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Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
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Posted - 2015.09.16 05:11:00 -
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Hello,
Does anybody have something cheap and efficient to fly solo ? Everything I've been fitting recently mostly die. Also any good advice for solo in general is welcome. |
NovaCat13
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2015.09.16 05:39:02 -
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Gonna need to give out more info than that. Solo dreads? Solo T2 Ewar frigates? In Wormholes? HS ganking?
Otherwise all I can really suggest is have fun in T1 frigates. Or check out the Chessur, Eve is Easy, and Mr Hyde Youtube channels. Great place to learn solo and small gang stuff before undocking. |
Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
33
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Posted - 2015.09.16 06:01:52 -
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NovaCat13 wrote:Gonna need to give out more info than that. Solo dreads? Solo T2 Ewar frigates? In Wormholes? HS ganking?
Otherwise all I can really suggest is have fun in T1 frigates. Or check out the Chessur, Eve is Easy, and Mr Hyde Youtube channels. Great place to learn solo and small gang stuff before undocking.
Cheap stuff for low sec / null sec. Mostly cruisers because I'm done with frigates atm. Also cheap for me means less than 50M. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
167
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Posted - 2015.09.16 06:36:40 -
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For Frigates, Comets and Daredevils can pack a hell of a wallop. Slicers are also very nice when flown well. Sentinels can decimate many, many opponents, but it can sometimes be hard to find a fight without getting blobbed.
For Cruisers, perhaps look at the Thorax or Stabber. If you're feeling a little flush, the Vigilant is pretty sweet.
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erg cz
Aligned Fleet CZ-SK
327
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Posted - 2015.09.16 07:22:33 -
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I do not have cruiser PvP experience myself, but it seems to me, that faction versions of eve ships are much better suited to PvP, than to PvE. So maybe you can get Stabber fleet issue and try it out.
But correct answer would be to leave your tiny corp and join some real Provy crew. You seem to fly in Providence and there are some very active PvP corporations.
Surely brave newbies can also give you perfect answers - they currently focus on cruiser doctrine.
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Starbuck05
Warmongering Space Invaders Criminal Intentions.
319
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Posted - 2015.09.16 08:09:43 -
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Any T1 cruiser T2 fitted will cost you less then 50 mil ... proably around 35 .. so again gotta go with the rest , we need more info on what you need .
Just because i am blond does not make me stoooopid !
Warmongering space Invaders PvP corp looking for pilots ( Low Sec )
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Titus Heldane
Sleeper Insanity Wrong Hole.
22
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Posted - 2015.09.16 12:22:26 -
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if you want cheap stuff, dont bother with any faction bullshit. t1 is what you want. learn it. love it. breathe it. the best, most efficient solo pvp ship in the entire game is the tristan. its the best and most versatile t1 frig ever.
but if you dont want frigs, you can just take it up a notch and get an algos. see where im headed? if you want a cheap do-it-all t1 cruiser that will melt face in any situation and always come out on top, you want a vexor. you can hulltank it. you can armor tank it. you can shield tank it. you can active tank it. you can kite, you can brawl, you can neut. depending on how you fit it you can do whatever you want with it and have a lot of fun and get a ton of kills.
depending on your playstyle and preferences i can give you some fits if you want. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1056
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Posted - 2015.09.16 13:46:30 -
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crucifier is fun, can wreck other turret based, more expensive ships - can be a nasty surprise for the enemy :)
little tank in form of dual SAR (or SAR+SAAR), point, prop mod, dual-RTD.. guns/drones -> fun. you should avoid missile ships or webs tho |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
758
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Posted - 2015.09.16 14:01:14 -
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Off the top of my head....Thorax, Caracal, Rupture, and Arbitrator. |
Ovv Topik
Hoplite Brigade Hashashin Cartel
750
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Posted - 2015.09.16 14:14:19 -
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Well getting out there and losing ships as you have been doing is actually the best way to learn. It doesnt take long for your KB to go from neg one month, to about even the next, and positive soon after.
But your KB also confirms that nul can be a challenge to find solo fights. The open space nature of it, and the intel channel culture can be frustrating for solo.
FW low sec on the other hand is an 'all you can eat' solo buffet! Black Rise being the solo mecca of New Eden.
T3D's are the current meta. But you'll still find the most fights in an unscary T1 Frig.
The Rail Cursus you fly would attract lots of Novice plex runners to stay and pew. And your TD Slasher fit is one of the most underrated solo fits in the game. Bait a Small plex in that, and you will kill most turret Desi's and T3'd who fall for your devious trap, simply by orbitting at 500 with a Tracking Script loaded.
