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![Carrie-Anne Moss Carrie-Anne Moss](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95271876/portrait?size=64)
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2015.10.08 17:59:16 -
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/
With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs.
Cant board ships with criminal status now.
WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE???
HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI. |
![ashley Eoner ashley Eoner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92100297/portrait?size=64)
ashley Eoner
497
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:07:06 -
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mmm tasty salt...
You had a good run with it but pushed things too far with the shuttles exploit so CCP had to do something. |
![Jenn aSide Jenn aSide](https://images.evetech.net/characters/241523665/portrait?size=64)
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12596
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:09:00 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs. Cant board ships with criminal status now. WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE??? HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI.
The bears will rejoice, till they find out (like they did with low slot son freighters and the mining ship EHP buff) that all that really happened was that the ganking community will be so ticked off at CCP caving in to weak minded players again, that the actual number of ganks go up (probably WAY up) instead of down (affecting everyone, not just the people who complain to CCP).
They never understand how vengeful gankers are (i do, which is why I use existing tools to thwart them rather than beg CCP for help) and are always surprised when this happens. Best thing is that with CCPs tweak to null, i haven't had to be in high sec for a while, and I have a good supply of popcorn to watch the coming drama ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) |
![Vollhov Vollhov](https://images.evetech.net/characters/986699526/portrait?size=64)
Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
298
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:09:26 -
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EVE R.I.R ![Question](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_questionmark.png)
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
"All these wayward children." (c) Jamyl Sarum
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![Bellatrix Invicta Bellatrix Invicta](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95635781/portrait?size=64)
Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
623
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:10:19 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs. Cant board ships with criminal status now. WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE??? HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI. The bears will rejoice, till they find out (like they did with low slot son freighters and the mining ship EHP buff) that all that really happened was that the ganking community will be so ticked off at CCP caving in to weak minded players again, that the actual number of ganks go up (probably WAY up) instead of down (affecting everyone, not just the people who complain to CCP). They never understand how vengeful gankers are (i do, which is why I use existing tools to thwart them rather than beg CCP for help) and are always surprised when this happens. Best thing is that with CCPs tweak to null, i haven't had to be in high sec for a while, and I have a good supply of popcorn to watch the coming drama ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png)
Get a LOT of popcorn ready. If this goes live we will likely host a Burn New Eden event lasting until Eve dies or the "fix" is reverted.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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![Dirk Magnum Dirk Magnum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/124135561/portrait?size=64)
Dirk Magnum
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
498
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:12:37 -
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*hiss*
A pox in-game on all highsec buffs.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE."
- traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
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![Jenn aSide Jenn aSide](https://images.evetech.net/characters/241523665/portrait?size=64)
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12596
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:16:54 -
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Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs. Cant board ships with criminal status now. WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE??? HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI. The bears will rejoice, till they find out (like they did with low slot son freighters and the mining ship EHP buff) that all that really happened was that the ganking community will be so ticked off at CCP caving in to weak minded players again, that the actual number of ganks go up (probably WAY up) instead of down (affecting everyone, not just the people who complain to CCP). They never understand how vengeful gankers are (i do, which is why I use existing tools to thwart them rather than beg CCP for help) and are always surprised when this happens. Best thing is that with CCPs tweak to null, i haven't had to be in high sec for a while, and I have a good supply of popcorn to watch the coming drama ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Get a LOT of popcorn ready. If this goes live we will likely host a Burn New Eden event lasting until Eve dies or the "fix" is reverted.
Make the fire hot enough so i can see it from Wicked Creek ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
More seriously, I've come to realize something that I actually don't like about CCP. They have in recent years shown this tendency to reward weakness and nerf innovation. The 1st time i experienced this was when I was a member of Gallente FW and some guys hired mercs to tank the faction police in Nourvekaiken while a group of us ransakced the system. It was fun as hell and it lead to a Caldari counter-raid that caused a whole bunch of tears in Villore. In other words it was great and cool and fun.
