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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3369
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:08:55 -
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They probably won't even put it in the patch notes.
Gotta stealth nerf. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2536
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:17:38 -
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Hyperdunking was the only avenue for anti-gankers to actually prevent a gank.
Now that hyperdunking is being removed, so too are anti-gankers only way to claim victory against gankers.
tldr; CCP actually just ricochetted off the wall and shot anti-gankers who enjoyed preventing ganks in the back of the head.
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p.s. lol
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Toxic Yaken
Amarr Squad
14
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:19:36 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:They probably won't even put it in the patch notes.
Gotta stealth nerf.
Honestly I'm surprised in the reddit thread that the only CCP post that I saw (there are a ton of downvoted comments now) was a comment to Feyd that social corps could still be a thing. 400 comments and still no real info.
Highsec Spaceboat Pirate
Overly Neglected Blog: http://shiniestneckonsafari.blogspot.ca
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
166
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:31:20 -
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Toxic Yaken wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:They probably won't even put it in the patch notes.
Gotta stealth nerf. Honestly I'm surprised in the reddit thread that the only CCP post that I saw (there are a ton of downvoted comments now) was a comment to Feyd that social corps could still be a thing. 400 comments and still no real info. With the reddit threadnaught and this, how glorious would it be if the change never makes it to TQ? Think about how many people just would have been baited into an early false celebration! Reverse tear-extraction is what I will call it.
HTFU
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:35:33 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Hyperdunking was the only avenue for anti-gankers to actually prevent a gank.
Now that hyperdunking is being removed, so too are anti-gankers only way to claim victory against gankers.
tldr; CCP actually just ricochetted off the wall and shot anti-gankers who enjoyed preventing ganks in the back of the head.
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p.s. lol It seems the interest is to simply remove player interaction. Why bother defending yourself, helping friends, getting revenge on sworn enemies when the game just magically does it all for you?
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3369
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:38:45 -
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It is great to know that after all this time, after all the statistical evidence indicating that "griefing" gameplay has basically no negative affect on player retention and generates content and conflicts, communities and counter-communities CCP still thinks nerfing highsec PVP is somehow the right thing to do for the health of the game.
I'd understand if they actually balanced it in some way, but they never do. |
Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
167
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:46:20 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:It is great to know that after all this time, after all the statistical evidence indicating that "griefing" gameplay has basically no negative affect on player retention and generates content and conflicts, communities and counter-communities CCP still thinks nerfing highsec PVP is somehow the right thing to do for the health of the game.
I'd understand if they actually balanced it in some way, but they never do. It's always the strong and informed that are forced to adapt or die, while the lame and weak are taught to rely on whining and nerfs. If something is broken or is an exploit, yeah fix it... But essentially telling the player base that an anti-tanked capital ship filled with billions in items with no support should be safe is not productive to what developers claim this game is.
HTFU
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2536
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Posted - 2015.10.09 16:18:32 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:It is great to know that after all this time, after all the statistical evidence indicating that "griefing" gameplay has basically no negative affect on player retention and generates content and conflicts, communities and counter-communities CCP still thinks nerfing highsec PVP is somehow the right thing to do for the health of the game.
I'd understand if they actually balanced it in some way, but they never do. If all these slow stealthy nerf moves were part of a real vision to reach critical mass in other game zones that actually drive new player subs, I could get behind it, and have even suggested it to the denouncement of my peers as part of a greater vision.
However, these nerfs are in a vacuum to a complete vision, do not achieve their goals of growth, and are at this point asinine to say the least. A 'dont AWOX me brah' switch for fail-CEO's, seriously?...
It's funny actually, to now hear they are still doubling down on plans for 'social corporations', listening to carebears like Mike Asariah pouring honeyed potions in their ears, just so that he and his friends can run incursions and print more dank ISK without risk of a wardec...guardian of the sandbox my ass.
What happens if more people like me throw up hands in disgust and just leave hisec & content-creation entirely, will subs go up or down. That's the interesting question.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14691
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Posted - 2015.10.09 16:30:25 -
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Seriously, we need to see if we can't make sure that stupid **** Mike Azariah isn't on the CSM next year. His hand has been on all of this year's nerfs.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2015.10.09 17:51:28 -
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What's the drawback of social corps? As I understand it, they'd essentially be chatrooms who's members get a custom corp ticker. As long as these social corps have no mechanical advantage over NPC corps, I honestly have no issue with the concept.
