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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:03:18 -
[1531] - Quote
Don ZOLA wrote: You can say, but the difference is that i have made numerous arguments against this and you did not manage to counter a single one.
Not to get in the middle of your little spat, but I just want to respond to that one thing.
Maybe your arguments aren't as grand as you think they are. Perhaps people feel they are not worth responding to as they are unrealistic at best and outright fabrications at worst.
Or something.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1673
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:04:48 -
[1532] - Quote
Don ZOLA wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Tex Raynor wrote:Love it. I suggest considering placing a cap, say around 150 or 200 mil sp, at which point sp cannot be injected. Otherwise one could technically purchase his way all up to maximum skillpoints - not sure if I am ok with that. there was a post earlier explaining what the cost would be to have max level, that wont happen... There are people who spend thousands, even tents of thousands on this game, why do you think it is not going to happen? Rare cases of course, but it will happen. if these people spend that amount already then whats the issue because they are already paying rl cash to gain an advantage The issue is that this is supposed to help new players and it will not.
Quoted cost from previous pages:
3. The cost of buying SP will become increasing expensive. To give some numbers to this. To get a 20 million SP character with the current method I'd have to buy 22,750,000 SP to inject. That is, I have to buy 13.75% more SP than I am attempting to end up at. If I want to jump to 50 million SP I have to actually buy 60,250,000 SP or about 21% SP over where I'll end up. One poster blathered on about how there'd be all these characters with 600 million SP. Just to get to 500 million SP one would have to buy 3.495 billion SP. Yes, with a fracking 'B'...billion. So STFU about that ****.
So its not really going to be very economical to max level characters, once you get to the certain sp its going to be more viable buying a character from the bazaar
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darkchild's corpse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:05:06 -
[1533] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So there isn't anything really wrong with the change, it's just "principle"?
Like, it's a great change that will most definitely result in alot more newer players trying the game and possibly sticking around long enough for us all to enjoy some new content via interaction with different people.
But because the idea is similar to pay to win, even though it's been established that it's not pay to win since skill points do not equal winning, we're revolting against it?
So the United States of America is blowing up Hospitals. All western countries are spying on and collecting data on all of their citizens for whatever nefarious purposes they can dream up. . .
But this is where we draw the line? This is the topic that gets the spergers blood boiling?
An idea that we correlate to pay to win, even though it's not, but we say it is because money is involved?
How silly. People like you are why I have such a superiority complex. Stop being ignorant for a start and read arguments people write and stop repeating bs. I can say this exact same thing to you and it will be just as true, and probably more so.
bullshit. he is making valid points spreaded all over the thread. he even explained why it would not lead to new players and this is were i agree with him.
this new mechanic is defnetly pay to win wich also was explained in this thread several times. |
Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
696
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:06:13 -
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Don ZOLA wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So there isn't anything really wrong with the change, it's just "principle"?
Like, it's a great change that will most definitely result in alot more newer players trying the game and possibly sticking around long enough for us all to enjoy some new content via interaction with different people.
But because the idea is similar to pay to win, even though it's been established that it's not pay to win since skill points do not equal winning, we're revolting against it?
So the United States of America is blowing up Hospitals. All western countries are spying on and collecting data on all of their citizens for whatever nefarious purposes they can dream up. . .
But this is where we draw the line? This is the topic that gets the spergers blood boiling?
An idea that we correlate to pay to win, even though it's not, but we say it is because money is involved?
How silly. People like you are why I have such a superiority complex. Stop being ignorant for a start and read arguments people write and stop repeating bs. I can say this exact same thing to you and it will be just as true, and probably more so. You can say, but the difference is that i have made numerous arguments against this and you did not manage to counter a single one. All you do is just repeat this is great idea and that it will be great benefit. I challenged that multiple times, yet it seems your superiority complex does not allow you to get in "fight' where you can lose so you stick to spamming same bs. Edit: so just you saying it will not make it true at all, it will just make you look dumb ;)
It's not pay to win. Skill points don't equal winning.
If anything, buying PLEX is MORE pay to win because with tons of ISK from selling PLEX, you can pay an entire alliance to kick another alliance out of their home.
I don't see you crying on the forums about my ability to spend $10000 on plex and paying mercenaries to hellcamp others out of the game.
