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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.24 23:01:53 -
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Maybe some of you will know what I am talking about, a lot will perhaps not.
Regardless, whenever I pvp, my heart starts racing so much that I simply... Freeze... I am unable to focus on anything and I perform so many mistakes. As you can see by my killboard it is pretty obvious
However, anyone who have had this, how did you learn to ignore it? I am wondering because I am very much interested in trying out pvp, but this sort of gets in the way.
-Celthric |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
906
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Posted - 2015.09.25 00:01:38 -
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Just keep doing it until it stops pounding. Worked for me heck I was brawling a confessor in a svipul and I had most of my mind looking at local if it would spike instead of the actual fight itself because I know I would win.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.09.25 00:19:41 -
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There was a thread recently about this.
I still get them. It never completely goes away but it does subside to the point you can at least operate eventually. Basically just keep practicing until it becomes second nature.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Bobb Bobbington
The Cult of the Rare Pepes
50
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Posted - 2015.09.25 00:54:07 -
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I only get it if I'm risking a particularly expensive ship... especially if I'm about to lose it... and then sometimes I lose the ship because of it :/ |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
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Posted - 2015.09.25 01:20:24 -
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That is pretty much standard for most people to begin with. It dies down after a good while. But still, when im manually buzzing round a number of ships that could hit me very hard if i make the slightest mistake my hand can shake a little.
Only time will make it better, but if you are playing correctly it will never fully go away. It might get the the point where its been so long since you had it that it takes you by surprise :p
I think having a good expectation of what the enemies are going to be capable of helps. A new player has so much to learn, i think its the unknown that drives the shakes.
Also, join a good corp and fly in gangs where your anxiety doesnt result in your immediate death. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
101
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Posted - 2015.09.25 06:43:31 -
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The inability to function goes away but for non-trivial fights the shaking hands and pounding heart remain. I had the longest solo fight of my life about 2 weeks ago - 15 minutes against 8 GMVA guys spanning a 1000km distance - and the shakes were there the whole way through. Had to have a lie down afterwards but it didn't stop me doing what needed to be done in the battle. |
Hochopepa
POS Consultants Group LLC
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:05:41 -
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I've played since 2003/2004, the heart pounding never has gone away for me, regardless of the engagement, whether solo, gang or fleet. The freezing goes away, but the hand shaking and heart pounding never has. When it does, I'll leave EVE. |
Hochopepa
POS Consultants Group LLC
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Posted - 2015.09.25 15:08:10 -
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Epikurus wrote:The inability to function goes away but for non-trivial fights the shaking hands and pounding heart remain. I had the longest solo fight of my life about 2 weeks ago - 15 minutes against 8 GMVA guys spanning a 1000km distance - and the shakes were there the whole way through. Had to have a lie down afterwards but it didn't stop me doing what needed to be done in the battle.
About 6 years ago, I had a 20 minute long ceptor dual at the EC-P8R gate. Closest thing to a dog fight I've ever encountered in EVE. It really was an instance of, first person to make a mistake is dead. After the fight, warped back to the gate, jumped into HI-Sec and walked away for an hour to cool off. That was an amazing experience lol. |
Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
754
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Posted - 2015.09.25 16:13:19 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Maybe some of you will know what I am talking about, a lot will perhaps not.
Regardless, whenever I pvp, my heart starts racing so much that I simply... Freeze... I am unable to focus on anything and I perform so many mistakes. As you can see by my killboard it is pretty obvious
However, anyone who have had this, how did you learn to ignore it? I am wondering because I am very much interested in trying out pvp, but this sort of gets in the way.
-Celthric Trust me when I say: It quickly fades, and you'll miss it when it does.
You'll end up just another 'Shakes' junkie like the rest of us, always looking for that first hit.
"Nicknack, I'm in a shoe in space, on my computer, in my house, with a cup of coffee, in't that something." - Fly Safe PopPaddi. o7
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.25 17:26:11 -
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It's just funny because I have perfect skills, but I get nervous regardless. Yesterday I even fled from a pvp fitted Imicus while flying a pvp fitted Imperial Slicer |
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2015.09.25 22:32:59 -
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Buy 50 rookie ships or t1 frigs, undock with the purpose of losing them. Repeat until the shakes attenuate.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Oylpann Kumamato
Tax Fugitives United
11
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:26:42 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:p.s. No idea why this happens only in Eve. I'm at least half indifferent in other games.
