen again is not within my power.
"we fixed matches, ccp got pissed and banned us for doing something so incomprehensively wrong in a competative sport, putting it in to the rules would be stupid as everyone knows its wrong. We hoped we had gotten better at it, but clearly CCP is pissed again because we're doing the same thing this year, it just depends to what extent"
Bad Bobby wrote:
You and I appear to disagree as to whether there is evidence of an offense being committed under the current AT ruleset.
Well ain't that a doozey, you admit to ******* up in atIX, you say you we'rent technically breaking any rules, but you and I both know what you did was wrong. As you say 'bad PR', I rather think you just annoyed the hell out of CCP, and no amount of PR would have fixed it. You dont know how their brains work, it's probably why they keep trying to recruit certain PL members, and not certain HYDRA members~
So what's happened is, in your own words, this is either a troll, or you tried to do exactly the same thing as you did in ATIX and it backfired again, because you weren't as good at it as you thought.
You are not very good at petty politics. You might be good at scamming noobs, but youre entering a whole different ball game here and all you are doing is making CCP more mad with your inane evasions and backpedalling.
Just go back to scamming noobs out of titans m8. You're making it worse. |
Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
173
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:56:14 -
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As you said Bad Bobby, short of DHB Wildcat having somekind of meltdown, his allegations are certainly true.
So it's a question of probability. Hydra, very probably cheated and fixed matches, just like it has a history of doing.
There just aren't many alternatives that fit the situation. You tried the trolling angle but have conceded that this hasn't all been a troll. There isn't much left, it boils down to either Insanity on Wildcats part or it's true. Wildcat is a veteran player and I've never heard anyone call him insane.
Judging by how you've moved your stance in the last few days I think you're beginning to realise where exactly this is all going.
So, with that in mind, how do you think the 30-40 boys on the teams are holding out? Do you think they're sticking to the story, praying plausible deniability will carry them through? Do you think any of them have folded under the pressure as they realise the situation is looking bleak and it's time to save themselves? Do you think the onus is on them to go down with the ship because honoure, even though many pilots weren't part of the conspiracy and only found out in the final stages like Wildcat? Do you think future Hydra teams are going to put special emphasis on the ability to keep quiet over talented flying? Hypothetically, if some Hydra pilots have spoken freely with CCP adding to the weight of evidence, would you despise their lack of loyalty, would you feel betrayed? Do you have any opinions on why it is it's only Hydra that runs into trouble? PL has won the AT numerous times yet I do not recall any scandal associated with any of the wins. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 23:10:07 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:As you said Bad Bobby, short of DHB Wildcat having somekind of meltdown, his allegations are certainly true. I don't think I said that. My opinion right now is that his allegations of match fixing are false and that CCP has sufficient proof to confirm that.
Captain Thunk wrote:So it's a question of probability. Hydra, very probably cheated and fixed matches, just like it has a history of doing. It's not a question of probability, because there is no random number god at play here. There are facts, there is evidence and there is CCP's decision on how to proceed. The facts and evidence don't support your claims of match fixing and the only unknown is CCP.
Captain Thunk wrote:There just aren't many alternatives that fit the situation. Well, there is the obvious one, that DHB got angry, posted stuff, got abuse back, got even angrier and petitioned.
That's certainly a lot more plausible than your alternative, in my opinion.
Captain Thunk wrote:Judging by how you've moved your stance in the last few days I think you're beginning to realise where exactly this is all going. I can't claim to know where we will be in a week or so. I don't have your omniscience.
But that's not really my role in all this, my chief concern is that we are in the best possible position we can achieve for the next AT and the AT after that.
Captain Thunk wrote:So, with that in mind, how do you think the 30-40 boys on the teams are holding out? I think they're fine, particularly since they know a lot more about this whole situation than you do.
The rest of your post is predicated on what I believe to be your hubris. So I don't think I really need to answer it.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.22 23:14:48 -
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Overall I think I've achieved what I set out to in this thread and in the absence of a CCP verdict, I can declare victory and take my rest for now.
I'd like to thank the PL posters for being so co-operative. I didn't expect to get such an easy ride. |
Mr Rive
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:15:49 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Overall I think I've achieved what I set out to in this thread and in the absence of a CCP verdict, I can declare victory and take my rest for now.
I'd like to thank the PL posters for being so co-operative. I didn't expect to get such an easy ride.
hahaha okay. Have fun. You're a muppet, but thanks for all the screenshots. |
Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:30:17 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Overall I think I've achieved what I set out to in this thread and in the absence of a CCP verdict, I can declare victory and take my rest for now.
I'd like to thank the PL posters for being so co-operative. I didn't expect to get such an easy ride.
I was wondering when Hydra was going to order you to stop posting.
Your defence has led to more questions and is flimsy at best, because it rests entirely on DHB Wildcat having a mental breakdown, which according to people who know him doesn't sound like him at all. Not only that, it has to manifest itself in this convoluted bizarre situation where he destroys himself while trying to destroy others. It's desperate and by making you constantly have to repeat it, I think you're realising how incredibly flimsy this defence actually is which is why you want to make your exit. In all honesty, I don't blame you. It seems the rest of Hydra had the foresight to see where this would go and chose not to post at all.
The rest of the Hydra defence is trying to stare CCP down with the tagline "YOU CAN'T PROVE S**T!", good luck with that.
Either way, a sincere thanks to DHB Wildcat, his brave actions will lead to the rules changes the AT badly needs. It's a shame that it wasn't till the end, when he finally won Gold, that he realised it means nothing if you don't feel you actually won it.
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Ion Udan
Escape Velocity
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Posted - 2015.09.23 00:52:36 -
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I'm thoroughly enjoying reading this thread but I have a burning question.
Bad Bobby, all your references to DHB and his posts relate to him being "angry" and off he goes telling lies.
You said "Well, there is the obvious one, that DHB got angry, posted stuff, got abuse back, got even angrier and petitioned."
If Hydra/Warlords/Camel all operated within this years AT as legitimate teams, what did DHB have to be angry at? His team won, he got ships, prizes and ISK.
I don't know many people who get angry at nothing, or even, angry at winning. I do know alot of people who get angry at being cheated and deceived. Especially by people they thought were trustworthy and having that broken.
Reading through this thread even you admit that HYDRA/Warlords/Camel operate right at the very edge of the rules, and bending them almost to the point of breaking to achieve their end result. Winning and ISK. And you admit yourself this will continue to occur until the rules are written in a way that no one can spin them in a fashion that could be misinterpreted.
I'll be very interested to see how this plays out.
So, glorious QEX brother steals potatoes from hisec.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:46:55 -
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Captain Thunk wrote:I was wondering when Hydra was going to order you to stop posting. I don't think you understand HYDRA leadership.
There are certainly some posts on this subject that I could have done without, but not in this thread. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.23 04:55:07 -
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Ion Udan wrote:what did DHB have to be angry at? I'm not going to repeat the mud slinging that started this debacle, if you want the answer to your question there are two locked threads where you will get a 1st person perspective on it, regrettable though they may be.
Ion Udan wrote:And you admit yourself this will continue to occur until the rules are written in a way that no one can spin them in a fashion that could be misinterpreted. No, actually. My recommendation wasn't that the rules get turned in to something that specifically forbids every possible transgression, but that the rules and structure are altered so that it isn't needed. If nobody has a illegitimate incentive to throw a match, then the very question of match throwing can be put to bed and CCP will not have to worry about these drama bombs.
Ion Udan wrote:I'll be very interested to see how this plays out. Me too. I can't think of anything relevant that hasn't been covered now, so all that remains is to wait for the CCP verdict. Then I'm sure the drama will continue.
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