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Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.12 19:47:36 -
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Hi C&P,
Just in case you guys don't reddit, ISK doubling scams etc involving fabricated/fake APIs are now considered an offense as of today.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/notice-concerning-scams-citing-the-wallet-api/
I know the regulars on here probably don't engage in such low-class activities anyways, but thought you guys might want to know.
YS |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12418
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Posted - 2015.10.12 19:53:30 -
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Correctionthe article wrote: Do not perform scams which rely on fabricated API data from now on.
Any scam involving falsifying api data.
Better the Devil you know.
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Dark Renegade
Hillarity Ensues
23
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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:21:09 -
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Player 1: "I've got an API that updates, so that makes me legit!.. look go to this completely unbelievable link that shows it."
Player 2: "I sent you isk and it hasn't shown up"
Player 1: "It takes 3 hours to update.. Thats kinda in my post Brah! come back later."
Player 2: "Hey, its been 3 1/2 hours now.. and it still isnt on there.. plus you never sent me my isk! and what the hell is "brah"?"
Player 1: "Listen man, it'll update ok!.. and Brah is a cool word that only non-posers know! poser!"
Player 2: "You scamming P.O.S! I see it on there.. the isk I sent you and now youre telling people that you sent me isk back!"
Player 1: "Brah.... I did send it! It takes 3 hours.. jeesh."
Player 2: "WTF???! man?! that doesn't even make sense!"
Player 1: "Neither does a guy giving away his isk for free.. BRAH!"
Player 2: "Oh....."
This has been a look at the day and life of the API backed isk scammer. Brought to you by Dark Renegade.
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
3811
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Posted - 2015.10.12 22:53:27 -
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CCP, if you want me to quit, please just send me an EVEmail.
No, I dont scam (at least not with that) but the reason EVE has lasted so long is because people LIKE the fact that scamming is allowed.
Come on guys, you are killing your own game. Every one of these pointless nerfs is making the game lose some of the luster that made it great. And for what? A carebear who was stupid enough to fall for an "API VERIFIED ISK DOUBLER"?? So we can keep his sub until he reaches the point where he is running level 4 missions in a Golem in highsec, and quits, because he is now bored playing ISK grider online?
Stop the carnage! Elite Dangerous is looking more attractive each day... maybe I need to brush up on my flying skills.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2106
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Posted - 2015.10.13 00:20:49 -
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Leto Thule wrote:CCP, if you want me to quit, please just send me an EVEmail.
No, I dont scam (at least not with that) but the reason EVE has lasted so long is because people LIKE the fact that scamming is allowed.
Come on guys, you are killing your own game. Every one of these pointless nerfs is making the game lose some of the luster that made it great. And for what? A carebear who was stupid enough to fall for an "API VERIFIED ISK DOUBLER"?? So we can keep his sub until he reaches the point where he is running level 4 missions in a Golem in highsec, and quits, because he is now bored playing ISK grider online?
Stop the carnage! Elite Dangerous is looking more attractive each day... maybe I need to brush up on my flying skills. This one is legit. Quite honestly claim it must be a bug go ticket CCP it would still be around. It's probably the difference in keeping a coder on staff or firing him to add another complaints guy
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2015.10.13 00:28:18 -
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The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
3814
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:29:41 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine.
Look mate, I'm not saying the script kiddies are badass, I'm saying you have to be a complete idiot to fall for that crap, and if you lose your ISK because you think its API verified, you are still dumber than the script kiddies.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2106
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:39:34 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine. Look mate, I'm not saying the script kiddies are badass, I'm saying you have to be a complete idiot to fall for that crap, and if you lose your ISK because you think its API verified, you are still dumber than the script kiddies. Agreed but this wasn't about nerfing a game style so much as reducing work load
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:50:14 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine. Look mate, I'm not saying the script kiddies are badass, I'm saying you have to be a complete idiot to fall for that crap, and if you lose your ISK because you think its API verified, you are still dumber than the script kiddies.
I never said nor suggested otherwise. If banning this sort of scam reduces some of the unnecessary workload for CCP, that's A Good Thing(tm).
The glorious scams, the true Oceans 11 or Grifter style heists and long-con jobs are still all perfectly fine and dandy.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
465
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Posted - 2015.10.13 01:53:38 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine. Look mate, I'm not saying the script kiddies are badass, I'm saying you have to be a complete idiot to fall for that crap, and if you lose your ISK because you think its API verified, you are still dumber than the script kiddies. Agreed but this wasn't about nerfing a game style so much as reducing work load You gonna say with a straight face that ccp's ticket handling and petition and customer service are freaking top notch and very time/resource consuming??
