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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:01:42 -
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It mentioned it in the title therefore the entire text of the article, specifically: "If you gain a Global Criminal Countdown by committing an illegal action in high security space, it is considered an exploit to attack a target after you warp away from the grid, or warp within the same grid, where you gained that GCC; even if you later return to that grid while still affected by that GCC." can be ignored. LOL. Try harder m9.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:03:49 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:It mentioned it in the title GǪand cited the actual rule being broken: GǣIt is a violation of game policy to avoid retaliation from CONCORDGǥ.
The rest of the ruling is deprecated by CW2.0.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:04:08 -
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Tippia wrote:Of course it does. There was an entire new mechanism in CW2.0 to deal with the old exploit GÇö one that deprecated all old rules concerning it and shifted them into the generic realm of GÇ£don't use bugsGÇ¥. I don;t think you know what deprecated means, but old rules laid out by CCP can't simply be ignored. You should watch what you are advising people to do here.
Tippia wrote:Yes, is is: you are not allowed to evade CONCORD. That's all. That's nto what it says though. It's written in pretty plain English what isn't allowed - returning on the same timer. At no point does it say "but if you lose your ship in between it's fine".
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:05:14 -
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Lol, I'm not going to argue all night. You're wrong. That's simple and fairly obvious.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:05:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:That's nto what it says though. It's written in pretty plain English what isn't allowed Yes is is: GÇ£It is a violation of game policy to avoid retaliation from CONCORDGÇ¥.
Boomeranging was deemed an exploit because ti did just that. Hyperdunking was deemed not an exploit for the simple reason that it doesn't do that.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:07:11 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Mag's wrote:Lucas proven wrong again, so decides to troll. Nothing new there then. Tippia claiming something isn't proof. Tippia ducked out on providing proof. No he didn't actually, you've been slam dunked. You're simply bad at facts and when called on it, resort to trolling.
But it's OK, we enjoy watching you fail.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:07:42 -
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Quote:Absolutely. if you want to wait out your timer then attack again and repeat that until the ship is dead, fine. The reason hyperdunking breaks that is it allows you to attack again in the same timer, which was the problem with boomeranging too. The only difference is this time you lose a cheap ship each time you hit the target, while boomeranging meant you get to keep your ship between ganks. Technechally no. Since GCC no longer exists the rule no longer applies.
In spirit... it also does not apply. As long as a Hyperdunker has a criminal timer, he cannot undock and warp to his target in the first place! (because CONCORD will nuke him) He has to wait out each and every 15 minuter timer.
Also... in the business world... even when we get rid of something that caused us to create legal language explicitly banning/allowig something... we still keep that language in because "just in case" and "laziness." This is why legal documents can be stupid long (half of it probably no longer applies in a contemporary context).
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:09:15 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Lol, I'm not going to argue all night. You're wrong. That's simple and fairly obvious. You should have just replied. NO U
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:10:55 -
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Mag's wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Mag's wrote:Lucas proven wrong again, so decides to troll. Nothing new there then. Tippia claiming something isn't proof. Tippia ducked out on providing proof. No he didn't actually, you've been slam dunked. You're simply bad at facts and when called on it, resort to trolling. But it's OK, we enjoy watching you fail. Incorrect. And LOL it's amusing to be in a "discussion" with Tippia, and I'm supposedly the troll.
Mag's wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Lol, I'm not going to argue all night. You're wrong. That's simple and fairly obvious. You should have just replied. NO U Why? At some point when a discussion ends up involving Tippia it's usually better to just move on. Some of us have more important things to do than desperately cling to internet forum discussions.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:15:14 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:it's amusing to be in a "discussion" with Tippia, and I'm supposedly the troll. You're the one ignoring facts and reality, so yes, that's a pretty fair assessment.
Quote:Some of us have more important things to do than desperately cling to internet forum discussions. Absolutely. There are probably lots more facts and realities you have to irrationally deny elsewhere. Gotta catch'em allGǪ
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:16:17 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Some of us have more important things to do than desperately cling to internet forum discussions. You're also a great supply of irony.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14443
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:16:22 -
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Lucas, you're always the troll. Whether it's Tippia or anyone else you're talking at. Notice how I said at, not to.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:23:58 -
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I'm so good at attracting the usual crowd.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:28:56 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I'm so good at attracting the usual crowd.
