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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
4148
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Posted - 2015.10.14 15:01:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:I like the IGB. I use it for quick google searches and what not. Also browsing the forums. All while i still have my game up. I actually try to alt-b in other games and always end up disappointed... I am very much the same...if CCP removes IGB id be upset..rly upset
Good thing I have a bunker to hide in? It is happening so a better plan is to clearly communicate what features are most used. Although we do track what features are being used so we already have a good idea of what needs to be replaced feature wise before we remove the IGB.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
10086
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Posted - 2015.10.14 18:58:16 -
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IGB is practical because you can read about EVE lore or chronicles and play the game at the same time while mining.
Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2785
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Posted - 2015.10.14 19:30:16 -
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Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is crest two-way interaction now? |
Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
13
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Posted - 2015.10.14 19:36:26 -
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Rowells wrote:Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is crest two-way interaction now?
Seems to be on some level. Yes it surprised me as well but our Dev Friend whos hanging out with us actually linked a video where she could make changes in a third party program that would effect her account on the client. Such as ship fits.
There really is only one down side to crest.
Im going to have to learn how the back end works so I can upgrade a few sites I have IGB scripting in :P
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Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1182
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Posted - 2015.10.14 22:41:07 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:In that case that will be very interesting to see. I hope there's a heck of a lot of security options around it though. I don't want to log into a website via crest then find fitting spam all over my screen or see autopiloters diverted into camps because they signed up for a 3rd party service through CREST.
Why would you not want that? I totally want that.
Can you imagine that mayhem?
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Adaris
63
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Posted - 2015.10.14 22:58:49 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:IGB is practical because you can read about EVE lore or chronicles and play the game at the same time while mining.
In a way, perhaps this might be an impetus for CCP to develop a more integrated way of bring that lore into the game. Heck, I'd even settle for a 'related articles' tab when showing info on factions/npc corps/systems etc.
I for one welcome our new CREST overlords.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
14
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Posted - 2015.10.15 01:48:24 -
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Glathull wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:In that case that will be very interesting to see. I hope there's a heck of a lot of security options around it though. I don't want to log into a website via crest then find fitting spam all over my screen or see autopiloters diverted into camps because they signed up for a 3rd party service through CREST. Why would you not want that? I totally want that. Can you imagine that mayhem?
YAY MAYHEM just think of all the new gank methods. I could create a totally legit Anti gank website with suggested routes (changed on a daily basis) each one camped by my friends !
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
14
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Posted - 2015.10.15 01:50:06 -
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Adaris wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:IGB is practical because you can read about EVE lore or chronicles and play the game at the same time while mining. In a way, perhaps this might be an impetus for CCP to develop a more integrated way of bring that lore into the game. Heck, I'd even settle for a 'related articles' tab when showing info on factions/npc corps/systems etc. I for one welcome our new CREST overlords.
I completely agree with you in every way. Since the Dev came in im not so awwww IGB don't go as I was.
But still I would like urls to auto link but instead of opening in an IGB open in your default browser. Its not like i have a shortage of monitors :P
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3417
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Posted - 2015.10.15 04:19:26 -
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replace the IGB with an ingame picture viewer and nobody would even notice ;)
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16807
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Posted - 2015.10.15 04:32:18 -
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Bienator II wrote:replace the IGB with an ingame picture viewer and nobody would even notice ;)
I play lemmings on the in game browser
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
388
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Posted - 2015.10.15 04:57:59 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:IGB is practical because you can read about EVE lore or chronicles and play the game at the same time while mining.
U wot now? |
Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
14
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Posted - 2015.10.15 05:06:37 -
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Tisi Tisi Tisi,
Oi Oi Oi
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1576
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Posted - 2015.10.15 14:00:58 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:I like the IGB. I use it for quick google searches and what not. Also browsing the forums. All while i still have my game up. I actually try to alt-b in other games and always end up disappointed... I am very much the same...if CCP removes IGB id be upset..rly upset Good thing I have a bunker to hide in? It is happening so a better plan is to clearly communicate what features are most used. Although we do track what features are being used so we already have a good idea of what needs to be replaced feature wise before we remove the IGB. Let me add here ...
