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HideYourKids HideYourWiFi
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 06:44:19 -
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how long would it take to build standings from scratch ? just looking for rough est in hours for how long it take to build 5 7 and or 10 standing with the big factions. |
Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
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Posted - 2015.09.19 07:57:19 -
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The faction standing grind is now pointless unless you want that tax removed (Even then just train the skills). If you insist though, full rack of career agents coupled with SoE arc and connections to 4 will skyrocket you to lvl 3 missions for a FACTION. That's about 10 hours. Then you may think about your distribution l3 grinding plan, each will net you about 0.03 (Will start at about 0.04 but will get to 0.02 when you'll get close to 5.0, diminishing returns) corporation boost every 5-8 minutes and you'll get a storyline every 1.5-2 hours. All l3 distribution missions may be done in "agile" t1 industrials. Fit enough expanders to get to 6400m3, rest goes for agility enhancing (Inertia stabilizers, not nano structures, your sig is irrelevant since your corpse worth a fraction of nothing) and that extra dough from SoE should probably go to warp speed rigs. That way, you may hit 5.0 unmodified within decade. If you want to be a goodie-two-shoes about it, choose between amarr/caldari side, then grind SoE. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.19 09:09:19 -
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First need to train up Social and Connections skills, then work the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan' (link in my forum signature below). Doing that will cut out a lot of regular mission grinding to get a Storyline mission offer.
Nobody can say exactly how long it will take to complete due to numerous reasons such as, amount of time invested per play session, character's skill level, type of equipment used, piloting tactics, etc.
I will say gaining +5.00 standing can be done very quickly and easily.
Also contrary to popular belief, having high Faction standings still has some benefits. Along with reducing Market Broker fees, you also have access to almost all Agents in all Corporations within that specific Faction. Especially good if you need / like to use Locator Agents. Note that access to R&D Agents requires both Corporation and Faction standing.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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HideYourKids HideYourWiFi
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 14:41:54 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:First need to train up Social and Connections skills, then work the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan' (link in my forum signature below). Doing that will cut out a lot of regular mission grinding to get a Storyline mission offer.
Nobody can say exactly how long it will take to complete due to numerous reasons such as, amount of time invested per play session, character's skill level, type of equipment used, piloting tactics, etc.
I will say gaining +5.00 standing can be done very quickly and easily.
Also contrary to popular belief, having high Faction standings still has some benefits. Along with reducing Market Broker fees, you also have access to almost all Agents in all Corporations within that specific Faction. Especially good if you need / like to use Locator Agents. Note that access to R&D Agents requires both Corporation and Faction standing.
DMC
yes my main goal is to trade with an alt but i believe connection skills wont add towards broker fees. to get to 5.0 standing can be done very quickly what do consider quickly few days, weeks ? |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.09.19 15:59:31 -
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HideYourKids HideYourWiFi wrote:yes my main goal is to trade with an alt but i believe connection skills wont add towards broker fees. to get to 5.0 standing can be done very quickly what do consider quickly few days, weeks ? What DMC is not saying is that in a practical sense it is impossible to tell you how long it will take you to do this.
What skills your charcter has trained and to what level will affect this. What ships / fit you fly will affect this. Faction standings are much slower to raise than NPC standings.
Going with NPC standing, not using the plan, no faction missions and starting from from 0 just some general info. There are many factors that influence standing gain per mission so I am going to use averages I have seen across my time in the game.
Level 1 missions 0.0 to 1.0 Average of .01 gain per mission = 100 missions Average of 5 minutes per mission = 9 hours
Level 2 missions 1.0 to 3.0 Average of .015 gain per mission = 134 missions Average 10 minutes per mission = 22.5 hours
Level 3 missions 3.0 to 5.0 Average of .025 gain per mission = 80 missions Average of 15 minutes per mission = 20 hours
Total time 51.5 hours
Remember these are just some basic averages based on my personal experiences so a disclaimer is needed. Your mileage may vary. Blitizing all missions in optimal ships / fits can reduce this by a significant amount. Running mission in less than optimal fits, not blitzing and other factors could add significantly to these times. Character skills or lack of them can reduce or increase these times. Failing a mission, or refusing more than 1 mission every 4 hours may increase these. Other activities in game but outside of your missions may affect these as well. And the list of disclaimers could go on for pages so this is only a partial list.
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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
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Posted - 2015.09.19 20:10:30 -
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If you have level 4 Connection. Complete just one level 1 mission and you'll have access to level 2 missions. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.19 22:05:06 -
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HideYourKids HideYourWiFi wrote: yes my main goal is to trade with an alt but i believe connection skills wont add towards broker fees. to get to 5.0 standing can be done very quickly what do consider quickly few days, weeks ?
Social skill increases the amount of standing gained for completing missions.
Connections skill increases the amount of your current positive standings, otherwise known as modified standings.
All Agents, Corporations and Factions accept modified standings for access. Market Broker Fees and Reprocessing Fees are also based on modified standings.
By working the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan', you can easily gain +5.00 Faction standing within a couple of days, especially if you have trained up Social and Connections skills. I'm not talking about gaining that within a few minutes of game play and as I already stated, other factors will determine just how fast the standings increase will be gained.
What I will say is that the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' has proven itself time and time again to not only be the fastest way to repair negative Faction standings, it's also the fastest way to boost positive Faction standings as well.
Whatever you decide to do, may you have good luck and much success.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.19 22:18:18 -
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oddly enough the fastest I manage to get with any corp to L4 standings was back at the day with Lai Dai when I wanted to see how much u can make with datacores (**** doesn't worth it).
I used fast warp speed rigged hauler and did loads of L3 hauling missions... there are some stations with number of agents you can do number of those at the same time. |
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