And CCP nerfed it within a week... It's like them saying "don't come up with interesting ways to do things", like when they nerfed skynet which killed my "rat with a tanked ecm bursting fight assigned hauler and laugh at afk-cloakers/hot droppers" method.\ Oh well, I've compensated (1600 mm plate Rapid light FoF/smartbombing prophecy takes forever for stealth bombers to kill btw ) but it would be nice if CCP stopped nerfing creativity. |
![Ima Wreckyou Ima Wreckyou](https://images.evetech.net/characters/94129743/portrait?size=64)
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1630
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:18:22 -
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This will totally boost new player retention, just like the awox nerf. If CCP knows one thing then that to produce a more interesting game you have to remove possibilities and support the AFK crowd.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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![Crumplecorn Crumplecorn](https://images.evetech.net/characters/101287868/portrait?size=64)
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1999
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:21:47 -
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"The beatings will continue until morale improves" - CCP
Witty Image - Stream
Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
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![ashley Eoner ashley Eoner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92100297/portrait?size=64)
ashley Eoner
497
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:23:40 -
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Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs. Cant board ships with criminal status now. WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE??? HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI. The bears will rejoice, till they find out (like they did with low slot son freighters and the mining ship EHP buff) that all that really happened was that the ganking community will be so ticked off at CCP caving in to weak minded players again, that the actual number of ganks go up (probably WAY up) instead of down (affecting everyone, not just the people who complain to CCP). They never understand how vengeful gankers are (i do, which is why I use existing tools to thwart them rather than beg CCP for help) and are always surprised when this happens. Best thing is that with CCPs tweak to null, i haven't had to be in high sec for a while, and I have a good supply of popcorn to watch the coming drama ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Get a LOT of popcorn ready. If this goes live we will likely host a Burn New Eden event lasting until Eve dies or the "fix" is reverted. In your most fevered dreams.
This is hilarious to watch the tears flow so fast and so heavily. |
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![Mr Epeen Mr Epeen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1382977102/portrait?size=64)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9232
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:26:16 -
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So CCP wants to make CODE cry.
I have no problem with this.
Mr Epeen ![Cool](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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![BirdStrike BirdStrike](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95920322/portrait?size=64)
BirdStrike
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:28:25 -
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In 2008 i managed to nail about 3 shuttles and 4 pods including some doofus with a full slave set afk autopiloting pod through dodixie with a smartythron attack.
Today i didn't even get one smarty lit before i got instablapped.
I support the call for a burn jita attack.
If the future of EVE is f1 afk veldspar tackling then its back to handcuffing nubbins and performing lewd acts on them in DayZ.
The lack of evildoer opportunity in this era is most vexatious to one's sociopath tendencies.
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![ImYourMom ImYourMom](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93897758/portrait?size=64)
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
85
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:28:47 -
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The problem ain't hyperdunkING the problem.is being able to bump. I mean seriously if I rammed my ship into a bigger ship.it would just explode into little pieces.. bumping is the most ridiculous mechanic in eve |
![Bobb Bobbington Bobb Bobbington](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93613873/portrait?size=64)
Bobb Bobbington
The Cult of the Rare Pepes
58
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:43:09 -
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I was thinking "Huh, this doesn't seem like the usual Cam post" until hit the mandatory caps lock section.
Cam you're losing your touch. |
![Bellatrix Invicta Bellatrix Invicta](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95635781/portrait?size=64)
Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
623
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Posted - 2015.10.08 18:59:57 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3nzwmd/ccp_boost_higsec_carebears/With this and the mwd-fleet jumping "mage-WoW-blinking" guess ccp decided hyperdunking was killing their subs. Cant board ships with criminal status now. WHOA DOES THIS COUNT IN STATION TOO? SO IF YOU GANK AT GATE YOU CANT UNDOCK IN NOOBSHIP TO SHOOT STATION AND PULL CONCORD BACK OFF OF GATE??? HISEC BUFF/GANK NERF LIVE ON SISI. The bears will rejoice, till they find out (like they did with low slot son freighters and the mining ship EHP buff) that all that really happened was that the ganking community will be so ticked off at CCP caving in to weak minded players again, that the actual number of ganks go up (probably WAY up) instead of down (affecting everyone, not just the people who complain to CCP). They never understand how vengeful gankers are (i do, which is why I use existing tools to thwart them rather than beg CCP for help) and are always surprised when this happens. Best thing is that with CCPs tweak to null, i haven't had to be in high sec for a while, and I have a good supply of popcorn to watch the coming drama ![Twisted](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_twisted.png) Get a LOT of popcorn ready. If this goes live we will likely host a Burn New Eden event lasting until Eve dies or the "fix" is reverted. In your most fevered dreams. This is hilarious to watch the tears flow so fast and so heavily.