I'm playing EvE on one monitor, fullscreen to get maximum space and performance. So whatever replaces the IGB must preserve the ability to open web content in a in-game window. That's all. But according to what I read so far, it's not planned to support fullscreen/one monitor setups anymore.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
14
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Posted - 2015.10.15 16:11:19 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:I like the IGB. I use it for quick google searches and what not. Also browsing the forums. All while i still have my game up. I actually try to alt-b in other games and always end up disappointed... I am very much the same...if CCP removes IGB id be upset..rly upset Good thing I have a bunker to hide in? It is happening so a better plan is to clearly communicate what features are most used. Although we do track what features are being used so we already have a good idea of what needs to be replaced feature wise before we remove the IGB. Let me add here ... I'm playing EvE on one monitor, fullscreen to get maximum space and performance. So whatever replaces the IGB must preserve the ability to open web content in a in-game window. That's all. But according to what I read so far, it's not planned to support fullscreen/one monitor setups anymore.
Remember every thing you have seen in here should be considered speculation and prediction But from what I understand any workable solution would not support one monitor. I must say I used 3-5 when playing eve don't know how you cope :P
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1602
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:58:48 -
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Samuel the Terrible wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:I like the IGB. I use it for quick google searches and what not. Also browsing the forums. All while i still have my game up. I actually try to alt-b in other games and always end up disappointed... I am very much the same...if CCP removes IGB id be upset..rly upset Good thing I have a bunker to hide in? It is happening so a better plan is to clearly communicate what features are most used. Although we do track what features are being used so we already have a good idea of what needs to be replaced feature wise before we remove the IGB. Let me add here ... I'm playing EvE on one monitor, fullscreen to get maximum space and performance. So whatever replaces the IGB must preserve the ability to open web content in a in-game window. That's all. But according to what I read so far, it's not planned to support fullscreen/one monitor setups anymore. Remember every thing you have seen in here should be considered speculation and prediction But from what I understand any workable solution would not support one monitor - Great if you are in nullsec, low sec, wh or at high-sec in war! I must say I used 3-5 when playing eve don't know how you cope :P If you have only one account and an IGB you don't need more than one...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
16
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Posted - 2015.10.19 21:16:45 -
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Samuel the Terrible wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:I like the IGB. I use it for quick google searches and what not. Also browsing the forums. All while i still have my game up. I actually try to alt-b in other games and always end up disappointed... I am very much the same...if CCP removes IGB id be upset..rly upset Good thing I have a bunker to hide in? It is happening so a better plan is to clearly communicate what features are most used. Although we do track what features are being used so we already have a good idea of what needs to be replaced feature wise before we remove the IGB. Let me add here ... I'm playing EvE on one monitor, fullscreen to get maximum space and performance. So whatever replaces the IGB must preserve the ability to open web content in a in-game window. That's all. But according to what I read so far, it's not planned to support fullscreen/one monitor setups anymore. Remember every thing you have seen in here should be considered speculation and prediction But from what I understand any workable solution would not support one monitor - Great if you are in nullsec, low sec, wh or at high-sec in war! I must say I used 3-5 when playing eve don't know how you cope :P If you have only one account and an IGB you don't need more than one...
not for long :P
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:19:55 -
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they day igb is gone is the day i quit after ~10 years of playing. and no you can't have my stuff, i'd rather give it to friends than random people. |
Lelira Cirim
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
240
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Posted - 2015.10.19 23:42:33 -
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Hmm. When the IGB is removed, the option for Fixed Window should becomes the default state instead of Fullscreen. This will smooth the experience for many users who don't understand the issues video mode switching has on their computer. New users may believe that EVE pauses when it's in the background. (Don't laugh.)
Quote:First things first, any and all http links (urls) when clicked in game will open in your default browser. Sure put a popup that says you know may lead to dangerous site da da da, but please for the love of god make that message one that can be disabled :)
It is entirely possible for crashes to occur when Fullscreen video modes are switched from 3D to desktop. Malicious links could be used in a fleet fight to have the OOG browser take focus. If that player has a spotty machine, and Fullscreen, and disabled the prompt, he's now out of game for probably 10+ seconds.
