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Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 02:09:53 -
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Is it still possible to lock these ships? Is there any possibility to avoid both Bubbles and gates 100% of the time?
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And the same for the Ares, but 1.16s align || 45.5 sig 1.38s align || 31.1 sig ---------------------------------------------------------- |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
646
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Posted - 2015.09.16 03:01:42 -
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Alexis Goldberg wrote:Is it still possible to lock these ships? Is there any possibility to avoid both Bubbles and gates 100% of the time?
[Daredevil] (0,928s align, 45,5 sig )
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Mid-grade Nomad Alpha Mid-grade Nomad Beta Mid-grade Nomad Gamma Mid-grade Nomad Delta Mid-grade Nomad Epsilon Mid-grade Nomad Omega
Improved X-Instinct
[Daredevil] ( 1,11s align || 31,1 sig )
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Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Mid-grade Nomad Alpha Mid-grade Nomad Beta Mid-grade Nomad Gamma Mid-grade Nomad Delta Mid-grade Nomad Epsilon Mid-grade Nomad Omega
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And the same for the Ares, but 1.16s align || 45.5 sig 1.38s align || 31.1 sig ----------------------------------------------------------
Would think that another frigate would have faster align time than Daredevil?
You can still be smartbombed - transporting PLEX in an untanked ship is a bad idea. Don't do it.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2015.09.16 03:34:59 -
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That's a nice frigate you have there it'd be a shame if something happened to it...
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2015.09.16 04:15:26 -
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Ares, Mail Truck Highs: who cares. A cloak if you like. Mids: EM and Thermal passive hardeners, Medium Shield Extender. Lows: 3x Inertial Stabilisers, 1x Expanded Cargohold (or a Damage Control if you like). Rigs: 2x Cargo Optimisation.
>150m3 of cargo, <2s align, bubble immune, should survive a single smartbombing battleship.
Plan your route, use pings on gates in known smartbombing systems.
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Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 10:28:51 -
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Does someone know exactly how server ticks work and how <1s align time is handled?
And does sig radius affect Smartbomb damage? |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.09.16 13:58:12 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Ares, Mail Truck Highs: who cares. A cloak if you like. Mids: EM and Thermal passive hardeners, Medium Shield Extender. Lows: 3x Inertial Stabilisers, 1x Expanded Cargohold (or a Damage Control if you like). Rigs: 2x Cargo Optimisation.
>150m3 of cargo, <2s align, bubble immune, should survive a single smartbombing battleship.
Plan your route, use pings on gates in known smartbombing systems.
No. Insta-lockers can still catch it.
Nothing is 100% safe. |
Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 15:26:29 -
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How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.09.16 16:58:43 -
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Alexis Goldberg wrote:How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius?
If the server ticks are in their favor? One second. |
Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 17:27:32 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Alexis Goldberg wrote:How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second.
But you warp off in the same tick |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:20:50 -
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Alexis Goldberg wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Alexis Goldberg wrote:How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second. But you warp off in the same tick
No, even if the align time is below 1 second, it will still be 1 second; because that is how the server calculates time. |
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Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:32:01 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Alexis Goldberg wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Alexis Goldberg wrote:How fast could some instalocker lock 32m sig radius? If the server ticks are in their favor? One second. But you warp off in the same tick No, even if the align time is below 1 second, it will still be 1 second; because that is how the server calculates time.
Technically afaik it still determines what process came first |
Alexis Goldberg
Swiggerdly
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:48:46 -
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I wonder if Warp Core Stabs are reasonable, since most gatecamps only have disruptors, but no scram.
2-3x WCS makes one impossible to hold at place |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:13:06 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:No. Insta-lockers can still catch it.
Nothing is 100% safe.
Multi ReSeBo'd Instalockers have tried, many, many times to catch that fit and haven't succeeded yet. A couple of smatbombing battleships, on the other hand, will utterly wreck your day.
https://www.themittani.com/features/understanding-eve-online-server-tick
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Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
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Posted - 2015.09.17 11:13:45 -
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Instalockers can't catch this at gates because it takes 1 server tick for the computers to notice you decloaked, and so by the time they start locking you're already in warp. |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
759
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Posted - 2015.09.17 15:10:44 -
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All I'm saying is it is technically feasible to be caught. It just depends on which process the server picks up first in that tick. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2015.09.17 20:10:56 -
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EvE is always under time dilation. Just the magnitude changes when they have too much going on.
What it means for us, is the game appears to be doing things instantly, but it never truly does. It's always in order and sometimes that means delayed.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:24:45 -
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Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock? |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:27:53 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock?
