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Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.15 07:02:08 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=450735&find=unread Meant to ask ISDs to lock a WTS thread. BOnd still on track. |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
14
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Posted - 2015.10.25 04:56:56 -
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OP updated to reflect desire to expand. |
Vanaunge
Deep Space Whaling Crew
5
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Posted - 2015.10.26 14:44:53 -
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If you have collertal and willing to use a 3rd party I can fill the 10B as soon as needed. |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:12:01 -
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Vanaunge wrote:My only concern is ac filled this less than 1 month ago, you have no payment history on this loan as of yet. And your already expanding. That is a very fair concern, and there really isn't anything I can say other than that I acknowledge it. |
Vanaunge
Deep Space Whaling Crew
5
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:13:29 -
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How far do you plan on expanding? I give you 10B and 2 days from now you ask for 20 for more expansion? |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
14
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:20:40 -
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Sent an in-game mail. |
Vanaunge
Deep Space Whaling Crew
5
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Posted - 2015.10.27 00:58:58 -
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Op has confirmed this was all a scam, have the mails to prove it if needed. AC has been informed |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:05:05 -
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Vanaunge wrote:Op has confirmed this was all a scam, have the mails to prove it if needed. AC has been informed No need, I fully admit it. Well played. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5435
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:11:04 -
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Was anyone surprised?
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:16:30 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Was anyone surprised? Me, actually. Going in to the bond I intended to be legitimate, but I folded under the possibility of easy money. |
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
722
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:17:14 -
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I tried. What a shame.
[ 2015.10.14 00:34:20 ] Rind Arji > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=450735&_ga=1.260570893.185691458.1444173283 8b uncollateralized bond gets filled in an hour and a half. n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:31 ] Rind Arji > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6079576#post6079576 1.5b collateralized loan takes 8 hours n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:34 ] Rind Arji > tje jeck? n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:39 ] Rind Arji > *the heck n++[ 2015.10.14 00:35:49 ] Edward Mungrelson > AC155 is a generous person n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:13 ] Edward Mungrelson > He donated 1T to PLEX for good 2 years ago I think it was n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:25 ] Rind Arji > geez n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:27 ] Rind Arji > rich too n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:38 ] Rind Arji > but if I had so much isk i didnt care about it n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:41 ] Rind Arji > id to the same n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:43 ] Edward Mungrelson > he's saving up for the next one at the moment n++[ 2015.10.14 00:37:52 ] Rind Arji > well, I guess the interest from my bond is another 45 bucks for the next disaster then :) n++[ 2015.10.14 00:37:58 ] Edward Mungrelson > exactly
Edward = me, Rind = Zerinia.
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Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
17
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:25:46 -
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Scammers are people too. I just want to state for the record that I am a good person. If you were a new trader, spent 3 weeks trading to make 3 billion, and then someone gave you 8 billion isk with no guarantee, I'm sure some of you reading this would have done the same. I understand now that I have lost any modicum of trust, but please, do not think ill of me as a person. |
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:41:57 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:I tried. What a shame. [ 2015.10.14 00:34:20 ] Rind Arji > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=450735&_ga=1.260570893.185691458.1444173283 8b uncollateralized bond gets filled in an hour and a half. n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:31 ] Rind Arji > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6079576#post6079576 1.5b collateralized loan takes 8 hours n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:34 ] Rind Arji > tje jeck? n++[ 2015.10.14 00:34:39 ] Rind Arji > *the heck n++[ 2015.10.14 00:35:49 ] Edward Mungrelson > AC155 is a generous person n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:13 ] Edward Mungrelson > He donated 1T to PLEX for good 2 years ago I think it was n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:25 ] Rind Arji > geez n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:27 ] Rind Arji > rich too n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:38 ] Rind Arji > but if I had so much isk i didnt care about it n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:41 ] Rind Arji > id to the same n++[ 2015.10.14 00:36:43 ] Edward Mungrelson > he's saving up for the next one at the moment n++[ 2015.10.14 00:37:52 ] Rind Arji > well, I guess the interest from my bond is another 45 bucks for the next disaster then :) n++[ 2015.10.14 00:37:58 ] Edward Mungrelson > exactly
Edward = me, Rind = Zerinia.
What did you try? I don't understand what I'm reading, but I can tell it's good |
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2015.10.27 01:54:52 -
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Zerinia wrote: Scammers are people too. I just want to state for the record that I am a good person. If you were a new trader, spent 3 weeks trading to make 3 billion, and then someone gave you 8 billion isk with no guarantee, I'm sure some of you reading this would have done the same. I understand now that I have lost any modicum of trust, but please, do not think ill of me as a person.
It really is a crying shame, though. You seriously have the most trust-worthy looking portrait I've seen in EVE (if there is such a thing), and it matches perfectly with your corp name. I almost filled the expansion myself, had a brave hero not revealed the scam.
Not to mention I was in the process of mailing "Chmmr Avatar" on my industry character asking if I can get an invite into the corp. Something about the name greatly appealed to me.
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Pridit
Private Ventures
6
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:04:15 -
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Zerinia wrote: Scammers are people too. I just want to state for the record that I am a good person. If you were a new trader, spent 3 weeks trading to make 3 billion, and then someone gave you 8 billion isk with no guarantee, I'm sure some of you reading this would have done the same. I understand now that I have lost any modicum of trust, but please, do not think ill of me as a person.
I'm sorry but that's really no excuse, just because someone "gives" you ISK with no guarantee doesn't mean your best, most logical option is to throw any trust in the trash and just walk with it. It's pretty scummy to do and painfully predictable. Not only do you tarnish your own reputation, you may put off anyone else from placing that same trust in someone who is actually legitimate just looking for capital with no intention to scam.