Do not actively tank my patience.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
16
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Posted - 2015.10.20 02:29:41 -
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Lelira Cirim wrote:Hmm. When the IGB is removed, the option for Fixed Window should become the default state instead of Fullscreen. This will smooth the experience for many users who don't understand the issues video mode switching has on their computer. New users may believe that EVE pauses when it's in the background. (Don't laugh.) Spotty hardware may freeze. Used to happen to me constantly, hence why I only MMO with my desktop visible. It is entirely possible for crashes or freezes to occur when Fullscreen video modes are switched from 3D to desktop. I was trying the beta launcher today, and my video modes were going crazy. Quote:First things first, any and all http links (urls) when clicked in game will open in your default browser. Sure put a popup that says you know may lead to dangerous site da da da, but please for the love of god make that message one that can be disabled :) If external links don't take focus away from the client, people will believe the links don't work, click multiple times, and will later discover their browser is overloaded with tabs. So if we accept the premise that there is now no prompt for clicking a link that must steal focus from the client, then malicious links could be used in a fleet fight. If that fleet fight player has Fullscreen, and disabled the prompt, he's now out of game for probably 10+ seconds because he didn't check the tooltip. Maybe his hardware is spotty and something freezes. What will that cost? Let's assume no Tidi, and the pilot has enough APM to do PVP while viewing cat pictures. This is how metagaming happens. Being willing to trade a convenience for an uncontrollable consequence.
and if you disable the promt and click on a link you dont know you deserve everything you get :P
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JFKen Imperia
Beyond Frontier Brave Collective
23
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Posted - 2015.10.20 05:05:08 -
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I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself).
Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying
Just an idea... |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
4156
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Posted - 2015.10.20 10:23:52 -
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JFKen Imperia wrote:I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself). Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying Just an idea...
How do you secure it? How do you direct links for character X to client 1? You would need another application installed to handle all of this and direct it to the correct client.
@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Size Matters
Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1602
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Posted - 2015.10.20 11:04:26 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:JFKen Imperia wrote:I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself). Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying Just an idea... How do you secure it? How do you direct links for character X to client 1? You would need another application installed to handle all of this and direct it to the correct client. Hmm, not sure if I understand this reply ... maybe you should describe a bit further how you plan to remove the IGB without breaking one monitor setups?
I don't think the vast majority of EvE players uses 2+ monitors.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
16
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Posted - 2015.10.20 11:06:58 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:JFKen Imperia wrote:I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself). Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying Just an idea... How do you secure it? How do you direct links for character X to client 1? You would need another application installed to handle all of this and direct it to the correct client.
Originally when I posted this I didn't have a good understanding of CREST and to be fair never had time to look for the dev blog you mentioned so haven't learnt much more. that being said based on what you have said I dont have a huge issue with losing the IGB anymore, so long as I can open my URLs. And again for your sake why not make a little disclaimer message that pops up like on the forums so that you can say We are not the owners of this link and not taking any responsibility for what happens.
That way no risk to eve itself and only fools
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Samuel the Terrible
Starfox Initiative PLUR.
16
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Posted - 2015.10.20 11:08:43 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:JFKen Imperia wrote:I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself). Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying Just an idea... How do you secure it? How do you direct links for character X to client 1? You would need another application installed to handle all of this and direct it to the correct client. Hmm, not sure if I understand this reply ... maybe you should describe a bit further how you plan to remove the IGB without breaking one monitor setups? I don't think the vast majority of EvE players uses 2+ monitors.
To be fair most people i know (and ok I live in nullsec where pilots are often flying 4 clients at a time) but you could always run a windowed client and alt tab just not good if your in combat !
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2342
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:51:54 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:
I don't think the vast majority of EvE players uses 2+ monitors.
Based on what? |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1602
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Posted - 2015.10.20 14:18:04 -
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Samuel the Terrible wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:JFKen Imperia wrote:I didn't read this whole topic yet so sorry for eventually repost, but if the IGB is removed in future : why not allow the EVE client to identify URL and allow to open it with the user's default browser, like any software (for example : Doc / PDF readers or even the EVE launcher itself). Directly or thru a right cliclk menu. And most of eve players have at least a Dual Screen configuration, so in the majority of case this would not it be annoying Just an idea... How do you secure it? How do you direct links for character X to client 1? You would need another application installed to handle all of this and direct it to the correct client. Hmm, not sure if I understand this reply ... maybe you should describe a bit further how you plan to remove the IGB without breaking one monitor setups? I don't think the vast majority of EvE players uses 2+ monitors. To be fair most people i know (and ok I live in nullsec where pilots are often flying 4 clients at a time) but you could always run a windowed client and alt tab just not good if your in combat ! Ofc there are always bad workarounds for missing/removed features ... but if I would ship software with a regression like that, our customers would riot.
EDIT: I do not want to retain the outdated IGB browser, but the interaction design connected to it. How this is done, is CCP's job to find out and implement.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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