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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 01:40:00 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Current Habit wrote:What about the skins the two teams received? They fixed at least one match and received skins for it. Skins have not been distributed yet, and in this case, they will not be receiving any. The number of match wins (and thus skins) for other teams will not be adjusted. Icarus Narcissus wrote:What does this do as far at the top 16 guaranteed to be in AT14? Will it now be top 14 or will two more teams have something to celebrate beyond victory for the greater good? The teams previously placed 17 and 18 are now placed 15 and 16, and as such will be offered those positions (assuming we stick with them for next year) Just curious, how are you going to determine who got 17th and 18th out of the teams that were knocked out in the same round (17th to 24th I believe)?
We'll rank that group similarly to how we rank the other elimination groups to work out seeding order and take the top two in order.
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Kat Ayclism
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
347
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Posted - 2015.10.07 01:57:06 -
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Any reason why Kadesh's admission to having a bunch of hacks for info gathering, etc... are still treated as just the captains? Or will there be an investigation into that?
Cause holy crap, what he dropped on fail-heap is a pretty big bomb of cheating that goes a lot deeper than just some collusion. I don't really feel safe in the face of that for future tournaments. |
SaB0TaG3
TYR. Exodus.
5
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Posted - 2015.10.07 02:12:22 -
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2nd.
Quick question about the ranking CCP Logibro, how is 3rd and 4th place prizes split 50/50, yet not 1st and 2nd? Exodus only placed where we did because we lost to a DQed team earlier. We never got to face PL. We were also technically undefeated. Just sayin'.
The saddest thing about all this is that they probably could have won anyways, and negative wallets are probably going to make some people quit that had nothing to do with all this.
Congrats to Tuskers and Nulli that are now in the prize pool. |
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
125
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Posted - 2015.10.07 02:32:21 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Davis TetrisKing wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Current Habit wrote:What about the skins the two teams received? They fixed at least one match and received skins for it. Skins have not been distributed yet, and in this case, they will not be receiving any. The number of match wins (and thus skins) for other teams will not be adjusted. Icarus Narcissus wrote:What does this do as far at the top 16 guaranteed to be in AT14? Will it now be top 14 or will two more teams have something to celebrate beyond victory for the greater good? The teams previously placed 17 and 18 are now placed 15 and 16, and as such will be offered those positions (assuming we stick with them for next year) Just curious, how are you going to determine who got 17th and 18th out of the teams that were knocked out in the same round (17th to 24th I believe)? We'll rank that group similarly to how we rank the other elimination groups to work out seeding order and take the top two in order.
Interesting.
Also massive thanks for all the work you and the rest of CCP do Logibro. |
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
125
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Posted - 2015.10.07 02:39:54 -
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SaB0TaG3 wrote:2nd.
Quick question about the ranking CCP Logibro, how is 3rd and 4th place prizes split 50/50, yet not 1st and 2nd? Exodus only placed where we did because we lost to a DQed team earlier. We never got to face PL. We were also technically undefeated. Just sayin'.
The saddest thing about all this is that they probably could have won anyways, and negative wallets are probably going to make some people quit that had nothing to do with all this.
Congrats to Tuskers and Nulli that are now in the prize pool.
Damn that's a fair question.
The obvious/easy solution is to do what they have done and just let all the results stand, remove the disqualified teams from the final results and then bump everyone up as appropriate. This doesn't account for all the bracket changes that would occur if the disqualified team had not played, so in the end the results aren't conclusive.
To me this means PL get the win, but that the results are not definitive. If I was you I'd happily be claiming to be a 'disputed but inconclusive equal 1st ATXIII team' or some **** like that.
I guess CCP just has to do the best job they can. |
Callduron
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:45:55 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Current Habit wrote:What about the skins the two teams received? They fixed at least one match and received skins for it. Skins have not been distributed yet, and in this case, they will not be receiving any. The number of match wins (and thus skins) for other teams will not be adjusted. Icarus Narcissus wrote:What does this do as far at the top 16 guaranteed to be in AT14? Will it now be top 14 or will two more teams have something to celebrate beyond victory for the greater good? The teams previously placed 17 and 18 are now placed 15 and 16, and as such will be offered those positions (assuming we stick with them for next year) Just curious, how are you going to determine who got 17th and 18th out of the teams that were knocked out in the same round (17th to 24th I believe)?
As Captain of a team that finished in the top 32, I'd be very interested in knowing if 2 teams will be bumped up to top 16 and therefore become seeded for next year's competition.
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I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
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Leonardo Adami
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:58:09 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Leonardo Adami wrote:I think it's BS to punish those that didn't have any idea about the cheating. And even though they seem to have colluded amongst themselves they still wrecked everyone else. Dear Warlords Q.Q Alt, It is up to the players of any team to consider if they should devote their months of effort toward a team captain who may lead them to victory but do so illegally, forfeiting the efforts of the whole team (and in some cases, the whole alliance who bankrolls the effort)....or whether they should instead devote their efforts to a team and captain who won't waste all that effort and ISK of the whole team. In the end, it is up to team members to demand their captains aren't cheating bastards. if their captains and other team members aren't prepared to play honestly right up until the end, then leave that alliance and team and captain and reform elsewhere for a push at AT.
Lol, I'm alt but not for warlords or hydra, or any body else that has a vested interest in the tournament. And I'm not QQ'n I'm stating my f'ing opinion.
Edited due to deleted bracket in quote. |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
205
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Posted - 2015.10.07 06:47:02 -
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Negative selection at it's finest. Let's ban those who actually try to perform and host special olympics the next time. |
Seliah
Repo.
