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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 16:30:51 -
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Hi all, I would like to bring up a matter that i think its very important. Not long ago I have been the victim of a scam when I was trying to buy a supercarrier and I am sure that I am not alone on this. Now buying a supercap its serious business because they cost a huge amount of isk. The super caps are the only ships in the game that cannot be bought on a normal market and there for it attracts scammers. I also do know that there is a system of so called -¦-¦ third party-¦-¦ that will ensure the player to player transaction and that there are a few players with a proven track record of securing these super cap transactions but are we safe? The answer is no because even them can one day stop being trustworthy and scam you..it will be happening once because after that his reputation will go down but still...on that day you can loose as much as 100 bil. So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps...which could be done in several ways. One of them I am going to present to you here today:
In high security space in every major trade system a super massive station where any alliance that has a toon with the requiered skills regardless if they have sov. or not can come and build super caps and put them up for sale. Any super cap undocking in that system will not be able to shoot their guns nore deploy any king of fighters or fighter bombers but only be able to jump into the nearest low sec or null sec to a special covert cyno that only super caps can lock onto and only from the high security space.
The way super caps are built and sold needs to change. Give the small alliances the power to build their own super caps or buy thier super caps in a safe way.
I urge CCP to make this change because I think I have a strong case.
Looking forward for replys
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Nyalnara
AdAstra. Beach Club
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Posted - 2015.10.11 18:19:37 -
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Sahulea wrote:So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps...
Chribba. Just saying. Cribba is safe, and if you don't want to use a third party, you deserve to be scammed.
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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 18:23:08 -
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Nyalnara wrote:[quote=Sahulea]So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps...
Chribba. Just saying. Cribba is safe
Chribba is not safe as long as hes got the free will to turn around anytime he wants to say thats it ..your 100 bil is mine now. |
Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 18:27:48 -
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[/quote] if you don't want to use a third party, you deserve to be scammed.[/quote]
What do you mean? a third party is not safe all together why would I want to use it? as long as the posibility exists its not safe.
I would really like to hear the opinion of people that got scamed already.
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.10.11 18:42:30 -
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Sahulea wrote:Nyalnara wrote:Sahulea wrote:So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps... Chribba. Just saying. Cribba is safe Chribba is not safe as long as hes got the free will to turn around anytime he wants to say thats it ..your 100 bil is mine now. Has this ever happened and just how likely is it? Bearing in mind he makes far more being honest, than breaking his word and never being trusted again. So no.
Edit: Oh and reported. Please don't cross post.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 19:03:46 -
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Mag's wrote:Sahulea wrote:Nyalnara wrote:Sahulea wrote:So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps... Chribba. Just saying. Cribba is safe Chribba is not safe as long as hes got the free will to turn around anytime he wants to say thats it ..your 100 bil is mine now. Has this ever happened and just how likely is it? Bearing in mind he makes far more being honest, than breaking his word and never being trusted again. So no. Edit: Oh and reported. Please don't cross post.
I CANNOT STRESS THIS LONG ENOUGH....AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT BUY A SUPER ON A MARKET SAFELY JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE POSIBILITY TO GET SCAMED EXISTS ITS NOT SAFE
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
8778
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Posted - 2015.10.11 19:51:00 -
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Sahulea wrote:Mag's wrote:Sahulea wrote:Nyalnara wrote:Sahulea wrote:So what i propose is a safe way of buying super caps... Chribba. Just saying. Cribba is safe Chribba is not safe as long as hes got the free will to turn around anytime he wants to say thats it ..your 100 bil is mine now. Has this ever happened and just how likely is it? Bearing in mind he makes far more being honest, than breaking his word and never being trusted again. So no. Edit: Oh and reported. Please don't cross post. I CANNOT STRESS THIS LONG ENOUGH....AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT BUY A SUPER ON A MARKET SAFELY JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE POSIBILITY TO GET SCAMED EXISTS ITS NOT SAFE Have you at all considered the possibility of, "that's the point."
You are trying to buy something that is, for all intents and purposes, an alliance level asset. It is not supposed to be easily moved, sold, or stored.
-1 for this idea. Being a trusted 3rd party trader is good profession and a good example of how reputation is supposed to matter in this game.
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 20:10:03 -
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I CANNOT STRESS THIS LONG ENOUGH....AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT BUY A SUPER ON A MARKET SAFELY JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE POSIBILITY TO GET SCAMED EXISTS ITS NOT SAFE [/quote] Have you at all considered the possibility of, "that's the point."