Tears? Where are tears?
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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![Globby Globby](https://images.evetech.net/characters/878768739/portrait?size=64)
Globby
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
252
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:01:53 -
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rip hyperdunking, you will be missed
ccp literally deleting content from the game by removing easily countered stratagies. there are literally 400 people in the anti-ganking channel that can save you if you just ask
it's so silly that anyone gets hyperdunked, only the silliest and dumbest people get killed by it. |
![Ralph King-Griffin Ralph King-Griffin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92902496/portrait?size=64)
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12353
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:08:17 -
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IT CAPITALISES NORMALLY OR ELSE IT GETS THE TROLL AGAIN
*popcorn*
Better the Devil you know.
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![Chainsaw Plankton Chainsaw Plankton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/733671405/portrait?size=64)
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1874
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:10:38 -
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I'm not terribly surprised. While seeing a 30b frighter go down to one dude was funny and all, it is one of those things that is kinda really only doable with the bowhead, maybe to a lesser extend with the orca (I'm not sure off the top of my head how many cattys/bombers you can stick in there)
people in the reddit thread seem fixed on the CCP said it was okay part. where my reading of it is we will tolerate it for now.
Quote:With this in mind, at this time we do not consider this tactic to be in breach of the game rules
"at this time" seems to be a pretty big we will watch this and see what happens.
@ChainsawPlankto
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![Arec Bardwin Arec Bardwin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1685169451/portrait?size=64)
Arec Bardwin
1875
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:10:53 -
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COD always wins ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
![Cancel Align NOW Cancel Align NOW](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90801676/portrait?size=64)
Cancel Align NOW
Maas Industries
612
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:12:42 -
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Reddit drama is reddit drama. Surely CCP understand how this could ruin low sec. |
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![Kinis Deren Kinis Deren](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90971622/portrait?size=64)
Kinis Deren
StarHunt Mordus Angels
475
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:15:50 -
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CCP are muscling in on the ganking permit market. HTFU CODE/goonies, put some mayo where CCP touched you, adapt or ---->H1Z1 |
![Seven Koskanaiken Seven Koskanaiken](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91384710/portrait?size=64)
Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1657
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:19:06 -
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lol
Not even surprised anymore. |
![Dan Seavey Allier Dan Seavey Allier](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93234202/portrait?size=64)
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
58
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:38:20 -
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ImYourMom wrote:The problem ain't hyperdunkING the problem.is being able to bump. I mean seriously if I rammed my ship into a bigger ship.it would just explode into little pieces.. bumping is the most ridiculous mechanic in eve
Yup. Should be wicked shield damage at the very least to the bumper, and damage as well to the bumped minus a % resist.
CCP is looking to Shepard the New Players, and not have them discouraged by Code or their ILk.
However they would be better ahead having "Daycare constellations" where concord is really heavy handed to griefers instead nerfing all of high sec.
Code provides a pretty good service of punishing the afk and the auto pilots. This is a good thing.
All of their other acts of malice are so easily avoided, it's really only the foolish or the lazy that makes them relevant at all.
Dan
Honey Never Sleeps.
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![Cancel Align NOW Cancel Align NOW](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90801676/portrait?size=64)
Cancel Align NOW
Maas Industries
612
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:40:44 -
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Dan Seavey Allier wrote:ImYourMom wrote:The problem ain't hyperdunkING the problem.is being able to bump. I mean seriously if I rammed my ship into a bigger ship.it would just explode into little pieces.. bumping is the most ridiculous mechanic in eve Yup. Should be wicked shield damage at the very least to the bumper, and damage as well to the bumped minus a % resist. CCP is looking to Shepard the New Players, and not have them discouraged by Code or their ILk. However they would be better ahead having "Daycare constellations" where concord is really heavy handed to griefers instead nerfing all of high sec. Code provides a pretty good service of punishing the afk and the auto pilots. This is a good thing. All of their other acts of malice are so easily avoided, it's really only the foolish or the lazy that makes them relevant at all. Dan
Bolded and underlined the mistake I spotted in your post. |
![Kaarous Aldurald Kaarous Aldurald](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91819847/portrait?size=64)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14668
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:48:48 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:CCP are muscling in on the ganking permit market. HTFU CODE/goonies, put some mayo where CCP touched you, adapt or ---->H1Z1
I don't really plan on going into this thread, since as usual it is the wrong decision and CCP is wrecking the sandbox in order to coddle the weak...