Any ticket that comes in with "api verified" in text, have auto reply of "Dude ypur client isnt bugged. You got scammed. Also our logs show nothing but you being legally scammed."
Boom fixed.
Lol like removing this is really gonna save ccp freaking meaningful money and resources. ... sure.... |
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
194
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Posted - 2015.10.13 02:09:21 -
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This seems like a no brainer. Why support or allow something that creates a lot of wasted time for GM's?
HTFU
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
3815
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Posted - 2015.10.13 04:16:59 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:This seems like a no brainer. Why support or allow something that creates a lot of wasted time for GM's?
Like Ganking? Careful with that...
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
196
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:03:38 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:This seems like a no brainer. Why support or allow something that creates a lot of wasted time for GM's? Like Ganking? Careful with that... Heh I was just talked with a friend earlier this evening about the number of people that claim to be recording or taking screenshots during a certain event. I'm a different breed though man... I really enjoy ganking an it's the most isk I've ever made doing something this fun, but I can and will adapt or move on. I have a long list of other things I want to do in eve, so I'm just milking my current cow till the tit is dry.
I see a lot of self-entitled people that cry about nerfs and changes and I just laugh. If I ever get to a point where I'm all out of fun or am a bitter vet, then I'm out. Too many only think about their small bubble or activity they live in to see a larger picture of why CCP may be doing something. Unfortunately a large part of those people are the content creators that just get upset when CCP nerfs something.
HTFU
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12425
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:11:33 -
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In all fairness, they're banning the crap that discredits their own api in the eyes of new / dumb players and gives the gm's headaches, not much more.
It's a qol change for the gms really with the added bonus that the spammers will now have to actually use whit and confidence rather than just going "look api, I no lies , double all de isks".
Better the Devil you know.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Black Hydra Consortium.
2042
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:18:23 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Mephiztopheleze wrote:The list of banned activities in this game is still miniscule by any measure. This will simply weed out a few of the talentless, script-kiddy Jita spammers. Scams worth bragging about appear to remain just fine. Look mate, I'm not saying the script kiddies are badass, I'm saying you have to be a complete idiot to fall for that crap, and if you lose your ISK because you think its API verified, you are still dumber than the script kiddies. Agreed but this wasn't about nerfing a game style so much as reducing work load You gonna say with a straight face that ccp's ticket handling and petition and customer service are freaking top notch and very time/resource consuming?? Any ticket that comes in with "api verified" in text, have auto reply of "Dude ypur client isnt bugged. You got scammed. Also our logs show nothing but you being legally scammed." Boom fixed. Lol like removing this is really gonna save ccp freaking meaningful money and resources. ... sure.... CCP has been making gains on that end in the past few months. This is probably part of that endeavor. Also, I'm suprised this is still letting me post as I think my account is inactive now.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1650
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Posted - 2015.10.13 08:31:09 -
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i endorse this product or service
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3418
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Posted - 2015.10.13 09:14:15 -
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Another hoop for content creators to jump through. $5 says that a dev or GM actually *gasp* logged into the game and ended up losing their isk.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
3821
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Posted - 2015.10.13 11:57:34 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:This seems like a no brainer. Why support or allow something that creates a lot of wasted time for GM's? Like Ganking? Careful with that... Heh I was just talking with a friend earlier this evening about the number of people that claim to be recording or taking screenshots during a certain event. I'm a different breed though man... I really enjoy ganking an it's the most isk I've ever made doing something this fun, but I can and will adapt or move on. I have a long list of other things I want to do in eve, so I'm just milking my current cow till the tit is dry. I see a lot of self-entitled people that cry about nerfs and changes and I just laugh. If I ever get to a point where I'm all out of fun or am a bitter vet, then I'm out. Too many only think about their small bubble or activity they live in to see a larger picture of why CCP may be doing something. Unfortunately a large part of those people are the content creators that just get upset when CCP nerfs something.
I'm not really a content creator, but yeah I do get pissed when needs come down the chain becuase I like the atmosphere EVE previously had. Watching idiots get scammed was part of that, and now that we have given the crybears an inch, they want an AU.
I'm sorry but I don't buy the qol aspect of this. When I see it, I see some guy who threatened to quit over it and now its banned. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I'm just like you described, sick of nerfs.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Evil Murder Society
66
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Posted - 2015.10.13 12:18:51 -
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If their workload is so bad they could just do what they do whenever I file support tickets and just close them with no response. Problem solved, no need to nerf scam-spammers. Jita would be so lonely without them.