No, people with better service providers have the advantage. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:31:35 -
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Both are factors.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.18 15:45:39 -
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Alexis Goldberg wrote:I wonder if Warp Core Stabs are reasonable, since most gatecamps only have disruptors, but no scram.
2-3x WCS makes one impossible to hold at place
dunno where you get that idea from, my keres for gatecamping was always fitted with 3 scams and 1 warp disruptor
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Erik Kalkoken
VOLTAGE REGULATORS The Bloc
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Posted - 2015.09.19 11:39:31 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Alexis Goldberg wrote:I wonder if Warp Core Stabs are reasonable, since most gatecamps only have disruptors, but no scram.
2-3x WCS makes one impossible to hold at place dunno where you get that idea from, my keres for gatecamping was always fitted with 3 scams and 1 warp disruptor
Or you will be alpha'd by a bunch of Thrashers or Svipuls. Then the number of WCS does not matter. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.19 11:52:47 -
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A ceptor with reasonable tank and sub 2s align time is enough to travel safely everywhere with some caution (pick time, pings, etc.). The next best thing you can make is reducing travel distance going by wormholes / Thera, so fit probes and cloak in high slots.
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.20 09:36:55 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:RavenPaine wrote:Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock? No, people with better service providers have the advantage.
Rubbish.
What matters is LATENCY or PING, not the 'speed' of your connection beyond a certain minimum requirement (and EVE has pretty modest bandwidth requirements).
Ping is mostly affected by your physical distance from the TQ servers along with how many intermediate hops you have to make.
So yes, a player in London has a far better success rate than a player in Sydney when it comes to instalocking. I know, I live in Australia and I simply cannot reliably instalock targets, regardless how many SeBos and targeting speed rigs I try and fit. My 400ms ping rate screws me over.
TiDi will affect all players, however, once again, close physical proximity to the servers will still give you an advantage.
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Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2015.09.20 10:04:16 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:RavenPaine wrote:Would it be reasonable to think that: European players have an advantage over the rest of the world when it comes to time dilation/insta lock? No, people with better service providers have the advantage. Rubbish. What matters is LATENCY or PING, not the 'speed' of your connection beyond a certain minimum requirement (and EVE has pretty modest bandwidth requirements). Ping is mostly affected by your physical distance from the TQ servers along with how many intermediate hops you have to make. So yes, a player in London has a far better success rate than a player in Sydney when it comes to instalocking. I know, I live in Australia and I simply cannot reliably instalock targets, regardless how many SeBos and targeting speed rigs I try and fit. My 400ms ping rate screws me over. TiDi will affect all players, however, once again, close physical proximity to the servers will still give you an advantage.
Ah Australia. Eve on hard mode. I've almost never had a 1 v 1 frig fight where the opponent doesn't get the first shot on me. All those close fights I could have won....
You can see this latency in great effect when gatecamping, not only for instalocks but also when people call 'gatefire'. I usually see gateflash a full 1.5-2 seconds after it's been called by the EU/UK dudes. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.20 12:09:16 -
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Dato Koppla wrote: Ah Australia. Eve on hard mode......
A 400ms ping does make for some difficulty.
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Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2015.09.21 07:38:11 -
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Also I'm not sure if it's related to ping, but I very often get the problem where you deactivate a module but it just flashes red and doesn't turn off. You need to move the module to a new slot to fix the graphical issue to turn it off. |
George Gouillot
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2015.09.23 16:03:39 -
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CCP has given you a fast aligning, nullified, cov ops cloaked ship with cruiser EHP for free. Can even carry 30 PLEX. Use it. |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.23 16:33:23 -
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George Gouillot wrote:CCP has given you a fast aligning, nullified, cov ops cloaked ship with cruiser EHP for free. Can even carry 30 PLEX. Use it.
Why would you carry PLEX in a ship? |
George Gouillot
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2015.09.24 05:53:28 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:George Gouillot wrote:CCP has given you a fast aligning, nullified, cov ops cloaked ship with cruiser EHP for free. Can even carry 30 PLEX. Use it. Why would you carry PLEX in a ship?
I don't know. But you can do it. |
Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.09.24 08:18:39 -
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George Gouillot wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:George Gouillot wrote:CCP has given you a fast aligning, nullified, cov ops cloaked ship with cruiser EHP for free. Can even carry 30 PLEX. Use it. Why would you carry PLEX in a ship? I don't know. But you can do it.
I always carry plex in my ships but I always post with an alt for safety reasons! |
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