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Captain Brownfinger
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:12:13 -
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The OP is not interested in hearing the truth though. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
40435
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:36:57 -
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Captain Brownfinger wrote:The OP is not interested in hearing the truth though. Yeah maybe. Just trying to help.
Amanda Guido was purchased for 10 Billion in January this year by Nanna Kurvora, who was created 2 days earlier. So on the surface looks as though - new player joined game and bought mid skill point character thinking bigger and more expensive is better. Is now perhaps realising that skill points aren't as useful as player knowledge and skill and could by now be successfully having fun solo pvping on the original character without spending the 10B.
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Captain Brownfinger
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:40:42 -
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LOL thanks for that info, it proves the idea of the person not actually being a real '03 player and just bought the toon contrary to their claims of being an '03 player. |
Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:19:26 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Captain Brownfinger wrote:The OP is not interested in hearing the truth though. Yeah maybe. Just trying to help. Amanda Guido was purchased for 10 Billion in January this year by Nanna Kurvora, who was created 2 days earlier. So on the surface looks as though - new player joined game and bought mid skill point character thinking bigger and more expensive is better. Is now perhaps realising that skill points aren't as useful as player knowledge and skill and could by now be successfully having fun solo pvping on the original character without spending the 10B.
My other character was sold, Hellen Kurvora, for this character. My very first character Helena Vexar, is even older. I am not new, I do know how to fit, I do know the game mechanics.
When you form a fleet with a guy and he sees that you are flying a BS and says "why are you pvping in a BS, they are terrible in pvp", you know damn well there is an issue and it is not me. |
Captain Brownfinger
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:30:33 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:I do know how to fit, I do know the game mechanics..
No you don't, you have proven you don't. Just because you say you have been around since '03 it does not mean you know anything. You may have actually played for a short while back then but you sure as hell didn't stick around long enough to learn anything at all
Battleships are just fine in PvP when used in their proper roles and not whatever role you think you should be able to shoehorn them into even if the role is completely wrong. Would you take a frigate to a POS Bash ? No, no you wouldn't and if you bring a battleship to a small gang or solo PvP it's the wrong place. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:32:24 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Captain Brownfinger wrote:The OP is not interested in hearing the truth though. Yeah maybe. Just trying to help. Amanda Guido was purchased for 10 Billion in January this year by Nanna Kurvora, who was created 2 days earlier. So on the surface looks as though - new player joined game and bought mid skill point character thinking bigger and more expensive is better. Is now perhaps realising that skill points aren't as useful as player knowledge and skill and could by now be successfully having fun solo pvping on the original character without spending the 10B. My other character was sold, Hellen Kurvora, for this character. My very first character Helena Vexar, is even older. I am not new, I do know how to fit, I do know the game mechanics. When you form a fleet with a guy and he sees that you are flying a BS and says "why are you pvping in a BS, they are terrible in pvp", you know damn well there is an issue and it is not me. Yeah no problems.
Helena Vexar is a 2009 character though. Not 2003.
I wasn't questioning your assertions, just observations. It's possible to roll alts at any point, so a 2015 character buying an older character can be a few things in the end.
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:51:58 -
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Captain Brownfinger wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:I do know how to fit, I do know the game mechanics.. No you don't, you have proven you don't. Just because you say you have been around since '03 it does not mean you know anything. You may have actually played for a short while back then but you sure as hell didn't stick around long enough to learn anything at all Battleships are just fine in PvP when used in their proper roles and not whatever role you think you should be able to shoehorn them into even if the role is completely wrong. Would you take a frigate to a POS Bash ? No, no you wouldn't and if you bring a battleship to a small gang or solo PvP it's the wrong place.
And what I am telling you is that even in large fleet battles, which you say is the limited role which they fit into, they bring very little to the table that other vessels can not do better, with more mobility, and less risk, with less loss.