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1652
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Posted - 2015.10.13 12:40:14 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:If their workload is so bad they could just do what they do whenever I file support tickets and just close them with no response. Problem solved, no need to nerf scam-spammers. Jita would be so lonely without them.
its not really workload its the fact people are saying the game is broken because the scammers are saying its an api issue, its just removing the problem, you cant impersonate a ccp employee so why should you be able to fake api data then blame ccp
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Evil Murder Society
67
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Posted - 2015.10.13 12:57:42 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:If their workload is so bad they could just do what they do whenever I file support tickets and just close them with no response. Problem solved, no need to nerf scam-spammers. Jita would be so lonely without them. its not really workload its the fact people are saying the game is broken because the scammers are saying its an api issue, its just removing the problem, you cant impersonate a ccp employee so why should you be able to fake api data then blame ccp
Why not? If it isn't the workload issue then they are fixing something that ain't broke. I think we should be able to impersonate CCPs too, that would be great fun.
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1653
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Posted - 2015.10.13 13:04:53 -
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well it clearly is broke otherwise they wouldnt change it...
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Faylee Freir
The Conference Elite CODE.
200
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Posted - 2015.10.13 13:29:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:This seems like a no brainer. Why support or allow something that creates a lot of wasted time for GM's? Like Ganking? Careful with that... Heh I was just talking with a friend earlier this evening about the number of people that claim to be recording or taking screenshots during a certain event. I'm a different breed though man... I really enjoy ganking an it's the most isk I've ever made doing something this fun, but I can and will adapt or move on. I have a long list of other things I want to do in eve, so I'm just milking my current cow till the tit is dry. I see a lot of self-entitled people that cry about nerfs and changes and I just laugh. If I ever get to a point where I'm all out of fun or am a bitter vet, then I'm out. Too many only think about their small bubble or activity they live in to see a larger picture of why CCP may be doing something. Unfortunately a large part of those people are the content creators that just get upset when CCP nerfs something. I'm not really a content creator, but yeah I do get pissed when needs come down the chain becuase I like the atmosphere EVE previously had. Watching idiots get scammed was part of that, and now that we have given the crybears an inch, they want an AU. I'm sorry but I don't buy the qol aspect of this. When I see it, I see some guy who threatened to quit over it and now its banned. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I'm just like you described, sick of nerfs. That was not aimed at you btw. No one likes it when their particular thing gets nerfed or removed. I'm just saying that a lot of people kneejerk into anti-CCP mode when they should be a little less selfish and look at the whole picture.
HTFU
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Evil Murder Society
67
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Posted - 2015.10.13 13:36:20 -
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Lan Wang wrote:well it clearly is broke otherwise they wouldnt change it...
Ah yes of course. Carry on CCP!
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1654
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Posted - 2015.10.13 13:39:08 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:Lan Wang wrote:well it clearly is broke otherwise they wouldnt change it... Ah yes of course. Carry on CCP!
Im sure they will
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Thermal Damage
Refit For Thermal Overheat.
10
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Posted - 2015.10.13 14:21:33 -
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No big deal.
'#heatfleet'
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Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2015.10.15 18:03:08 -
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Hi C&P friends, just a friendly bump in case you guys haven't heard about the SP buying announcement on reddit. More like extract from one char and inject into another. Go read!
Love, YS |
Thermal Damage
Refit For Thermal Overheat.
15
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:53:01 -
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Yong Shin wrote:Hi C&P friends, just a friendly bump in case you guys haven't heard about the SP buying announcement on reddit. More like extract from one char and inject into another. Go read!
Love, YS
Whats a reddit?
-#heatfleet
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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3842
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Posted - 2015.10.15 20:55:09 -
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Yong Shin wrote:Hi C&P friends, just a friendly bump in case you guys haven't heard about the SP buying announcement on reddit. More like extract from one char and inject into another. Go read!
Love, YS
I'm kinda meh about it. If it passes in, I'll be a skill point sucking vampire. If not, oh well.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2015.10.15 21:42:27 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Yong Shin wrote:Hi C&P friends, just a friendly bump in case you guys haven't heard about the SP buying announcement on reddit. More like extract from one char and inject into another. Go read!
Love, YS I'm kinda meh about it. If it passes in, I'll be a skill point sucking vampire. If not, oh well.
That's good to hear~ I worried you might have a heart attack in front of your computer upon reading the post |
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