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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2015.10.15 09:01:43 -
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Thanks to : http://www.schildwall.info/sisi/
we know that CCP is working on set of new T2 Logistic frigates.
Deacon (hmm): Logistics Frigate : Amarr Ohiki : Logistics Frigate: Caldari Gallente Rep Rep Good Good (yeah) : Logistics Frigate : Gallente Minmatar Shield Shield Zap Zap : Logistics Frigate: Minmatar
I propose to take totally different approach in this case. Instead of making them available via invention - lets make T2 BPC available only in pirate LP stores ( without possibility to get it by faction drop).
This will provide nice ISK sink , and will provide boost to pirate LP stores - they relay need it. We don't need to create multiple versions of this ships for each LP store, but instead of this , lets make creation of those frigates joint operation of all pirate groups. So all pirate LP stores will offer BPC for both hulls.
This will not affect current industry , as this is totally new ship class , and as only BPC will be available , people will still need T2 components to produce them.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.10.15 09:20:45 -
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While I appreciate the information, I do not think these ships should come from any LP store. T2 ships come from players and these ships should be no different.
If you want to boost the pirate LP stores, add some of the modules that are not currently out there. Such as faction turret disruptors, missile disruptors, remote sensor dampeners, ECM, etc. That's just a few of the many options out there.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2015.10.15 09:21:30 -
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Now how the hell would pirates get a monopoly on a BPC for a ship they dont produce? surely the amarrian would be viziam or khanid or something and not Blood raiders... |
Anthar Thebess
1327
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Posted - 2015.10.15 09:33:32 -
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Pirate factions have secret projects. This is not about monopoly , my suggestion is to give all pirate factions ability to get BPC , so currently worst pirate LP stores will get biggest boost. This is also about creating isk sink.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2589
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Posted - 2015.10.15 10:19:29 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Pirate factions have secret projects. This is not about monopoly , my suggestion is to give all pirate factions ability to get BPC , so currently worst pirate LP stores will get biggest boost. This is also about creating isk sink.
If it's an isk sink then the appropriate empire stores would be just as good. If it's boosting pirate LP stores, well they all are good already, but other ways than utterly breaking EVE lore can be done to improve them also.
Also T2 Logi frigates are terrible to add. They are either going to trample all over T1 Cruisers, or be utterly useless. They really aren't needed. And they certainly are going to trample over T1 Frigate logi which was already very niche. |
Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2015.10.15 10:48:47 -
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Pirate LP stores are in bad situation , as they provide limited number of useful things. In many cases actual profitable items that can be pulled from LP store is limited to implants and capital ammo.
Both of those items have limited application , and very small group of players is able to crash the market. ( Burner missions made this even worse)
Yes you can pull multiple other items from pirate LP stores, but then LP to ISK ratio is much lower than one you can get running higsec missions and pulling good stuff from higsec LP stores.
Introducing BPC for this frigates to pirate LP stores, not only could help this situation, but also could provide additional balancing factor for next logistic ship group.
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
137
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Posted - 2015.10.15 10:51:20 -
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Burn it all. And start over.
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Anthar Thebess
1327
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Posted - 2015.10.15 11:07:06 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:Burn it all. And start over. If you mean eve , then for last 2 years the only thing keeping me in this game is time that already invested in developing my chars ... so no .... or yes , but pls fast
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1833
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:30:32 -
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T2 in LP store
Nope... sorry
Akrasjel Lanate
Member of Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Citizen of Solitude
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Anthar Thebess
1327
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:31:23 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:T2 in LP store
Nope... sorry T2 BPC to be precise.
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Helios Panala
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:41:37 -
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I'd just like to add my 2c.
The Minmatar T2 logi frig should keep the name 'Zap zap'. |
Luscius Uta
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Posted - 2015.10.15 12:56:09 -
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If you want to improve pirate LP stores, more logical way to do it would be to add another Cruiser to them...after all, all empire factions have two different cruisers in their LP stores.
Or even better, give us Pirate Battlecruisers!
Drifters have arrived - The End is nigh!
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Anthar Thebess
1327
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Posted - 2015.10.15 13:08:59 -
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The problem in faction cruiser BPC is that they drop often from escalations , and LP to isk ratio put them around 200 to 500 isk per LP.
Just to compare usual ratio for FW is around 1000 isk per LP.
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1814
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Posted - 2015.10.15 13:22:15 -
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/me puts on his trolling hat.
The only T2 ships which should come from the Pirate LP stores are the Alliance Tournament ships, when CCP finally gets around to letting the rest of us find a way to get them for less than a few billion.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1481
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Posted - 2015.10.15 13:27:57 -
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Is there really a plan to ruin FW w/ T2 logi frigates? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.15 13:34:23 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:The problem in faction cruiser BPC is that they drop often from escalations , and LP to isk ratio put them around 200 to 500 isk per LP.
Just to compare usual ratio for FW is around 1000 isk per LP.
THen people should start losing them more so the price climbs back up through higher demand from people constantly losing them and reduce supply through them being exploded more often. |
Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:38:11 -
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To many changes over the years, and to many escalations.
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