Killing faction fit 'ISK Tanked' bling ships in a <1mil T1 Frig is a sweet feeling :)
And good Dscan discipline will let you split up gangs and kill them one at a time.
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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Titus Heldane
Sleeper Insanity Wrong Hole.
23
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Posted - 2015.09.16 15:41:29 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:Black Rise being the solo mecca of New Eden.
LOL |
Damnskippy
Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel
122
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Posted - 2015.09.17 02:35:20 -
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Vexor is pretty fun. Stabber is also pretty versatile and can pull off some fun kills. Thorax is great for latching on to something and melting it ( though you will probably die to your targets friends ).
After insurance, battle cruisers are pretty inexpensive. The HAM drake is good for some cheap thrills. I would even suggest a procurer and watch people trip over themselves to tackle you.
Any t1 ship with t2 fit can solo and get kills. You just have to be a little creative sometimes. |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders
161
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Posted - 2015.09.17 09:16:07 -
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If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.
Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely
Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.
With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.
Yes this meta sucks balls. |
Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
33
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Posted - 2015.09.17 11:04:33 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.
Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely
Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.
With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.
Yes this meta sucks balls.
Welcome to Svipul online I'd say :)
Had some thrill in a dual rep Thorax, allmost killed an Harbinger in front of his friends, burnt my guns like a ****** tough. |
Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
35
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Posted - 2015.09.17 19:43:46 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/49090888/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/49083951/ https://zkillboard.com/kill/49106354/
Not very good yet :/
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Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
880
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Posted - 2015.09.18 02:39:07 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.
Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely
Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.
With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.
Yes this meta sucks balls.
Dual Web electron blaster Moa with XLASB does pretty well. Unless they are implanted AND linked, you can hit the popular 10MN Svipul/Confessor fits well with 500dps. Solid tank as well. It's very susceptible to cap warfare though. |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders
161
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Posted - 2015.09.18 09:25:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Doctor Knuckles wrote:If you wanna go cheap solo cruiser, you have to take into account the current meta (fkn T3Ds everywhere), and proceed to discard the ones that have little to no chance against the most common tactical dessies fits.
Unfortunately, almost every t1 cruiser can be face tanked by T3Ds, if they have a deadpsace repper / booster and drug / links (a lot of them do), some even with non blingy fits (2 masbs, normal dual rep fessor, etc), or they can get out tracked completely
Basically, you need the ability to either fit 2 medium neuts, or 1 neut and still be able to apply full damage and make them run their reps / boost constantly. Any other scenario has too many chances at binge perma tanked. Not fun.
With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.
Yes this meta sucks balls. Dual Web electron blaster Moa with XLASB does pretty well. Unless they are implanted AND linked, you can hit the popular 10MN Svipul/Confessor fits well with 500dps. Solid tank as well. It's very susceptible to cap warfare though.
They don't need implants and links to tank 500 kin-therm dpst (if they rolling with a C-type), one of the 2 is enough to tank it comfortably :\
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Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
35
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Posted - 2015.09.18 11:41:13 -
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Actually I didn't have any real issue with T3D yet.
My main issue is to cross the path of 5+ man gangs, faction cruisers like OPrthrus or Gila, popular SFI etc. that are often teamed together when they could often wreck me 1v1 ^^ |
Tomski Ruslav
Hull Breach. The Brew Crew.
11
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Posted - 2015.09.19 00:18:14 -
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Comet, Hokbill, Vexors, Stabber, Arbitrator, Caracal, Harpy, Ishkur and probably quite a few others i cant remember right now.
Oh, and Nomens and SFI's (both the Stabber fleet issue, and the Scythe fleet issue), and of course the sentinel.
One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Titus Heldane
Sleeper Insanity Wrong Hole.
27
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Posted - 2015.09.19 08:05:02 -
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Triakis Cadelanne wrote:Actually I didn't have any real issue with T3D yet.
My main issue is to cross the path of 5+ man gangs, faction cruisers like OPrthrus or Gila, popular SFI etc. that are often teamed together when they could often wreck me 1v1 ^^
i think your issue is that you dont use dscan properly and pick the wrong fights. the first thing you do before you engage someone is check local to see if he has any friends. you can even check his kb to see if hes a blobber or flies solo. in FW space, keep your dscan on short range and see if there is anyone outside the plex. if more people start coming in, try to get out. its also a lot harder to find solo fights in a cruiser than in a frig or destroyer. |
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Mira Chieve
Star Kingdom of Manticore
6
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Posted - 2015.09.19 11:46:25 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:
With this in mind, the Vexor is pretty much the only non faction t1 cruiser i'd fly solo these days, the others are just too vulnerable to T3Ds.
Yes this meta sucks balls.
