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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:01:06 -
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Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?
On another forum there was a discussion about selling wormhole locations. Are some wormholes permanent? Where? In nullsec only? I can't see the purpose of attempting to sell a wormhole location if most of them expire in less than 24 hours. Yes, yes, I know some last longer but I have visited around 50 wormholes already and I have not encountered one that will last more than 24 hours.
Thank you for responding civilly. |
ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach. Outnumbered.
454
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:02:34 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?
On another forum there was a discussion about selling wormhole locations. Are some wormholes permanent? Where? In nullsec only? I can't see the purpose of attempting to sell a wormhole location if most of them expire in less than 24 hours. Yes, yes, I know some last longer but I have visited around 50 wormholes already and I have not encountered one that will last more than 24 hours.
Thank you for responding civilly. The sellers place a probing char in the wh to find exits until they have a buyer, or until they give up selling it
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Nerapa
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
44
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:22:46 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?
On another forum there was a discussion about selling wormhole locations. Are some wormholes permanent? Where? In nullsec only? I can't see the purpose of attempting to sell a wormhole location if most of them expire in less than 24 hours. Yes, yes, I know some last longer but I have visited around 50 wormholes already and I have not encountered one that will last more than 24 hours.
Thank you for responding civilly.
The Wormhole entrance/exit despawns within 24hrs. The same WH will then reopen someone else in new eden.
If you for example scanned down a WH and left yourself logged off in that WH for a few days - You log in and scan down the next exit. Voila. Same WH different entrance/exit.
WH's have "statics" which means they will always connect to a certain area of space or certain type of WH.
for example a Class 1 WH might have a hisec static which means that WH will ALWAYS have at least 1 connection to hi security space. |
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:34:05 -
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Nerapa wrote:Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?
On another forum there was a discussion about selling wormhole locations. Are some wormholes permanent? Where? In nullsec only? I can't see the purpose of attempting to sell a wormhole location if most of them expire in less than 24 hours. Yes, yes, I know some last longer but I have visited around 50 wormholes already and I have not encountered one that will last more than 24 hours.
Thank you for responding civilly. The Wormhole entrance/exit despawns within 24hrs. The same WH will then reopen someone else in new eden. If you for example scanned down a WH and left yourself logged off in that WH for a few days - You log in and scan down the next exit. Voila. Same WH different entrance/exit. WH's have "statics" which means they will always connect to a certain area of space or certain type of WH. for example a Class 1 WH might have a hisec static which means that WH will ALWAYS have at least 1 connection to hi security space.
Hmm, but that same wormhole could re-spawn in ANY hi-sec system or does it remain in the same region? Thanks for your replies!
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ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach. Outnumbered.
455
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Posted - 2015.10.12 13:38:20 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Nerapa wrote:Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?
On another forum there was a discussion about selling wormhole locations. Are some wormholes permanent? Where? In nullsec only? I can't see the purpose of attempting to sell a wormhole location if most of them expire in less than 24 hours. Yes, yes, I know some last longer but I have visited around 50 wormholes already and I have not encountered one that will last more than 24 hours.
Thank you for responding civilly. The Wormhole entrance/exit despawns within 24hrs. The same WH will then reopen someone else in new eden. If you for example scanned down a WH and left yourself logged off in that WH for a few days - You log in and scan down the next exit. Voila. Same WH different entrance/exit. WH's have "statics" which means they will always connect to a certain area of space or certain type of WH. for example a Class 1 WH might have a hisec static which means that WH will ALWAYS have at least 1 connection to hi security space. Hmm, but that same wormhole could re-spawn in ANY hi-sec system or does it remain in the same region? Thanks for your replies! Any high sec.
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1240
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Posted - 2015.10.12 15:20:45 -
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Moved to the Wormholes board.
ISD Decoy
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
2821
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Posted - 2015.10.13 02:38:07 -
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Thanks, ISD Decoy. Thanks.
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Liebe Pastry
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2015.10.13 23:32:10 -
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Moved to the Wormhole boards, but only for 24 hours, then the thread closes and opens somewhere else. |
Alundil
Isogen 5
1034
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Posted - 2015.10.14 01:58:17 -
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Liebe Pastry wrote:Moved to the Wormhole boards, but only for 24 hours, then the thread closes and opens somewhere else. It's been well over 24hours. The life on this one is a little wonky.