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Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
17
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:09:48 -
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Pridit wrote:Zerinia wrote: Scammers are people too. I just want to state for the record that I am a good person. If you were a new trader, spent 3 weeks trading to make 3 billion, and then someone gave you 8 billion isk with no guarantee, I'm sure some of you reading this would have done the same. I understand now that I have lost any modicum of trust, but please, do not think ill of me as a person.
I'm sorry but that's really no excuse, just because someone "gives" you ISK with no guarantee doesn't mean your best, most logical option is to throw any trust in the trash and just walk with it. It's pretty scummy to do and painfully predictable. Not only do you tarnish your own reputation you may put off anyone else from placing their trust in someone who is actually legitimate just looking for capital with no intention to scam. I never said it was my best, most logical option. Not everyone acts logically all the time, although I do try. Eve is a character study of what happens when the rules are few and you cannot die. Everyone makes their own choices. Scamming is a career for some, and in the choices CCP gives us, it is just as legitimate as trading, which, for the record, I did and still do. And as for making people less likely to give to others who are legitimate: every person for them self. Keep in mind, also, that scamming isn't "getting rich off other people's backs. I spent many, many hours perpetrating this scam. |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
17
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:11:09 -
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Yong Shin wrote:Zerinia wrote: Scammers are people too. I just want to state for the record that I am a good person. If you were a new trader, spent 3 weeks trading to make 3 billion, and then someone gave you 8 billion isk with no guarantee, I'm sure some of you reading this would have done the same. I understand now that I have lost any modicum of trust, but please, do not think ill of me as a person.
It really is a crying shame, though. You seriously have the most trust-worthy looking portrait I've seen in EVE (if there is such a thing), and it matches perfectly with your corp name. I almost filled the expansion myself, had a brave hero not revealed the scam. Not to mention I was in the process of mailing "Chmmr Avatar" on my industry character asking if I can get an invite into the corp. Something about the name greatly appealed to me. Chmmr and I are different people, and what I did here was not under the explicit sanction of ALFOS. Feel free to ask him if you wish; this character does nothing except be a forum alt, and I chose this char as my forum alt because of the excellent name. |
Vanaunge
Deep Space Whaling Crew
10
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:11:42 -
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You should have prepared to be caught. You posted making 2.5 bill a week and the evidence you supplied showed only 3 bill in the mons you had the char. Any person with a serious intrest would have found it out, I do not claim to be a hero. I just want to become a part of MD and the community. I help my fellow traders out. This is how you become known, ppl forget all about the petty scams. Props to the answers to all the questions though, you sounded legit |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:15:37 -
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Vanaunge wrote:You should have prepared to be caught. You posted making 2.5 bill a week and the evidence you supplied showed only 3 bill in the mons you had the char. Any person with a serious intrest would have found it out, I do not claim to be a hero. I just want to become a part of MD and the community. I help my fellow traders out. This is how you become known, ppl forget all about the petty scams. Props to the answers to all the questions though, you sounded legit Fair enough, there were certainly holes, but it was my first time. The reason my "case" was so flimsy was that because when I had intended to be legitimate in the initial 8b, AC asked almost no questions, stating out right he didn't care what my business plan was. |
Yong Shin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:17:18 -
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Vanaunge wrote:You should have prepared to be caught. You posted making 2.5 bill a week and the evidence you supplied showed only 3 bill in the mons you had the char. Any person with a serious intrest would have found it out, I do not claim to be a hero. I just want to become a part of MD and the community. I help my fellow traders out. This is how you become known, ppl forget all about the petty scams. Props to the answers to all the questions though, you sounded legit
Don't sell yourself short. You are a hero |
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Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:22:43 -
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Yong Shin wrote:Vanaunge wrote:You should have prepared to be caught. You posted making 2.5 bill a week and the evidence you supplied showed only 3 bill in the mons you had the char. Any person with a serious intrest would have found it out, I do not claim to be a hero. I just want to become a part of MD and the community. I help my fellow traders out. This is how you become known, ppl forget all about the petty scams. Props to the answers to all the questions though, you sounded legit Don't sell yourself short. You are a hero Or a villain ;-) Seriously though, no hard feeling towards you van (even if you can't say the same) and thank you also for teaching me. Some of what you asked I never thought of, and are things I need to consider in my trading endeavors in future. |
Vanaunge
Deep Space Whaling Crew
14
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:40:29 -
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I do not hate you, I hate no person. I was just warning my fellow MD peeps. It was well thought out. Though not well enough. Ppl on this section of the fourms are good ppl for the most part. They have helped millions of ppl through crisis and everything else. They would have helped you start off and become a better trader had you asked. These ppl are a community within itself. I wish you had been legit. It would have been a great opportunity for the both of us. Me to start lending, you to start borrowing. Sadly it did not turn out as such. |
Zerinia
Alliance of Free Stars
36
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:43:44 -
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Vanaunge wrote:I do not hate you, I hate no person. I was just warning my fellow MD peeps. It was well thought out. Though not well enough. Ppl on this section of the fourms are good ppl for the most part. They have helped millions of ppl through crisis and everything else. They would have helped you start off and become a better trader had you asked. These ppl are a community within itself. I wish you had been legit. It would have been a great opportunity for the both of us. Me to start lending, you to start borrowing. Sadly it did not turn out as such. It would indeed have been a great opportunity for both of us. That being said, I still do trade, and I still have learned much from MD folks. This isn't the last you'll hear from me :) |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6445
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Posted - 2015.10.27 03:07:11 -
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Thread closed at OP's polite request.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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