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unidenify
Plundering Penguins Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2015.10.17 04:19:22 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Has the Gila been nerfed specifically or is he still talking about the DDA nerf?
Hard ship to master, lol. Fit RLML, massive shield buffer, and some augmented medium drones > unleash utterly brakeless **** train. -1 low slot and -20 CPU for gila/worm |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
795
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Posted - 2015.10.17 04:45:20 -
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when you train a ship because its fotm of the month that means it is going to at some point meeting the nerf bat. This is not a hidden trend.
CCP's other trend is also slots and grid. Study eve history before you do fotm all I can say. Slots and grids works for them....it castrated dual neut o cane literally overnight. Patch hit and damn it hurt. I was not mad about this patch. Quite the oppositie. I was wondering what took ccp so damn long to fix it. I flew dual neut o cane, it had issues balance wise and they were so obvious it was a question of when not if the nerf bat would hit it. Best you do in this case.....ride that gravy train till they derail it.
Fun fact...its you and the 200000000 other players spamming it who speed up this process, btw. High use skylines a ship. Once on the skyline, you stand out for nerf bat drive by's.
Also some whining about Gila nerf....what skills are now useless? Drones are good for many ships. Shield doctrine is here to stay (wished it came sooner as I had started shields but had to learn armour long ago when armour was the dominant king of tanking), as well as missiles. Yes HML nerfed a bit back, but you have core support in place for others. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2790
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Posted - 2015.10.17 04:56:42 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:
My point is that it is a fault of CCP, that they made the ship with incorrect stats. It was on test server, it was moved to the main server. Now new dev comes in and says it is overpowerd bla bla bla. This is wrong.
Too many ships god killed in the past because of this.
Imagine real life, you buy a car, drive it for half a year, then manufacture comes and says, oy, your mercedes is too good, have a bad one instead. That is what CCP doing now with Gila and Orthurus.
That what was done to Ishtar not long ago...
I geuss they should provide some warning or notice before they-
Quote:CCP MAY FIND IT NECESSARY ON OCCASION TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR RESET CERTAIN PARAMETERS OF THE PERSISTENT GAME WORLD MECHANICS, INTERFACE OR FEATURES OF EVE ONLINE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN GAME BALANCE AND ENHANCE PLAYABILITY OR PERFORMANCE FOR ITS SUBSCRIBERS. THESE CHANGES MAY AFFECT OR CAUSE SETBACKS FOR THE CHARACTERS YOUGÇÖVE CREATED.
...oops.
also, lol "correct stats". |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1836
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Posted - 2015.10.17 06:53:06 -
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Nope
Akrasjel Lanate
Member of Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Citizen of Solitude
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kingduckling
The pie is a lie
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Posted - 2015.10.17 08:34:04 -
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this thread cant be happening.......i mean really, its common sense you are not going to get your sp reset(which ever one you might think needs reseting/returned/reimbursed).
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Garrett Osinov
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.17 10:24:49 -
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kingduckling wrote:this thread cant be happening.......i mean really, its common sense you are not going to get your sp reset(which ever one you might think needs reseting/returned/reimbursed).
If everyone in this thread supported the idea of SP reset, when CCP screws up a ship, then it could be possible, that it would happen.
I trained all the drone skills for Ishtar (which was like it was for many many years, i think since the introduction of sentry drones and even before that, correct me if I am wrong) and it gets "rebalanced" in terms of slot layout and gets hit by a nerf bat with sentry damage. To me it becomes useless. Remind you it's not 2 weeks train time to get all those skills.
Now another ship which I realy liked gets hit by a nerf bat. And noone isn't responsible for this. On the other hand what am I talking about, ppl get killed in the world on a daily basis, hospitals get bombed, and noone is charged for that. And I am talking about responsibility in game.
And it is like that all the time. |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
1080
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Posted - 2015.10.17 10:38:04 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:Imagine real life, you buy a car, drive it for half a year, then manufacture comes and says, oy, your mercedes is too good, have a bad one instead. That is what CCP doing now with Gila and Orthurus. Except RL approach is bad for a competitive (sorta) video game and vica versa. No point in bringing that up.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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FireFrenzy
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
606
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Posted - 2015.10.17 14:55:29 -
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congrats you can now use your caldari and gallentean cruiser skillpoints to fly something else... Maybe try a deimos and a rook... |
Sleepaz Den
Artificial Memories
6
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Posted - 2015.10.17 17:04:15 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:Gila was in its current state for many years so is Orthurus.
Nah, it was just a brief period of like one year of great Gilas, and you should've taken the hint when DDAs (a rather new module aswell) got nerfed. |
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:25:49 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote: Imagine real life, you buy a car, drive it for half a year, then manufacture comes and says, oy, your mercedes is too good, have a bad one instead. That is what CCP doing now with Gila and Orthurus.
So you mean they should just make Gila and Orthurus unable to apply any dmg to other players (disallow the car from competition) ? |
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Cristl
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Posted - 2015.10.17 19:35:35 -
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Don't be bloody daft. The skills are still useful and the ships are getting needed adjustments, not totally trashed.
Some of the science and industry skills took *much* harder kicks in the balls without reimbursement. |
Azazel The Misanthrope
Proioxis Assault Force Exodus.
100
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:07:04 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:It is very simple, CCP can write a simple script, if something gets nerfed, then all related skill points can be reset. Done, sorted.
Nothing in EVE is ever that simple I am afraid. |
Azazel The Misanthrope
Proioxis Assault Force Exodus.
100
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:12:27 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:kingduckling wrote:this thread cant be happening.......i mean really, its common sense you are not going to get your sp reset(which ever one you might think needs reseting/returned/reimbursed).
If everyone in this thread supported the idea of SP reset, when CCP screws up a ship, then it could be possible, that it would happen. I trained all the drone skills for Ishtar (which was like it was for many many years, i think since the introduction of sentry drones and even before that, correct me if I am wrong) and it gets "rebalanced" in terms of slot layout and gets hit by a nerf bat with sentry damage. To me it becomes useless. Remind you it's not 2 weeks train time to get all those skills. Now another ship which I realy liked gets hit by a nerf bat. And noone isn't responsible for this. On the other hand what am I talking about, ppl get killed in the world on a daily basis, hospitals get bombed, and noone is charged for that. And I am talking about responsibility in game. And it is like that all the time.
I have heard of no ship that was really unnervingly powerful for "many many years". |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2407
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Posted - 2015.10.18 04:55:04 -
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Garrett Osinov wrote:I trained all the drone skills for Ishtar (which was like it was for many many years, i think since the introduction of sentry drones and even before that, correct me if I am wrong) and it gets "rebalanced" in terms of slot layout and gets hit by a nerf bat with sentry damage. To me it becomes useless. Remind you it's not 2 weeks train time to get all those skills.
Now another ship which I realy liked gets hit by a nerf bat. And noone isn't responsible for this. On the other hand what am I talking about, ppl get killed in the world on a daily basis, hospitals get bombed, and noone is charged for that. And I am talking about responsibility in game.
And it is like that all the time.
And the cycle continues.
Let's see here. I have... checking... 20,736,000 SP in drones. Throw out fighters and it still comes to 17,664,000. And guess what? Every bit of it is still useful. It's still useful on my Ishtars. It's still useful on my Gilas. If you want to have SP in something else, then bloody well get it; no one is stopping you.
If you're just complaining because those SP aren't an absolute "I win" button and you feel entitled to one: you aren't. Rebalancing ships is healthy for the game. SP isn't wasted, it just takes on a new relative value. If you can't accept that, the door is over there ---> |
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