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1989
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Posted - 2015.10.09 17:55:21 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:With 3 accounts and 3 monitors So it's a group activity after all. Glad we cleared that up.[/quote] 3 characters managed by 1 player is not group activity, unless you multiple personality disorder.
A hard counter to Hyperdunking does not exist. Every time someone counters the HD too strongly, people call for CODE and it turns in to a normal gank. So, in this fashion why not just do a normal gank to begin with.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
171
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Posted - 2015.10.09 17:59:23 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:With 3 accounts and 3 monitors So it's a group activity after all. Glad we cleared that up. 3 characters managed by 1 player is not group activity, unless you multiple personality disorder.
A hard counter to Hyperdunking does not exist. Every time someone counters the HD too strongly, people call for CODE and it turns in to a normal gank. So, in this fashion why not just do a normal gank to begin with.
*holds a big bucket under Kaarous Aldurald's head and collects whatever fluid drips down from it* [/quote] Except you're wrong. Hyperdunking is very much a group activity because you can use more than one person to do it... (logic?)
Again, you're wrong. hardcounters to hyperdunking exist, and are extremely easy.
Oh, and you're wrong again about calling for CODE for failed hyperdunking attempts.
0/3 quite impressive.
HTFU
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Toxic Yaken
Amarr Squad
14
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:06:26 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:With 3 accounts and 3 monitors So it's a group activity after all. Glad we cleared that up. 3 characters managed by 1 player is not group activity, unless you multiple personality disorder.
A hard counter to Hyperdunking does not exist. Every time someone counters the HD too strongly, people call for CODE and it turns in to a normal gank. So, in this fashion why not just do a normal gank to begin with.
*holds a big bucket under Kaarous Aldurald's head and collects whatever fluid drips down from it* [/quote]
The hyperdunker(s) want the loot for themselves, so why call for backup if you don't need it? In my experiences most times the gank gets countered (logistics showed up, ECM showed up, etc.) we dropped it and moved on, aside from extremely high value targets or a pile of plastic wraps that you'd want to call for backup.
As previously stated it CAN be done by one person, but normally involves more than one because it is WAY easier with two or more.
Highsec Spaceboat Pirate
Overly Neglected Blog: http://shiniestneckonsafari.blogspot.ca
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1631
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:10:11 -
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because even code are greedy carebears and want all the loot to themselves
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1989
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:10:23 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:0/3 quite impressive. A troll evaluation coming from a CODE. That is most amusing. Would you please get your autopiloting freighters in check first before you lecture me about anything or continue complaining about other freighter pilots' behavior? Much appreciated. =)
Also, please fix your quotes.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Mag's
the united
20410
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:11:11 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:A hard counter to Hyperdunking does not exist. I really cannot agree with you on this, at all tbh.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Irregular Apocalypse
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:20:32 -
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I'm selling tissues if any of you guys are getting a bit teary-eyed. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2537
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:22:47 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:What's the drawback of social corps? As I understand it, they'd essentially be chatrooms who's members get a custom corp ticker. As long as these social corps have no mechanical advantage over NPC corps, I honestly have no issue with the concept.
Start here. Read onward and weep.
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
173
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:22:49 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:0/3 quite impressive. A troll evaluation coming from a CODE. That is most amusing. Would you please get your autopiloting freighters in check first before you lecture me about anything or continue complaining about other freighter pilots' behavior? Much appreciated. =) Also, please fix your quotes. That's actually a miniluv (Goon) freighter alt, but ok. Employment history is hard, I get it.
It's a group activity because I'm telling you it is. Most of my dunks have been with others and I'm glad to split the loot evenly. I'm not greedy because I know that stupid freighter and jump freighter pilots are not in short supply.
The hardcounter to a hyperdunk is literally one person in logi.
HTFU
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1990
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Posted - 2015.10.09 18:36:13 -
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There is a difference between Miniluv and Code? Must be in the margin of error, in particular since CFC personnel encourages and promotes permit purchase and demands code compliance during/after ganks in local. So, one and the same lot to me. Furthermore, since CFC entities are somewhat whitelisted to Code, their failure to comply with the Code is even graver. Do you do something about it?