I'm right behind you
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Verdis deMosays
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:43:22 -
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Hasn't reached critical mass, due to lack of posts.
Want to try and roll it?
Also, OP, some wormhole static combinations are very lucrative. A carebear corp would love a C2 with highsec statics. A pvp corp might prefer having low and/or null statics. So if you find the right one that's uninhabited, it can be worth selling. |
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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.15 13:03:14 -
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Verdis deMosays wrote:Hasn't reached critical mass, due to lack of posts.
Want to try and roll it?
Also, OP, some wormhole static combinations are very lucrative. A carebear corp would love a C2 with highsec statics. A pvp corp might prefer having low and/or null statics. So if you find the right one that's uninhabited, it can be worth selling.
I automatically scan each time I enter a wormhole and none them have been uninhabited. I haven' counted but I've entered around 50. |
Jezza McWaffle
Isogen 5
253
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Posted - 2015.10.15 14:00:39 -
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Im still struggling to understand at all what you mean by "Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?"
And 50 wormholes, awww so young.
EVE's worst badass
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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.15 21:25:34 -
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Jezza McWaffle wrote:Im still struggling to understand at all what you mean by "Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?"
And 50 wormholes, awww so young.
When I scan using probes, combat, relic and wormholes are located after I scan them down. On numerous occasions, other ships show up in these areas but not at the wormholes. Also often when I open up the scan screen, there are already locations listed in them that other people have obviously scanned down.
I never see previously scanned wormholes by other explorers. Also the first time I located a wormhole I announced it in local. They said no one else could see that wormhole unless I shared a bookmark.
So - other sites are shared in a system but wormholes are not. Why is this?
Was this clear? Thanks! |
Jack Miton
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
4715
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Posted - 2015.10.15 22:25:43 -
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https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on...
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Hippinse
University of Caille Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2015.10.16 11:27:29 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jezza McWaffle wrote:Im still struggling to understand at all what you mean by "Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?"
And 50 wormholes, awww so young. When I scan using probes, combat, relic and wormholes are located after I scan them down. On numerous occasions, other ships show up in these areas but not at the wormholes. Also often when I open up the scan screen, there are already locations listed in them that other people have obviously scanned down. I never see previously scanned wormholes by other explorers. Also the first time I located a wormhole I announced it in local. They said no one else could see that wormhole unless I shared a bookmark. So - other sites are shared in a system but wormholes are not. Why is this? Was this clear? Thanks!
The only time bookmarks are automatically "shared" (not counting random delays) is when all parties are part of the same corporation. When the other ships show up in those areas, they've scanned them down.
If you were exploded but didn't see probes, it's possible that someone had already scanned those sites before you came along. They used dscan to spot you and determine which site you were in, and then warped to the bookmark they'd already made. (Or they're really skilled at probing and you weren't dscanning in a paranoid enough fashion.) |
Viggo Konstanin
Midnight Rejects
55
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:04:28 -
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Give it up, there is only so much Google Translate can do. |
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:34:57 -
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Jack Miton wrote:https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on...
What a dumb and horrible comment you have made.
Combat sites often show up on the scan grid and I didn't scan them. Just because you don't understand something does not mean you need to post insults.
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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:36:32 -
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Viggo Konstanin wrote:Give it up, there is only so much Google Translate can do.
Someday you will grow up and a kid will post a similar stupid comment to you. |
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.16 12:38:22 -
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Hippinse wrote:Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jezza McWaffle wrote:Im still struggling to understand at all what you mean by "Why is it that when we scan, combat and relic sites can be seen by all but wormholes are not shared?"
And 50 wormholes, awww so young. When I scan using probes, combat, relic and wormholes are located after I scan them down. On numerous occasions, other ships show up in these areas but not at the wormholes. Also often when I open up the scan screen, there are already locations listed in them that other people have obviously scanned down. I never see previously scanned wormholes by other explorers. Also the first time I located a wormhole I announced it in local. They said no one else could see that wormhole unless I shared a bookmark. So - other sites are shared in a system but wormholes are not. Why is this? Was this clear? Thanks! The only time bookmarks are automatically "shared" (not counting random delays) is when all parties are part of the same corporation. When the other ships show up in those areas, they've scanned them down. If you were exploded but didn't see probes, it's possible that someone had already scanned those sites before you came along. They used dscan to spot you and determine which site you were in, and then warped to the bookmark they'd already made. (Or they're really skilled at probing and you weren't dscanning in a paranoid enough fashion.)