I would guess because in 99% of the other games out there, there's no real tangible "loss" from losing. You just respawn and move on.
That's how I see it anyway. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
915
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Posted - 2015.09.27 06:30:04 -
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Oylpann Kumamato wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:p.s. No idea why this happens only in Eve. I'm at least half indifferent in other games. I would guess because in 99% of the other games out there, there's no real tangible "loss" from losing. You just respawn and move on. That's how I see it anyway.
Imagine that you had to actually pay for your stuff in CoD? Like you're contemplating about how much hours in a desk job do you have to do to be ale to afford that SMG along with all its ammo and how are you gonna position yourself in a way that you don't die and lose your hard-earned gun.
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Samuel Triptee
Frankenstuff
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:19:21 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Maybe some of you will know what I am talking about, a lot will perhaps not.
Regardless, whenever I pvp, my heart starts racing so much that I simply... Freeze... I am unable to focus on anything and I perform so many mistakes. As you can see by my killboard it is pretty obvious
However, anyone who have had this, how did you learn to ignore it? I am wondering because I am very much interested in trying out pvp, but this sort of gets in the way.
-Celthric
So... like your capsuleer, you also must be properly "medicated".
There are many legal and illegal remedies for a case of the nerves. Experiment with a few every now and then... heh.
I've never tried, but I 'm sure my physician would look at me a bit suspiciously if I told him I needed something to keep my nerves steady and my mind alert while I'm flying my destroyers in New Eden.
Actually, it is exactly what most have already passed on to you in this thread. However, I can add a bit more...
Experience is the mechanism... knowledge is the cure. KEEP FLYING! KEEP LEARNING!
Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
480
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:14:00 -
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Samuel Triptee wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:Maybe some of you will know what I am talking about, a lot will perhaps not.
Regardless, whenever I pvp, my heart starts racing so much that I simply... Freeze... I am unable to focus on anything and I perform so many mistakes. As you can see by my killboard it is pretty obvious
However, anyone who have had this, how did you learn to ignore it? I am wondering because I am very much interested in trying out pvp, but this sort of gets in the way.
-Celthric So... like your capsuleer, you also must be properly "medicated". There are many legal and illegal remedies for a case of the nerves. Experiment with a few every now and then... heh. I've never tried, but I 'm sure my physician would look at me a bit suspiciously if I told him I needed something to keep my nerves steady and my mind alert while I'm flying my destroyers in New Eden. Actually, it is exactly what most have already passed on to you in this thread. However, I can add a bit more... Experience is the mechanism... knowledge is the cure. KEEP FLYING! KEEP LEARNING!
Not gonna take drugs because of a game ;) |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
193
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:32:57 -
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Can i suggest as well you fit 10 of these tormentors and go lose them all. I guarantee you will get a kill and you will shake off some of the heart pounding.
[Tormentor] 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I F85 Peripheral Damage System I Heat Sink II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Edit: Carry Gleam and Imp Navy Multifreq as well. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
480
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Posted - 2015.09.28 15:42:43 -
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Switch Savage wrote:Can i suggest as well you fit 10 of these tormentors and go lose them all. I guarantee you will get a kill and you will shake off some of the heart pounding.
[Tormentor] 'Refuge' Adaptive Nano Plating I F85 Peripheral Damage System I Heat Sink II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S Small Focused Beam Laser II,Aurora S
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I Small Energy Burst Aerator I
Edit: Carry Gleam and Imp Navy Multifreq as well.
Thanks, I'll try it out!
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
193
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Posted - 2015.09.28 16:15:57 -
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To add to this if you do not get a kill with 10 losses of those, I will give you 100m. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.28 17:17:23 -
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Switch Savage wrote:To add to this if you do not get a kill with 10 losses of those, I will give you 100m. That is very generous of you o7 |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.09.28 17:47:09 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Maybe some of you will know what I am talking about, a lot will perhaps not.
Regardless, whenever I pvp, my heart starts racing so much that I simply... Freeze... I am unable to focus on anything and I perform so many mistakes. As you can see by my killboard it is pretty obvious
However, anyone who have had this, how did you learn to ignore it? I am wondering because I am very much interested in trying out pvp, but this sort of gets in the way.