This isn't pay to win, at all.
It's like spending money to buy a new dress to wear to the big dance. O that Raven show cases my attributes much better than this incurses does. I'll be sure to have all the boys looking at my killboard if I wear that!
This entire thread is just full of a bunch of non-sensical crying about how the sky is falling. . . . but we're in space! There's no sky. It's just more space followed by more space, except now we're going to see people who've been playing for only 3 months flying around in ships that use to take 8 months to fly.
It's not a big deal. It doesn't change anything and the thought that it does is plain and simple a testament to yours and everyone else who agrees with your sentiment that you're irrational and over reacting at the mere thought of change, even though it's a change for the better.
Your crying is the same as dudes in 1956 crying about how back in their day it use to take them 3 weeks to drive across country and sure, now with the new interstate system it only takes 1, but by-golly it just ain't right dammit! If it was only suppose to take a few days to drive across the country, it would've only took that long back when I use to do it when I was a wee lad! |
Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
43
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:07:02 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Don ZOLA wrote: You can say, but the difference is that i have made numerous arguments against this and you did not manage to counter a single one.
Not to get in the middle of your little spat, but I just want to respond to that one thing. Maybe your arguments aren't as grand as you think they are. Perhaps people feel they are not worth responding to as they are unrealistic at best and outright fabrications at worst. Or something. Mr Epeen
If they were not good they would be quite easy to be challenged. And I am sure people would enjoy to do it. Considering how much "support" they are pushing into this and answering anything they can I am sure they would spend 1 min to make my arguments void and get me out of the discussion. You do not seem to be familiar with how forums work? :P
There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know
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Dave Stark
7547
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:07:05 -
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Don ZOLA wrote:The issue is that this is supposed to help new players and it will not.
think i missed the line in the devblog that said that.
could you quote it for me, my eyesight seems to be failing me in my old age
Devblog wrote:For those reasons, weGÇÖve been wanting to take a look at improving the Bazaar for some time now. Recently, weGÇÖve seen new threads emerging where EVE players discuss options to help new players with progression. The combination of your threads and our Character Bazaar evaluation together were that extra kick in the pants to get us into gear.
they said that us discussing helping new players has kicked them in to gear, not that this idea is for new players. |
Hashtag Rare Pepe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:08:05 -
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Reiisha wrote:Can we just all agree on this being a really bad idea and nip it in the bud?
CCP already is on a slippery slope with everything that's going on. They don't need to give themselves the push to go down all the way.
No? |
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
52
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:08:26 -
[1538] - Quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_gap
Eve is dying, eve is dying, yeah yeah yeah, eve is dying... Now I'm against it But Eve is dying, eve is dying, yeah yeah yeah, eve is dying...
Also free gold plated dominix for vets only, rainbow coloured text in local for vets only, name a planet for vets only, name a system for vets only...
No? Ah never mind... Its friday...
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
43
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:09:38 -
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Lan Wang wrote: Quoted cost from previous pages:
3. The cost of buying SP will become increasing expensive. To give some numbers to this. To get a 20 million SP character with the current method I'd have to buy 22,750,000 SP to inject. That is, I have to buy 13.75% more SP than I am attempting to end up at. If I want to jump to 50 million SP I have to actually buy 60,250,000 SP or about 21% SP over where I'll end up. One poster blathered on about how there'd be all these characters with 600 million SP. Just to get to 500 million SP one would have to buy 3.495 billion SP. Yes, with a fracking 'B'...billion. So STFU about that ****.
So its not really going to be very economical to max level characters, once you get to the certain sp its going to be more viable buying a character from the bazaar
I agree with that. But I never mentioned it as a key issue. How about you read this and then comment : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6101499#post6101499
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Sunstar Jonni
Leviathan Rising Affirmative.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:09:39 -
[1540] - Quote
Seriouly is Rise running around smacking people with the wabbajack again! NO NO NO
I can see spending plex to change appearance\name would like some accounting in corp history for that however.
Even notification that a Char has changed hands.