Faction and t2 cruisers can pretty much match BS dps with better application, more mobility, smaller sig, faster lock time. Nobody flies BS anymore dude. There is a reason for that. They are terrible. They do have a role, its called lvl 4 missions and plexes. Get real |
DEM0N SEEKER
Aliastra Gallente Federation
902
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:59:11 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:When you say solo, is that real solo and no links? What about implants? Drugs? If you are going to make life hard on yourself by flying large ships that are slow, less agile and with less tracking than needed compared to your opponents, then you need to give yourself as much up front to even out those disadvantages and give yourself the best chance to be able to apply your DPS. So if you aren't using snakes, appropriate combat boosters and a links alt, I'd suggest starting there. The alternative aside from shipping down, would be to use a sniping ship (eg. ABC or Combat BC now) and use the advantage of long range to kill light tackle and other opponents before they ever reach you (there are many crazy people out there that will just click approach on you from range and have 0 transversal while they try to reach you). Lastly, go watch all of Mr Hyde's YouTube videos and when you get blabbed anyone (because juicy), just link this video in local: http://youtu.be/E5S4EU_Zprs But don't you think its ridiculous that a bigger, more expensive ship needs to do all that extra just to be effective? Like, what is the point in even spending the extra money just to be LESS effective? Why even fly anything bigger when they are LESS capable and MORE expensive? That design philosophy is flawed, no? you need to learn to pick your targets better. just because your in a bigger ship doesnt mean you auto win. try frig pvp and fight against frigs. i suggest starting from the bottom and work your way up. again learn to pick targets |
Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:00:54 -
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DEM0N SEEKER wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:When you say solo, is that real solo and no links? What about implants? Drugs? If you are going to make life hard on yourself by flying large ships that are slow, less agile and with less tracking than needed compared to your opponents, then you need to give yourself as much up front to even out those disadvantages and give yourself the best chance to be able to apply your DPS. So if you aren't using snakes, appropriate combat boosters and a links alt, I'd suggest starting there. The alternative aside from shipping down, would be to use a sniping ship (eg. ABC or Combat BC now) and use the advantage of long range to kill light tackle and other opponents before they ever reach you (there are many crazy people out there that will just click approach on you from range and have 0 transversal while they try to reach you). Lastly, go watch all of Mr Hyde's YouTube videos and when you get blabbed anyone (because juicy), just link this video in local: http://youtu.be/E5S4EU_Zprs But don't you think its ridiculous that a bigger, more expensive ship needs to do all that extra just to be effective? Like, what is the point in even spending the extra money just to be LESS effective? Why even fly anything bigger when they are LESS capable and MORE expensive? That design philosophy is flawed, no? you need to learn to pick your targets better. just because your in a bigger ship doesnt mean you auto win. try frig pvp and fight against frigs. i suggest starting from the bottom and work your way up. again learn to pick targets
I do a lot of frig pvp and I am good at it. But in a larger ship its tough to pick your battles. What ends up happening is you see a good fight, lock in, and 8 of his friends jump in. So unless you run from every fight, I mean, you cant do much.
Eve is all about mobility, bigger ships just dont have it. Thats why nobody flies them |
Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:08:23 -
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ITT bads teaching bads |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:13:45 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
And what I am telling you is that even in large fleet battles, which you say is the limited role which they fit into, they bring very little to the table that other vessels can not do better, with more mobility, and less risk, with less loss.
Faction and t2 cruisers can pretty much match BS dps with better application, more mobility, smaller sig, faster lock time. Nobody flies BS anymore dude. There is a reason for that. They are terrible. They do have a role, its called lvl 4 missions and plexes. Get real
My very existence proves you to be wrong.
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:19:29 -
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baltec1 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
And what I am telling you is that even in large fleet battles, which you say is the limited role which they fit into, they bring very little to the table that other vessels can not do better, with more mobility, and less risk, with less loss.
Faction and t2 cruisers can pretty much match BS dps with better application, more mobility, smaller sig, faster lock time. Nobody flies BS anymore dude. There is a reason for that. They are terrible. They do have a role, its called lvl 4 missions and plexes. Get real
My very existence proves you to be wrong.
How is that sir? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16727
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:26:05 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
How is that sir?
My battleships out run the frigate fleets it takes part in and is fully able to hit them.
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:52:41 -
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baltec1 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
How is that sir?
My battleships out run the frigate fleets it takes part in and is fully able to hit them.
well I think its safe to say most peoples BS cant outrun frigate fleets. I am not even sure how thats possible |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.10.05 04:00:45 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:So given that paradigm, what role do the larger ships play when they struggle to counter anything but each other? Why even field them instead of a large amount of small ships? bigger ships do more damage and have more hit points. in some ways they are more vulnerable to smaller ships, mostly in the tracking department. Also note a small ship under the guns of one big ship won't necessarily be under the guns of another larger ship. Also in the small ship's journey to get under the guns, it is vulnerable to getting blapped. a medium neut is like 1/3-1/2 of a frigs cap, and a heavy neut is pretty much a destroyer's cap
there are of course problem ships like the 60km point 8km/s snaked linked garmur, but that is going to **** off nearly everything solo.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.10.05 04:06:04 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:baltec1 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
How is that sir?
My battleships out run the frigate fleets it takes part in and is fully able to hit them. well I think its safe to say most peoples BS cant outrun frigate fleets. I am not even sure how thats possible Yeah it's possible.
We use this in our Alliance (7774 m/s with heat). ABC and not Battleship, but high speeds are possible. Just big tradeoffs for that speed too and you have to fly it effectively :
[Talos, Talos]
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
We often get a convo request from frigate pilots asking wtf?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.05 04:06:58 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:baltec1 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
How is that sir?
My battleships out run the frigate fleets it takes part in and is fully able to hit them. well I think its safe to say most peoples BS cant outrun frigate fleets. I am not even sure how thats possible
Anyone can do what I do.