216
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Posted - 2015.10.07 06:56:58 -
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Damn it, PL wins again ! :P
Nice work swiftly resolving this issue CCP, it'll be interesting to see what changes are made to the AT rules to prevent this from happening again. |
Eklykti
Zion foundation Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.10.07 08:17:53 -
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There's no point in making another AT after this decision, so they will probably just make a forum tears championship instead of AT. |
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Stoffl
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
45
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Posted - 2015.10.07 08:40:25 -
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My sides have left the orbit |
TurboX3
Hax. Shadow Cartel
139
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:11:00 -
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This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure.
No Trolling Please
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Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
115
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:42:33 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:Ur char looks like he has cancer or like he rides enternal through valhalla, shiny and chrome. Thanks, I guess? |
Escuro
Monks of War Out of Sight.
40
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:44:17 -
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CCP does it again!
First you allow teams to train together. Then you ban them out because you think they trained too well and decided to use it for their advantage.
CCP ruined the game again :D |
OmgNoFreeNames
Guns Of Avalon
0
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:45:44 -
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Kat Ayclism wrote:CAUSE WEEEEEEEEEEEE ARE THE CHAMPIONNNNSSSS MY FRIEEEEEENNNNNDDDDDDDDDDD!
AND WEEEEEEEEEE'LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TO THE EENNNNNDDDDDDDDD
NO TIME FOR LOSERRRSSS CAUSE WEEEEEE ARRRREEEE THE CHAAAAAMMMPPIIIIOOOOONNNSSSS
OF THE WHIIIIIIIINEEEEE!!!111 |
Dani Lizardov
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
33
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:47:41 -
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I think eve alliance tournament was a joke. 4-5k watchers on the Twich. That drama again does not helps it at all.
That is your monster :) now feed it ! Those bans, wont affect any future back stage plans. You have not resolved the problem. You have not even identified the problem .
Congrats to the new winners. Everyone that watched the finals sow why you were Not.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Squids
392
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Posted - 2015.10.07 10:00:46 -
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Obligatory:
R E K T
Good on you, CCP.
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks | Steam: CoffeeRocks
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gramafon
Sequent Industry Out of Sight.
23
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Posted - 2015.10.07 10:02:32 -
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**** you CCP! PL suck for first place.
Worst decision ever. **** CCP. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1479
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Posted - 2015.10.07 10:29:18 -
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Good job CCP.
The Tears Must Flow
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Swind
FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:28:58 -
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Not banning the whole teams name by name from the next AT-s, (just banning the leaders) same like if we drop a mafia leader to prison, and he will organize and lead the organization from the jail, without any problem. Sadly, CCP has no balls. |
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
297
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:36:26 -
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Ha ha. After that to me they say that the heirs of equal chances to become the Emperor. CCP push through PL. Congrats.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
"All these wayward children." (c) Jamyl Sarum
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:27:26 -
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So everyone knew that the Outbreak and Hydra game was fixed even when it wasn't actually admitted. So why wasn't anything done about this? |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
82
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:30:50 -
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TurboX3 wrote:This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure.
I completely agree how PL was allowed to field 3 teams was a complete joke when other alliances were refused entry. Clearly PL has always been favoured by CCP. To be honest AT is just one big fix and I rellay have no interest anymore it because its just tainted
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Keira Impevion
ImpeviA
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:43:40 -
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ImYourMom wrote:So everyone knew that the Outbreak and Hydra game was fixed even when it wasn't actually admitted. So why wasn't anything done about this?
Because at this time there were no rules against it, before AT X teams were selling/throwing matches and it was perfectly fine with AT rules at this time. |
Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
178
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:45:57 -
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ImYourMom wrote:TurboX3 wrote:This is crap from CCP... when PL can field 3 teams within AT.... yet again CCP shows it's incompetence as an authority figure. I completely agree how PL was allowed to field 3 teams was a complete joke when other alliances were refused entry. Clearly PL has always been favoured by CCP. To be honest AT is just one big fix and I rellay have no interest anymore it because its just tainted
None of the "PL Teams" ever fought each other so there was no opportunity for collusion. That's before you go into scrimming together, sharing resources and the rest which were legal but PL did not do. The three teams are entirely independent whether you want to accept that or not. I doubt next years rules will allow Waffles or Horde to compete due to their proximity to PL, which is understandable considering the position CCP have been put in by people who don't understand the difference between metagaming and cheating.
Good decision CCP and Logibro.
I'm kinda glad Kadesh decided to have a public meltdown on FHC and confessed they did infact cheat as well as possibly more, as it validates the fact that CCP were spot on with their decision. |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
369
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:15:34 -
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I also want to say that i disagree with the final placings, while nulli indeed lost to pl neither the tuskers nor exodus did. They simply got seeded in a different spot and had to to meet hydramel twice before pl had to, which - just as pl, knocked them out.
In that persective, 3 of the top 4 went unbeated by any legit tournament team, crowing any one of them as the number 1 is wrong and unfair.
Simply not crowning a victor and destributing the prices in a even matter amongst the top 4 would be by far the better ruling. |
Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
170
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:48:49 -
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TOO BAD SO SAD
Follow us @PLIRC!
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SwissChris1
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
22
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:50:23 -
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Kadesh (October 6 2015, 07:00:49 PM): "I regret nothing. If i could rewind time back, I just would be more opsec, so that no little ****** annoys me after the tournament. Anyone who has other mindset with ~honor~ or any other high-moral bullshit doesn't deserve to win. This is eve. "
source: http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?20287-Don-t-let-your-dreams-be-dreams |
OmgNoFreeNames
Guns Of Avalon
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:02:11 -
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Are you sure it was really his account there? His forum name is different mostly. And why he had to post it on failheap instead of using this forum? |
Captain Thunk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
178
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:05:54 -
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OmgNoFreeNames wrote:And why he had to post it on failheap instead of using this forum?
Because you're not allowed to discuss cheating or exploits one eve-o
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