So you admit you were just trying to bait out replies? Which, I'd remind you, is reportable as trolling.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
352
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:37:22 -
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I don't hate empire dwellers. Admittedly, I don't generally love them either. I am mostly indifferent. But that holds true for most players in Eve anyway. I would however love to see Dreadnoughts (or Capitals in general) in High Sec. Just imagine the reign of terror we could establish in high sec (once we figure out how war and aggression mechanics work, that is) |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:39:36 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I'm so good at attracting the usual crowd. So you admit you were just trying to bait out replies? Which, I'd remind you, is reportable as trolling. Nope, just commenting on how you people do like to show up. Didn't you have me blocked?
Showing up in a thread to attack the posters and not post on topic is also reportable, so you should watch yourself.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:41:59 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: not post on topic is also reportable. That's funny the thread was not about hyperdunking until you derailed it.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:42:48 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I'm so good at attracting the usual crowd. So you admit you were just trying to bait out replies? Which, I'd remind you, is reportable as trolling. Nope, just commenting on how you people do like to show up. Didn't you have me blocked? Showing up in a thread to attack the posters and not post on topic is also reportable, so you should watch yourself.
I did have you blocked, actually, but my block list seems to be not working. I also see myself watchlisted as red, with the red little box in the corner.
Shrug.
And I am posting on topic, insomuch as you've derailed it, anyway. That's another of your bad habits.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.22 19:47:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucas Kell wrote: not post on topic is also reportable. That's funny the thread was not about hyperdunking until you derailed it. Like time I checked, my character was not called Roberta Gastoni.
OK then guys, get back on topic.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
608
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Posted - 2015.09.22 20:32:07 -
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Neuntausend wrote:I don't hate empire dwellers. Admittedly, I don't generally love them either. I am mostly indifferent. But that holds true for most players in Eve anyway. I would however love to see Dreadnoughts (or Capitals in general) in High Sec. Just imagine the reign of terror we could establish in high sec (once we figure out how war and aggression mechanics work, that is)
Myself as well actually. Although I felt that would need to be standings related and part of pirate vs empire warring. Combine in improved combat mechanics to reduce the blob and could be pretty extreme. I think the advantages to highsec caps will outdo the disadvantages. Main thing is not caps can use gates without needing cyno really renders the lowsec only moot.
If there is one thing eve needs, is more highsec vs lowsec pvp. Not ganking, but true, faction warfare rvb style. Pirates more raiding highsec, and highsec paid to hunt pirates. Pirates rewarded for killing pirate hunters and so on.
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Leeluvv
Polarized
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Posted - 2015.09.22 20:42:56 -
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This book explains why Lucas Kelly is actually incapable of seeing that he is wrong. The fact the human brain actually lies to itself to justify its own beliefs is quite scary. http://www.amazon.com/The-Heretics-Adventures-Enemies-Science/dp/1447208978 |
o0kaboom0o
Bikini Bottom Ultras
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Posted - 2015.09.22 20:56:10 -
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In this time were you wrote one wot after the next one maybe watch some pvp tutorial Videos and be brave and jump into the dam 0.0 space. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6814
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:09:10 -
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Leeluvv wrote:This book explains why Lucas Kelly is actually incapable of seeing that he is wrong. I'm capable of seeing when I'm wrong, I just don't accept an enormous lack of proof from people insanely eager to justify their exploit as evidence that I'm wrong.
What is it with all you online psychiatrists lately? People disagree, it happens. That doesn't suddenly mean one side must be mentally deficient. Grow up.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:11:22 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I'm capable of seeing when I'm wrong We know, that's when you start stating that your opinion is fact
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6814
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:19:58 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:I'm capable of seeing when I'm wrong We know, that's when you start stating that your opinion is fact Incorrect. And I very rarely state that my opinion is fact. My opinion is always my opinion, some of you just seem to think everything anyone has ever said they believe to be a fact. Do I need to start every post with the words "in my opinion..." or shall we just do the usual thing and just assume by default that what anyone posts is opinion unless backed by verifiable evidence?
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:21:30 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:OK then guys, get back on topic.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6814
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:26:58 -
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Wardecs should just be binned.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:29:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Wardecs should just be binned. I hope you don't mean in an arena.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6814
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:33:42 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Wardecs should just be binned. I hope you don't mean in an arena. Nope, just binned.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
608
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Posted - 2015.09.22 21:56:13 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Wardecs should just be binned.
Not going to go that far, but wardecs do have a theoretical purpose. It just needs a good evaluation on how can they be made more of a part of play instead of a nonconcentual means to pvp. But how does one give a "kill right" on a corp for purposes of business competition? I really think empire standings are under utilized....
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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