I guess when others in a same corporation scan down sites, they automatically appear. Thanks.
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1464
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:00:28 -
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another mess of a thread thanks ISD
to the guy whining like a big babby: gitgud kiddo
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Jezza McWaffle
Isogen 5
253
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Posted - 2015.10.16 14:55:13 -
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Usually I help people but in this case I have no clue what you are on about what so ever.
EVE's worst badass
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Viggo Konstanin
Midnight Rejects
55
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Posted - 2015.10.16 16:19:54 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jack Miton wrote:https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on... What a dumb and horrible comment you have made. Combat sites often show up on the scan grid and I didn't scan them. Just because you don't understand something does not mean you need to post insults.
Try asking here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=288
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Duo Roman
Warp Nomads
0
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Posted - 2015.10.16 16:49:24 -
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Kennedy Lincoln:
There are 2 different types of sites you see in the scan window. "Cosmic Anomalies" - These can be "Combat Sites" or ore "sites". The location of these sites are available to anyone in the system and do not need to be scanned. "Cosmic Signatures" - These can be "Combat sites", "Relic or Data" sites, "Gas" sites, "Wormholes". These are sites which the exact location needs to be scanned down using Probes.
There is nothing "shared" between corp members on the Scanning window. Bookmarks otherwise, can be shared, but this is not related to your original question. |
Jack Miton
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
4715
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Posted - 2015.10.17 22:46:47 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jack Miton wrote:https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on... What a dumb and horrible comment you have made. Combat sites often show up on the scan grid and I didn't scan them. Just because you don't understand something does not mean you need to post insults. its not my fault you havent bothered to look up the very basics of how scanning works
There is no Bob.
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Zand Vor
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
13
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Posted - 2015.10.18 03:54:43 -
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OP, I believe you are confusing the difference between Signatures and Anomalies.
Anomalies are available to everyone. These are limited to only Combat and Ore sites. Signatures require to be probed down. All wormholes are signatures, as are Relic/Data sites.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cosmic_Anomaly#Wormhole_Space https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cosmic_Signatures
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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:06:02 -
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Duo Roman wrote:Kennedy Lincoln:
There are 2 different types of sites you see in the scan window. "Cosmic Anomalies" - These can be "Combat Sites" or ore "sites". The location of these sites are available to anyone in the system and do not need to be scanned. "Cosmic Signatures" - These can be "Combat sites", "Relic or Data" sites, "Gas" sites, "Wormholes". These are sites which the exact location needs to be scanned down using Probes.
There is nothing "shared" between corp members on the Scanning window. Bookmarks otherwise, can be shared, but this is not related to your original question.
Thank you for this explanation. I didn't know this. |
Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:06:59 -
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Thank you. You are correct. I didn't know the difference. Danke!
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Kennedy Lincoln
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.10.18 15:09:21 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jack Miton wrote:https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on... What a dumb and horrible comment you have made. Combat sites often show up on the scan grid and I didn't scan them. Just because you don't understand something does not mean you need to post insults. its not my fault you havent bothered to look up the very basics of how scanning works
UGH. It is your mother's fault for not teaching you to respect other people. I am 100% sure that there is at least one item of information that I know that you do not.
You should learn that asking questions is a sign of intelligence. Not asking is a sign of a weak character. |
Jack Miton
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
4715
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Posted - 2015.10.18 22:18:54 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:UGH. It is your mother's fault for not teaching you to respect other people. I am 100% sure that there is at least one item of information that I know that you do not. respect is earned. and I kinda doubt it.
There is no Bob.
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1465
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:53:06 -
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Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Kennedy Lincoln wrote:Jack Miton wrote:https://youtu.be/uJLQ5DHmw-U?t=1m8s
Site do not get shared automatically... I have no idea wtf you are on... What a dumb and horrible comment you have made. Combat sites often show up on the scan grid and I didn't scan them. Just because you don't understand something does not mean you need to post insults. its not my fault you havent bothered to look up the very basics of how scanning works UGH. It is your mother's fault for not teaching you to respect other people. I am 100% sure that there is at least one item of information that I know that you do not. You should learn that asking questions is a sign of intelligence. Not asking is a sign of a weak character. obviously that piece of information isn't how to make a good post
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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