But this SP buying and selling No I do not think this could ever work and not be completly abused. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25324
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:10:20 -
[1541] - Quote
Patrick Yaa wrote:This is absolutely NOT targetted towards new players. Guybrush logs into the game, does the tutorial, sees the big spaceships, buys the skillpoints, and BAM he can fly an Abaddon/Raven/whatever, which he promptly buy withs a PLEX. yay. now what. Chances are, the shiny new ship will end up killed soon enough, because the only guns that kind of work will be faction guns. But hey, you just got a billion, money to spend. Even if Guybrush buys more skills, he still doesn't have the experience or ANYTHING required to fly a ship that size. He will be eaten by rats, because his tank isn't good enough, he will be hunted for the shinies. and this is all just in the FIRST FREAKIING WEEK he plays. yay, money spent on a game and woops he's gone. congrats.
This might be good for intermediate players who are already in a corp and want to fly a doctrine, but this. is. not. for. new. players.
goddammit
Would that be Mr Threepwood?
I agree this isn't going to benefit new players, despite some people thinking otherwise. I normally laugh at the Eve is dying threads, unfortunately with this change CCP seem determined to grab all the cash they can while they take it in that direction with ill conceived crap like this, all the while saying "think of the children"
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4131
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:11:16 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:So there isn't anything really wrong with the change, it's just "principle"? Obviously you don't care about the principle. And you know what? From a personal perspective, in this case I don't care either.
When I'm out shooting people, I never think about how many SP they have and if those + or -5% will make any difference, because usually they simply don't.
Problem is, many people care about principles. I'm worried that because of principles and underlying game culture/style/philosophy there will be many more people leaving the game or simply enjoying it less than people joining or enjoying it more.
Also, I expect that the f*ing company making the game care about principles. I expect them to create and maintain meaningful and fun game mechanics, not offer players ways to skip them altogether if, and only if, they fork out $.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
43
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:11:55 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So there isn't anything really wrong with the change, it's just "principle"?
Like, it's a great change that will most definitely result in alot more newer players trying the game and possibly sticking around long enough for us all to enjoy some new content via interaction with different people.
But because the idea is similar to pay to win, even though it's been established that it's not pay to win since skill points do not equal winning, we're revolting against it?
So the United States of America is blowing up Hospitals. All western countries are spying on and collecting data on all of their citizens for whatever nefarious purposes they can dream up. . .
But this is where we draw the line? This is the topic that gets the spergers blood boiling?
An idea that we correlate to pay to win, even though it's not, but we say it is because money is involved?
How silly. People like you are why I have such a superiority complex. Stop being ignorant for a start and read arguments people write and stop repeating bs. I can say this exact same thing to you and it will be just as true, and probably more so. You can say, but the difference is that i have made numerous arguments against this and you did not manage to counter a single one. All you do is just repeat this is great idea and that it will be great benefit. I challenged that multiple times, yet it seems your superiority complex does not allow you to get in "fight' where you can lose so you stick to spamming same bs. Edit: so just you saying it will not make it true at all, it will just make you look dumb ;) It's not pay to win. Skill points don't equal winning. If anything, buying PLEX is MORE pay to win because with tons of ISK from selling PLEX, you can pay an entire alliance to kick another alliance out of their home. I don't see you crying on the forums about my ability to spend $10000 on plex and paying mercenaries to hellcamp others out of the game. This isn't pay to win, at all. It's like spending money to buy a new dress to wear to the big dance. O that Raven show cases my attributes much better than this incurses does. I'll be sure to have all the boys looking at my killboard if I wear that! This entire thread is just full of a bunch of non-sensical crying about how the sky is falling. . . . but we're in space! There's no sky. It's just more space followed by more space, except now we're going to see people who've been playing for only 3 months flying around in ships that use to take 8 months to fly. It's not a big deal. It doesn't change anything and the thought that it does is plain and simple a testament to yours and everyone else who agrees with your sentiment that you're irrational and over reacting at the mere thought of change, even though it's a change for the better. Your crying is the same as dudes in 1956 crying about how back in their day it use to take them 3 weeks to drive across country and sure, now with the new interstate system it only takes 1, but by-golly it just ain't right dammit! If it was only suppose to take a few days to drive across the country, it would've only took that long back when I use to do it when I was a wee lad!
Nice post. Really. I just do not see how is it related to my arguments on the issue. So can you please first read some of my posts, for example https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6101499#post6101499 and then counter argument so we avoid your unnecessary spam and making you look like having no clue about what you are trying to counter argument? Thanks in advance.