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
174
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Posted - 2015.10.09 19:00:32 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:There is a difference between Miniluv and Code? Must be in the margin of error, in particular since CFC personnel encourages and promotes permit purchase and demands code compliance during/after ganks in local. So, one and the same lot to me. Furthermore, since CFC entities are somewhat whitelisted to Code, their failure to comply with the Code is even graver. Do you do something about it? I know you don't believe me, but you're wrong.
HTFU
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
241
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Posted - 2015.10.09 19:43:23 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:3 characters managed by 1 player is not group activity, unless you multiple personality disorder. It's an activity that requires three space ship pilots. The game cannot distinguish between nor enforce any rule regarding one person controlling multiple accounts. Ergo, we consider any activity that requires more than one in-game character to be a group activity.
Whether those characters are controlled by a single real life person or not is irrelevant.
Quote:A hard counter to Hyperdunking does not exist. If you were to so much as breathe on a hyperdunker, you'll hard counter it.
Quote:Every time someone counters the HD too strongly, people call for CODE and it turns in to a normal gank. So, in this fashion why not just do a normal gank to begin with. If there are sufficient CODE forces around. Of course, we're then in the situation of countering regular bumping.
People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1472
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Posted - 2015.10.09 20:13:29 -
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Sorry, about 80% of the playerbase stays in hisec. Can't imagine why.
*watches as newbros go into low and null, get raped repeatedly, then never go back in again*
Nope. The reason escapes me.
So while I would love to be a pirate yarring it up in low or null, everytime I go there I never see fat freighers/haulers trying to take a shortcut, etc.
All I see are blobs of interceptors/T3 cruisers......and empty systems.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1631
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Posted - 2015.10.09 20:21:37 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Sorry, about 80% of the playerbase stays in hisec. Can't imagine why. *watches as newbros go into low and null, get raped repeatedly, then never go back in again* Nope. The reason escapes me. So while I would love to be a pirate yarring it up in low or null, everytime I go there I never see fat freighers/haulers trying to take a shortcut, etc. All I see are blobs of interceptors/T3 cruisers......and empty systems.
hmmm you should get out of highsec a bit more
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Evil Murder Society
63
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Posted - 2015.10.09 20:22:55 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:There is a difference between Miniluv and Code? Must be in the margin of error, in particular since CFC personnel encourages and promotes permit purchase and demands code compliance during/after ganks in local. So, one and the same lot to me. Furthermore, since CFC entities are somewhat whitelisted to Code, their failure to comply with the Code is even graver. Do you do something about it?
CFC entities are not whitelisted, nor are Goons themselves. Although sometimes they seem to think so, which makes ganking them even funnier. In recent months Miniluv has been a valuable partner to the New Order, but no one is exempt from the Code in highsec.
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Schlomos Incorporated Shut It Down
113
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Posted - 2015.10.09 22:39:55 -
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As the best bumper in new eden, and the head of the cohenberg family, the news that hyperdunking may be getting removed in the future is not a big deal. With the amount of cohenbergs around, freighters will still be able to be dunked with only two real people involved. The key to freighter ganking friends is to extend your family and really just pump out those ganking alts. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7180
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Posted - 2015.10.09 22:42:23 -
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I don't recall having asked CCP to get rid of hyperdunking. Just saying.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1634
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Posted - 2015.10.09 22:45:09 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I don't recall having asked CCP to get rid of hyperdunking. Just saying.
i dont think anyone really asks for a nerf on theyre own tactic because you know thats not efficient, this is funny, gankers moan about solo play yet the counter to this nerf is to create more alts, what a load of hypocrites
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Toxic Yaken
Amarr Squad
16
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Posted - 2015.10.10 00:29:13 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I don't recall having asked CCP to get rid of hyperdunking. Just saying. i dont think anyone really asks for a nerf on theyre own tactic because you know thats not efficient, this is funny, gankers moan about solo play yet the counter to this nerf is to create more alts, what a load of hypocrites
I can't run more than two clients at once, but I don't like people. What do
Highsec Spaceboat Pirate
Overly Neglected Blog: http://shiniestneckonsafari.blogspot.ca
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
365
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Posted - 2015.10.10 00:57:30 -
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Buy better potato for playing of eve |
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