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NovaCat13
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.05 04:37:16 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Ya man, that sucked balls. Got blobed in a plex in low sec and warping back into high sec a proteus at the gate insta locked me as I came out of warp. Real nice game mechanics
Um you Panic'd At the Disco, er died to a smart bomb... no lock required. But I guess that's been pointed out already... |
Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 05:52:03 -
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NovaCat13 wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:Ya man, that sucked balls. Got blobed in a plex in low sec and warping back into high sec a proteus at the gate insta locked me as I came out of warp. Real nice game mechanics Um you Panic'd At the Disco, er died to a smart bomb... no lock required. But I guess that's been pointed out already... I'm just here for the popcorn.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
447
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Posted - 2015.10.05 05:52:30 -
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Wow this month sk far.... (and its only the 5th guys. Five days)....
You have lost Five navy Exeqs at 400-500mill each. 1 thorax over 100mill, 1 hyp at a cool bill and 2 pods both over 1 and 1/2 bill.
Total over 8 billion isk in loses this month (like 4 days....)
In this time you have managed to kill 2 condors and a hookbil for like 30mill.
Wow. Seriously you should prob just sell this toon and start a new 400k sp toon and do the tutorials. You are just dense and ignorant and very very bad.
I am going to blow you up and pod you btw. See you soon. |
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 05:53:49 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Wow this month sk far.... (and its only the 5th guys. Five days)....
You have lost Five navy Exeqs at 400-500mill each. 1 thorax over 100mill, 1 hyp at a cool bill and 2 pods both over 1 and 1/2 bill.
Total over 8 billion isk in loses this month (like 4 days....)
In this time you have managed to kill 2 condors and a hookbil for like 30mill.
Wow. Seriously you should prob just sell this toon and start a new 400k sp toon and do the tutorials. You are just dense and ignorant and very very bad.
I am going to blow you up and pod you btw. See you soon.
1v1? I would be happy to meet you anytime any place and 1v1 you in any ship of your choice? BTW, your last kill was june 4th, so please shut the frack up |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
71
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:00:07 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
I do a lot of frig pvp and I am good at it.
I'm done, stick a fork in me
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:02:13 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Amanda Guido wrote:
I do a lot of frig pvp and I am good at it.
I'm done, stick a fork in me
Check my killboard dude, and try to look for something other then just my losses. I have a ton of solo frig kills, good ones |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:03:06 -
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Amanda Guido wrote: Love these newbs who come in here and think they know what happened when they were not present.
You were present and were blissfully unaware you'd been smart bombed and someone who wasn't there told you what happened from the kill mail, but yeah I forgot, you're an 03 player, really good at frigate pvp and everyone giving you advice is wrong or to be insulted.
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Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:03:31 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Amanda Guido wrote: Love these newbs who come in here and think they know what happened when they were not present. You were present and were blissfully unaware you'd been smart bombed and someone who wasn't there told you what happened from the kill mail, but yeah I forgot, you're an 03 player, really good at frigate pvp and everyone giving you advice is wrong or to be insulted.
Tell you what bro, meet me somewhere. I will show u something about 1v1 |
Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
35
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:14:46 -
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You know what I notice about all you forum warriors? You love to talk and critique, but when put to the challenge you always back off. Happens everytime. Those who accept the challenge end up like my last kill. LOL
Friggen cowards |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
71
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:19:24 -
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This thread needs locking for everybody's sake |
Amanda Guido
Crimson Exploration
35
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:21:19 -
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Portmanteau wrote:This thread needs locking for everybody's sake
Dude, if you arent willing to prove your skill and just gonna go on yabbering, then go somewhere else. You clearly dont have confidence in your pvp abilities, or else you would not be a coward and turn down my challenge. So take ur BS elsewhere |
Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
659
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Posted - 2015.10.05 06:57:21 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:Portmanteau wrote:Amanda Guido wrote: Love these newbs who come in here and think they know what happened when they were not present. You were present and were blissfully unaware you'd been smart bombed and someone who wasn't there told you what happened from the kill mail, but yeah I forgot, you're an 03 player, really good at frigate pvp and everyone giving you advice is wrong or to be insulted. Tell you what bro, meet me somewhere. I will show u something about 1v1
lol this guy yammering about wanting to meet another dude. That's totally normal and not un-straight at all. Perfectly normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgF42jlEEIs |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16727
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Posted - 2015.10.05 08:58:31 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:
Dude, if you arent willing to prove your skill and just gonna go on yabbering, then go somewhere else. You clearly dont have confidence in your pvp abilities, or else you would not be a coward and turn down my challenge. So take ur BS elsewhere
I'll call you out then as I have no need to chestbeat about my pvp abilities in large hulls, other people can do that for me.
You make poor choices in fittings, tactics and when and where to engage. I have attempted to help you in two threads but you have ignored it all and even felt the need to lie and insult anyone who point this out to you.
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