You are trying to buy something that is, for all intents and purposes, an alliance level asset.
I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one? Thats my point...I wanna build supers without having to have sov. or buy a super safly without the danger of being scamed
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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 20:32:36 -
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Sahulea wrote: I CANNOT STRESS THIS LONG ENOUGH....AS LONG AS YOU CANNOT BUY A SUPER ON A MARKET SAFELY JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE POSIBILITY TO GET SCAMED EXISTS ITS NOT SAFE
Have you at all considered the possibility of, "that's the point."
You are trying to buy something that is, for all intents and purposes, an alliance level asset.
I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one? Thats my point...I wanna build supers without having to have sov. or buy a super safly without the danger of being scamed [/quote]
Ok so nobody supports my case?? Jesus I feel like I-¦ve only been talking to alliance members and leaders that have sov. in null sec and thrid party service providers. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
8778
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Posted - 2015.10.11 20:34:02 -
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Sahulea wrote:I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one? Thats my point...I wanna build supers without having to have sov. or buy a super safly without the danger of being scamed So your point is that you want to be able to build or buy a giant space coffin without having to risk yourself or your alliance?
Nope.
For the same reason you can't have a POCO or POS without having a corporation... or build/buy regular capitals without being in low/null-sec... or own SOV without having an alliance... or build a Supercap without owning SOV... or buy a supercap without having to go through 3rd party traders...
if you want more powerful assets... you have to put yourself at increasingly higher levels of risk and the possibility of failure.
This is a theme in the game. Get over yourself. You are no more entitled than I am to score a kill... or mine in safety... or not fall prey to scams... or have the market manipulated under you... or not be gouged out... or have your way of doing things disrupted... etc.
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 23:17:48 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Sahulea wrote:I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one? Thats my point...I wanna build supers without having to have sov. or buy a super safly without the danger of being scamed So your point is that you want to be able to build or buy a giant space coffin without having to risk yourself or your alliance? Nope. For the same reason you can't have a POCO or POS without having a corporation... or build/buy regular capitals without being in low/null-sec... or own SOV without having an alliance... or build a Supercap without owning SOV... or buy a supercap without having to go through 3rd party traders... if you want more powerful assets... you have to put yourself at increasingly higher levels of risk and the possibility of failure. This is a theme in the game. Get over yourself. You are no more entitled than I am to score a kill... or mine in safety... or not fall prey to scams... or have the market manipulated under you... or not be gouged out... or have your way of doing things disrupted... etc.
Everything you mentioned above, apart from the section -¦-¦or buy a supercap-¦-¦ has nothing to do with the subject in talks also erelevant so no point in bringing them up because they cannot be examples to your pointless say, and I-¦m gonna explain why.
None of your examples above have any relevance to the danger of being scamed for 20 bil isk to 100 bil isk ok?
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.11 23:27:32 -
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Sahulea wrote:
I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one?
You can. The same way anyone else can: Take SOV, get the strategic index up far enough, install the relevant ihub upgrades, put a CSAA on a POS and build your super.
Why should you be able to build the things in complete safety, let alone trade and store them? |
Sahulea
The Constantins Constantin Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.11 23:33:06 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Sahulea wrote:
I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one?
You can. The same way anyone else can: Take SOV, get the strategic index up far enough, install the relevant ihub upgrades, put a CSAA on a POS and build your super. Why should you be able to build the things in complete safety, let alone trade and store them?
Because my alliance is not big enough to take Sov. and it will never get big enough to take Sov. Thats my point why shouldn-¦t small alliances be able to build thier own supers? Why only the big allinaces should have that power?
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
8779
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Posted - 2015.10.12 04:18:38 -
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Sahulea wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Sahulea wrote:
I got my own alliance ....If its for all intents and purposes an alliance level asset why can-¦t i build one?
You can. The same way anyone else can: Take SOV, get the strategic index up far enough, install the relevant ihub upgrades, put a CSAA on a POS and build your super. Why should you be able to build the things in complete safety, let alone trade and store them? Because my alliance is not big enough to take Sov. and it will never get big enough to take Sov. Thats my point why shouldn-¦t small alliances be able to build thier own supers? Why only the big allinaces should have that power? Because you aren't risking as much as they are.
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.10.12 04:23:07 -
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Lieutenant Commander
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