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jaqwith
Tiefbauamt
0
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:13:15 -
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I got very mixed feelings about this.
It would be nice to reallocate skill points, but I don't like the idea of trading them. Just give every character the option to deallocate eg. 1M SP/year and increase that for traded chars.
A better integration of the Character Bazaar seems a good thing. To see a char's previous trades in a info tab would certainly be helpful.
The part I dislike most though is that the only limit for this activity seems to be ISK/AUR/money. There should be some time limit as well in my opinion GÇô either on extractor use or affected skill points. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1673
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:13:59 -
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Don ZOLA wrote:Lan Wang wrote: Quoted cost from previous pages:
3. The cost of buying SP will become increasing expensive. To give some numbers to this. To get a 20 million SP character with the current method I'd have to buy 22,750,000 SP to inject. That is, I have to buy 13.75% more SP than I am attempting to end up at. If I want to jump to 50 million SP I have to actually buy 60,250,000 SP or about 21% SP over where I'll end up. One poster blathered on about how there'd be all these characters with 600 million SP. Just to get to 500 million SP one would have to buy 3.495 billion SP. Yes, with a fracking 'B'...billion. So STFU about that ****.
So its not really going to be very economical to max level characters, once you get to the certain sp its going to be more viable buying a character from the bazaar
I agree with that. But I never mentioned it as a key issue. How about you read this and then comment : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6101499#post6101499
i agree with all the alts stuff after all 3 new alts and you in theory you have to pay for another subscription, maybe ccp see it like that and realise they can make more money from the whole playerbase not just new players.
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Ghengis Khuan
Zonk Squad CCLP
0
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:14:59 -
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I can tell you for sure, if you do this "pay to win" thing, i'll cancel all my subscriptions and quit playing for good. This is not EVE, this is something else. I'm defending my position telling you that you are going to blow up the game for good. EVE was unique a time ago, it is not anymore with all the changes you've made. If you proceed with this ideas and decisions, the game witch took more than a decade to develop will fall and your servers will get empty. So, go ahead...
Affff....
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Nillus K'varr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:15:20 -
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I thought you were against RMT. But this screams 'farmer' like no other.
No, please. Just no. We don't need a Winter of Rage to complement the Summer from 4 years ago.
If you want reallocation just do it within the character itself and not with transactions. |
Tex Raynor
The High and Mighty Carebear Abortion Clinic
14
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:15:47 -
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To keep attribute choice relevant, sp should probably stay in their respective categories.
This would also prevent a character from training some perception/willpower max speed only to relocated the sp into say, charisma related skills.
Other than that, can't wait to see the final iteration.
And for those claiming this make your character OP-pay-to-win... unless you can magically fly more than 1 ship I fail to find this argument convincing. Ever since I passed 100 mil sp, I have been queuing level 5 skills, in no particular order, which provide marginal benefits. Still die to the blob, still get killed by half-skilled hard counters, still pwn F1 kitchensink fleets... |
Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
44
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:17:27 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:The issue is that this is supposed to help new players and it will not. think i missed the line in the devblog that said that. could you quote it for me, my eyesight seems to be failing me in my old age Devblog wrote:For those reasons, weGÇÖve been wanting to take a look at improving the Bazaar for some time now. Recently, weGÇÖve seen new threads emerging where EVE players discuss options to help new players with progression. The combination of your threads and our Character Bazaar evaluation together were that extra kick in the pants to get us into gear. they said that us discussing helping new players has kicked them in to gear, not that this idea is for new players.
"Recently, weGÇÖve seen new threads emerging where EVE players discuss options to help new players with progression. The combination of your threads and our Character Bazaar evaluation together were that extra kick in the pants to get us into gear."
To start with. Just noticed you quoted it as well. Whole diminishing return mechanism setup is that new players get the most of the benefit out of it. If they are willing to spend additional cash for a game they just started. IF. I am sure majority will not and as i already mentioned numerous times before, game fundamentals are being changed for something that will not yield any real benefit. Set sail for fail.