He could also try an armor Stabber. Ab, scram, 2x web and 2 small neuts are quite nasty for t3ds
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
657
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Posted - 2015.09.21 05:09:48 -
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Tough not to get caught on gates when solo in a cruiser, the Vexor is the best overall T1 but that is irrelevant against a blob. I would recommend something fast and kitey like a Stabber or an Omen. Burn off quickly and pick off tackle; bail if anything gets close. |
Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
35
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:11:01 -
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So, today I just lost my 15th ship since my last successful PvP engagement.
I don't know what to do tbh. Probably lose more ships till I'm out of money ? |
ValentinaDLM
Khushakor Clan Matari Safari
790
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Posted - 2015.09.21 21:24:35 -
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Win some, lose some. this month I saw a gang of 7 frigs and decided to go at them in my thorax, and, I got 5 of them at least....I think this is the easiest to find sort of solo combat outside of solo frig v frig, is cruiser/t3d versus small gang.
So my advice fit your ship in such a way where you can take on a gang of frigs and win, and look for a frig gang in FW space and get them to fight you. Even if you loose, you are sure to take out some of them at least, and that is much more fun, and you learn much more. |
Reah Darknorth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.09.23 03:20:32 -
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Your fittings are not too bad, although they definitely are not excellent. Some of them are pretty bad, for example your Confessor is horrible.
But that said, it is less about just having a good fitting and more about overall strategy. It's about the art of war (or the war of art). You can PvP with a rookie ship and be successful. Does that mean Reapers are good for PvP? Not really, it just means that knowledge is power.
What I'm saying is, don't rely on your fitting. Rely on your knowledge of the game and your piloting skill. When your knowledge of the game increases your piloting skill increases, and that is when your fittings will become "optimized" . |
George Gouillot
Black Fox Marauders
86
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Posted - 2015.09.23 16:00:21 -
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Titus Heldane wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:Black Rise being the solo mecca of New Eden.
LOL
What's so funny, I find enough solo players we can blob every day. |
Damnskippy
Mad Bombers Hashashin Cartel
127
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Posted - 2015.09.24 02:55:37 -
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Triakis Cadelanne wrote:So, today I just lost my 15th ship since my last successful PvP engagement.
I don't know what to do tbh. Probably lose more ships till I'm out of money ?
Buy some comets and tristans. Comets you can fit for both max gank or scram kiting. Tristans you can fit for nueting, brawling or kiting. With these you get to practice the fundamentals of the 3 main types of fighting while going easy on your wallet. Practice using the dscan before and while you are fighting. Soon you will get a feel of which fights to take and when it's time to try and leave a fight. |
Fourteen Maken
Omega Industry Inc. The Ditanian Alliance
199
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Posted - 2015.09.26 06:12:13 -
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Triakis Cadelanne wrote:So, today I just lost my 15th ship since my last successful PvP engagement.
I don't know what to do tbh. Probably lose more ships till I'm out of money ?
Here's a surprise fit i was thinking of trying:
[MiniMoa, Moa fit]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x3
small guns for better tracking against frigs/dessies, and free's up fitting space for XLASB and oversized AB.
It's still does 373dps, and 420 over heated so not too bad dps with good tracking, range control, and tank. The XLASB with standard blue pill gives nice 39.1k ehp before reload which is pretty sweet for a cruiser. could maybe drop the Web, or the invul for a small cap booster so it's less vulnerable to neuts. with ab overheated it goes 1584m/s so you have a better chance of being able to burn back to gate, or tackling ships that won't expect you to move so fast. Fittings cost 10mil and ship hull is 11.3mil so it won't be too expensive to lose after t1 insurance
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Chessur
Mining Industry Exile Foundation Warlords of the Deep
606
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Posted - 2015.09.26 16:17:21 -
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Triakis Cadelanne wrote:Hello,
Does anybody have something cheap and efficient to fly solo ? Everything I've been fitting recently mostly die. Also any good advice for solo in general is welcome.
Svipul Scythe Fleet Slicer Nomen Vexor
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Triakis Cadelanne
La Fine Equipe
37
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Posted - 2015.09.27 21:35:14 -
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Reah Darknorth wrote:Your fittings are not too bad, although they definitely are not excellent. Some of them are pretty bad, for example your Confessor is horrible.
But that said, it is less about just having a good fitting and more about overall strategy. It's about the art of war (or the war of art). You can PvP with a rookie ship and be successful. Does that mean Reapers are good for PvP? Not really, it just means that knowledge is power.
What I'm saying is, don't rely on your fitting. Rely on your knowledge of the game and your piloting skill. When your knowledge of the game increases your piloting skill increases, and that is when your fittings will become "optimized" .
I guess it's right, I also think I'm really bad at picking my fights. It's like I'm welping everything. |
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