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Cardcaptor Sakura
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 02:52:41 -
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So I was looking over rigs and they say small, medium, large... Ships indicate their rig size as small, medium, and large ...
Uh..I can't put a large rig on a ship that says medium sized rigs, even if the points of the rig say 75 or whatever, even if my ship rig points are like 300-400?... I thought you just had to consider addin up the points of the rigs to equal 400 or whatever amount the maximum is.
I know it does seem obvious but, I thought you could fit any rig to any ship as long as you had points. |
Revenant Kane
The Revenant Crew
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Posted - 2015.09.19 02:57:49 -
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Cardcaptor Sakura wrote:So I was looking over rigs and they say small, medium, large... Ships indicate their rig size as small, medium, and large ...
Uh..I can't put a large rig on a ship that says medium sized rigs, even if the points of the rig say 75 or whatever, even if my ship rig points are like 300-400?... I thought you just had to consider addin up the points of the rigs to equal 400 or whatever amount the maximum is.
I know it does seem obvious but, I thought you could fit any rig to any ship as long as you had points.
Nope...
In the ships information panel under the fitting TAB it actually states what type of rigs you can fit. In this case... Medium on cruiser, battlecruiser, assault cruisers and T3 Cruisers. |
Cardcaptor Sakura
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 03:00:54 -
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Revenant Kane wrote:Cardcaptor Sakura wrote:So I was looking over rigs and they say small, medium, large... Ships indicate their rig size as small, medium, and large ...
Uh..I can't put a large rig on a ship that says medium sized rigs, even if the points of the rig say 75 or whatever, even if my ship rig points are like 300-400?... I thought you just had to consider addin up the points of the rigs to equal 400 or whatever amount the maximum is.
I know it does seem obvious but, I thought you could fit any rig to any ship as long as you had points. Nope... In the ships information panel under the fitting TAB it actually states what type of rigs you can fit. In this case... Medium on cruiser, battlecruiser, assault cruisers and T3 Cruisers.
Ok |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2015.09.19 11:43:50 -
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Something else to know:
The skill requirements on them are an artefact of how the penalties work. The actual 'have this skill to fit them' was removed a while ago. So you can fit them with no skills, as long as you're willing to take the full penalty (when there is one)
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Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.09.19 12:08:25 -
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Yeah, it's a constraint that they have for gameplay and balance reasons. Small goes on frigates and destroyers, medium on cruisers and battlecruisers (also industrial ships), large on battleships. |
Necro Huren
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.19 12:31:47 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Yeah, it's a constraint that they have for gameplay and balance reasons. Small goes on frigates and destroyers, medium on cruisers and battlecruisers (also industrial ships), large on battleships. Battlecruisers don't get L weapons? I thought they were faster, lightly armored Battleships with Battleship-class weapons. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.09.19 12:58:00 -
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They're battlecruisers. CCP only added a BC for each race that can mount large (battleship) weapons somewhat recently; the rest of the battlecruisers in each race's lineup can only use cruiser weapons. It's like frigates and destroyers: a destroyer is a frigate-like ship that can install 7 frigate guns instead of just 2-3. Battlecruisers can install 7-8 (cruiser) weapons, cruisers are limited to 2-5.
Ships are also limited by powergrid and CPU, not just by the number of weapon slots. Typically in order to install large weapons, or a lot of weapons, you won't have any power left for the armor and the shields. The game does not have a ship that can do everything (solopwnmobile), you always have a glaring vulnerability and thus are encouraged to bring friends to support you. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.09.19 13:03:00 -
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there used to be one sized rig for all ships. Several years ago CCP made that rig the large rig and then made small and medium rigs with less materials needed for building them. This was mostly because back then rigs were far more expensive than your ship and everything fit on it combined if you were flying a small ship so many small and medium ships just went without rigs.
So to make things fair CCP changed it up so that rigs would wind up in a price range appropriate to the hull cost.
a few years after that change they made capital sized rigs which required more materials than the large than the large.
I think this bit of history should help you understand why it is the way that it is. Worth noting is that I do not believe that there are any rigs in game that exist at one size and not another. So if the rig you are looking at is in the wrong size for your ship you should be able to find or make the proper one. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.21 04:45:22 -
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Note there are the occasional oddities. The Orca for example is a capital ship that uses large rigs not capital rigs. There may be others that I am unaware of.
Generally though rig size must match ship size. |
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