-Celthric
repetition, and it will still happen on occasion no matter how long you have been doing it, that's what is so great about this game
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12113
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Posted - 2015.09.28 18:18:26 -
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As per previous thread , still get them .
I found getting hammered and attacking battleships with a frigate helps to get the initial hebejebes out.
When you're balls deep with a ship you have no business even thinking about tackling , never mind killing and actually making progress you kinda pull your **** together just in case you manage to pull it off.
Hopefully you never truly shake them off though, this is the only game that I have ever gotten them from and it keeps me coming back.
Better the Devil you know.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
481
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Posted - 2015.09.28 19:26:27 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:As per previous thread , still get them .
I found getting hammered and attacking battleships with a frigate helps to get the initial hebejebes out.
When you're balls deep with a ship you have no business even thinking about tackling , never mind killing and actually making progress you kinda pull your **** together just in case you manage to pull it off.
Hopefully you never truly shake them off though, this is the only game that I have ever gotten them from and it keeps me coming back.
Wouldn't mind losing the shake as my mind goes completely blank. Last time I tried I lost all focus on ranges, my speed and having enemy drones on me (I was in a frigate) I panic'd even more and burned out my mwd to get out of range. |
Austneal
Nero Fazione End of Life
72
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Posted - 2015.09.29 22:18:55 -
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Hochopepa wrote:About 6 years ago, I had a 20 minute long ceptor dual at the EC-P8R gate. Closest thing to a dog fight I've ever encountered in EVE. It really was an instance of, first person to make a mistake is dead. After the fight, warped back to the gate, jumped into HI-Sec and walked away for an hour to cool off. That was an amazing experience lol. A lot of awesome things have happened on that gate. I remember a guy by the name of Snot Shot who seemed to live there |
Marlin Spikes
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
241
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Posted - 2015.10.03 17:05:49 -
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I don't understand. What shakes?
Seriously, fly cheaper ships. Pvp more.
Bombers Rule!!!
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
496
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Posted - 2015.10.03 20:33:18 -
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Marlin Spikes wrote:I don't understand. What shakes?
Seriously, fly cheaper ships. Pvp more.
I have flown cheap ships. The shakes I refer to is my heart is pounding so hard that it becomes a distraction which inables me to focus. Fight or flight mechanic I guess, in which my brain naturally chooses flight.
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Reah Darknorth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.10.04 05:37:05 -
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Practice makes perfect as they say. Also knowledge is power.
But also you gotta learn to not care. The fear of losing is one of the main reasons why people get the shakes and pounding heart. You need to focus your mind on not caring whether you live or die, but simply doing the best you can, doing the most efficient killing you possibly can. Ignore the possibility of loss. Still think rationally and strategically, but at the same time, have no fear and have no cares.
Also it helps to fly cheap but effective ships, because there's a lot more pressure to not lose if you're flying expensive boats; you can thank the killboard meta for that. I could go on a rant about killboards and the killboard attitude most players have, but that's a different issue so whatever. |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
874
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Posted - 2015.10.04 11:09:11 -
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With time. Your pvp will become more a reaction than an action. You will react in a fight as things develop in it.
A thousand losses each loss will teach you something, it could be you did not stay out of nuet range or a million other little things yu learn.
Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.
Amarr Liason Officer Extraordinare
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
496
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Posted - 2015.10.04 12:47:48 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote: Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.
Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW.
I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.
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Naoru Kozan
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
95
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Posted - 2015.10.04 17:00:04 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote: Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.
Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW. I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics.
Experience will get rid of the freezes.
Lack of pvp guides? Mate we are like living in the golden age of pvp guides with all the **** that is getting published on youtube. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
496
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Posted - 2015.10.04 22:42:12 -
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Naoru Kozan wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote: Either way the shakes as they are called usually stay, it is the 'freeze up' part that you lose as it all becomes more reaction.
Yeah, the freeze up part is what's killing me in pvp. I guess I just got to try someplace where solo pvp is more common and hope for the best. I have occasionally run into solo pvpers in Huola FW. I just wish there were more pvp guides. I've found a bunch but most of them only cover the very basics. Experience will get rid of the freezes. Lack of pvp guides? Mate we are like living in the golden age of pvp guides with all the **** that is getting published on youtube.
And yet nobody explains what to do in certain situations. |
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