But hearing HTFU from anyone in MoA is hilarious. You lot poured out more tears than I have ever seen before when they finally took the Entosis away from interceptors.
Anyone with your alliance tag should never use the term HTFU.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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![Chainsaw Plankton Chainsaw Plankton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/733671405/portrait?size=64)
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1875
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:51:34 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:CCP are muscling in on the ganking permit market. HTFU CODE/goonies, put some mayo where CCP touched you, adapt or ---->H1Z1
wut? considering nerfing hyper dunking does nothing to the normal operations (ie warping 30+ talos/cattys on a freighter and blaping it) of CODE. or Goons. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few that do hyper dunking in each group, but hardly a general nerf to either group.
@ChainsawPlankto
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![Zappity Zappity](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92922536/portrait?size=64)
Zappity
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
2489
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:53:03 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:More seriously, I've come to realize something that I actually don't like about CCP. They have in recent years shown this tendency to reward weakness and nerf innovation. The 1st time i experienced this was when I was a member of Gallente FW and some guys hired mercs to tank the faction police in Nourvekaiken while a group of us ransakced the system. It was fun as hell and it lead to a Caldari counter-raid that caused a whole bunch of tears in Villore. In other words it was great and cool and fun. And CCP nerfed it within a week... It's like them saying "don't come up with interesting ways to do things", like when they nerfed skynet which killed my "rat with a tanked ecm bursting fight assigned hauler and laugh at afk-cloakers/hot droppers" method.\ Oh well, I've compensated (1600 mm plate Rapid light FoF/smartbombing prophecy takes forever for stealth bombers to kill btw ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) ) but it would be nice if CCP stopped nerfing creativity. I don't think this is fair. I would expect CCP to nerf innovation when that innovation is effectively changing game design. In this instance, hyperdunking was a very clever innovation but was certainly not an intended direction.
Having said that, I am not convinced that making highsec safer is the best decision. But changing such fundamental balance should always be a deliberate game design choice rather than being left up to the vagaries of poor feature design.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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![Carrie-Anne Moss Carrie-Anne Moss](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95271876/portrait?size=64)
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:54:03 -
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Guys. Doesn't this totally nerf gate ganking too? I have a 2-3 shot thrashe shuttle/r pod gank alt and a thorax t1 indy gank alt.
After i gank i need to board another ship like noobship and then get concord to leave the gate you just ganked and then pull them to the station.
Else next time ANYONE tries to gank at the gate they get insta concordered cuz they are still on grid and remain there for hours.
So less you are using alpha tornadoes guess if you need to gank at gate. Sit in shame for 15mins in station. Undock in noobship, pull concord to station from gate. Sit in ahame another 15mins. THEN gank again?
Effectively DOUBLING the time between gate ganks for vexors/thoraxes???
Please gankers give me hope/way to bypass this |
![Ravaging Lust Ravaging Lust](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95558742/portrait?size=64)
Ravaging Lust
Bound And Determined
12
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:55:17 -
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I support changes to help with player retention, hardcore players are not the only players that would like to enjoy the game |
![Carrie-Anne Moss Carrie-Anne Moss](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95271876/portrait?size=64)
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
460
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Posted - 2015.10.08 19:57:21 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Kinis Deren wrote:CCP are muscling in on the ganking permit market. HTFU CODE/goonies, put some mayo where CCP touched you, adapt or ---->H1Z1 wut? considering nerfing hyper dunking does nothing to the normal operations (ie warping 30+ talos/cattys on a freighter and blaping it) of CODE. or Goons. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few that do hyper dunking in each group, but hardly a general nerf to either group. It kills paranoid loyd style ganking. Thoraxes ganking t1 indys cuz he cant pull conxord from gate for extra 15mins. Then get another 15min timer. Then gank again.
Effectively doubling criminal timer/time between gate ganks cuz cant kill a t1 indy with a thorax with concord still at the gate grid |
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