Regardless of that, it is main "argument" of supporters of this idea. And it is fail argument as it will not work as intended.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4133
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:20:38 -
[1550] - Quote
Tex Raynor wrote:And for those claiming this make your character OP-pay-to-win... unless you can magically fly more than 1 ship I fail to find this argument convincing. Ever since I passed 100 mil sp, I have been queuing level 5 skills, in no particular order, which provide marginal benefits. Still die to the blob, still get killed by half-skilled hard counters, still pwn F1 kitchensink fleets... Agree. So why do the players need this pay-to-SP crap?
If it was, say, a once-an-year partial skill reallocation I'd say ok, whatever, maybe good maybe bad, who cares.
But since it's a whenever-you-pay-us mechanic, I can't help thinking it's stinky and shady as hell...
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Jaime Wulfe
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
16
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:21:00 -
[1551] - Quote
If I could turn back time...
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Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
145
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:22:51 -
[1552] - Quote
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a22550/pornstars-before-and-after/
Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why.
Hunter S. Thompson
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
44
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:23:37 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Don ZOLA wrote:Lan Wang wrote: Quoted cost from previous pages:
3. The cost of buying SP will become increasing expensive. To give some numbers to this. To get a 20 million SP character with the current method I'd have to buy 22,750,000 SP to inject. That is, I have to buy 13.75% more SP than I am attempting to end up at. If I want to jump to 50 million SP I have to actually buy 60,250,000 SP or about 21% SP over where I'll end up. One poster blathered on about how there'd be all these characters with 600 million SP. Just to get to 500 million SP one would have to buy 3.495 billion SP. Yes, with a fracking 'B'...billion. So STFU about that ****.
So its not really going to be very economical to max level characters, once you get to the certain sp its going to be more viable buying a character from the bazaar
I agree with that. But I never mentioned it as a key issue. How about you read this and then comment : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6101499#post6101499 i agree with all the alts stuff after all 3 new alts and you in theory you have to pay for another subscription, maybe ccp see it like that and realise they can make more money from the whole playerbase not just new players.
Majority of new players cannot afford it. For older players the return is quite low so I doubt many will do it. Ie they are ready to change game fundamentals for something which will have weak results? What`s next we can expect? No idea if they have no consistency and who would want to invest years of playing in something which does not have consistency? Not many for sure.
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Don ZOLA
Omniscient Order
44
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:24:27 -
[1554] - Quote
Wrong c/p? :D
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
666
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:25:11 -
[1555] - Quote
A bold move!
Years later, watching a sunset on a water world somewhere near Sagittarius A*, I'll probably have those fond memories of EVE, what it could become, and what it ultimately couldn't. I'll then exit E:D, load some screenshots from my first EVE trial in 1997 and shed a crocodile tear or two.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4133
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:25:30 -
[1556] - Quote
Most of them are even better 'before'.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
145
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:26:30 -
[1557] - Quote
... think i fixed it
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a22550/pornstars-before-and-after/ if not, really drunk
Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why.
Hunter S. Thompson
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. I N F A M O U S
511
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:27:41 -
[1558] - Quote
Eternal Bob wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:This means from now on no matter what decision you make in the game it has no consequence any more? Just buy some more SP to get all the ships you want to fly, without any effort. Tell me all about the effort needed to gain skill points currently.
Time. |
Dave Stark
7549
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:29:19 -
[1559] - Quote
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Eternal Bob wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:This means from now on no matter what decision you make in the game it has no consequence any more? Just buy some more SP to get all the ships you want to fly, without any effort. Tell me all about the effort needed to gain skill points currently. Time.
or money, pay some one else for their time. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6852
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:32:25 -
[1560] - Quote
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Tex Raynor wrote:And for those claiming this make your character OP-pay-to-win... unless you can magically fly more than 1 ship I fail to find this argument convincing. Ever since I passed 100 mil sp, I have been queuing level 5 skills, in no particular order, which provide marginal benefits. Still die to the blob, still get killed by half-skilled hard counters, still pwn F1 kitchensink fleets... Agree. So why do the players need this pay-to-SP crap? If it was, say, a once-an-year partial skill reallocation I'd say ok, whatever, maybe good maybe bad, who cares. But since it's a whenever-you-pay-us mechanic, I can't help thinking it's stinky and shady as hell... But if you bought it from another player....
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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