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Alexander Tekitsu
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.21 14:56:27 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Congratulations on comparing an ingame event which is available to everyone to a pay for features system which favored the rich IRL and older players. Fundamentally the same thing. You use your time to hunt down and contest sites to find boosters, put them on contract so you can make isk, someone with isk ( regardless of how they got that ISK ) buys it and gains SP with no effort. You use your time to gain SP, put it in a container so you can make ISK, someone with ISK ( regardless of how they got it ) buys it and gains SP with no effort. You use your time to earn enough ISK to buy a plex to play for free ( which requires someone to have purchased the plex for RLM )
I fail to see how either favour the older or the rich IRL players. This however is probably a better discussion for a different thread and I apologize if this side tracked this thread at all.
From what I recall, the few sites I ran the beacon disappeared with the BC being destroyed, so leaving the last few rats made no difference, this may have changed which would put them more in line with exploration sites ( Data/Relic ) where 1 can left means the site doesn't despawn and respawn elsewhere. I'm not sure if these sites operate on the same method ( there are x number, when one is knocked out it will spawn a new one somewhere else. |
Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
2037
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Posted - 2015.10.21 15:13:39 -
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Alexander Tekitsu wrote::golfclap: Congratulations CCP on making a great point ( whether intentional or not ). All those people deadset about how buying SP is going to kill EVE and you simply put out an accelerator that offers 900 and 1080 SP/hour bonus for 24 hours ( 21.6k and 25.9k SP respectively) and people buy them off contract, hunt for them everywhere and cheer it on all the way never once thinking of the hypocrisy that while they are against being able to inject SP, this is exactly what these are, just on a slow drip. Perhaps this also provides a solution to the fears of pay to win. The proposed "skill packet" for lets say 256k SP when extracted would result in a booster such as these, offering lets throw out there +20 ( +1800SP / hr ) for ~ 6 days ( and time or attribute bonus can be scaled for diminishing returns based on current SP of the character being injected ). So you can buy all you want, but you can only get the SP allocation over time ( and can't sit there injecting your way up to 10m SP on a character that is 3 hours old ) Again, very elegant point as long as these are truly working as intended ( which I'm not so sure of prior to downtime ) . Perhaps putting current SP/Hour on the Character sheet would be helpful ( or even in the properties for the skills )
The same thing? Hardly!
One encourages players to be active and allows players of all skill levels to benefit, while the other drives up the price of PLEX, pushing people out of the game.
Dear eve players, please try and use the word "content" less and instead, be specific. Thanks
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1831
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Posted - 2015.10.21 15:42:17 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:The spawn rate seems to have dropped significantly. Yesterday I could find the Blood Raider beacons anywhere. Today, nadda. Agreed, they where all over yesterday. Not a single one seen today
I've found about 12 so far today. Lots of folks are out looking for them.
I absolutely love that I can run them with a PVP fit Confessor.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Random McNally
The Vendunari End of Life
99954
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:19:20 -
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Funny, ran one on an industry alt last night and didn't get squat.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
473
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:33:47 -
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Seems like the site would be more competitive if the BC spawned as a final wave after all the cruiser waves. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1832
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:47:48 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Seems like the site would be more competitive if the BC spawned as a final wave after all the cruiser waves.
This is true.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1832
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Posted - 2015.10.21 17:13:52 -
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Having run nearly 50 sites, I have to say this is as close as Eve can ever come to grinding for skill points.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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T'l Deem
Zelotic Economics Karezza Rabbit Wholes
1
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Posted - 2015.10.21 18:43:50 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:... And then there is the Executioner Blood Raider skin, which actually has a unique, not mirrored skin for the ship.
Actually the Blood Raider skinned Executioner is mirrored, just not left to right like you are talking about with the Harby, and Omen, but top to bottom. Just look at that Blood Raiders Executioner and look at just the top and bottom when you rotate the ship. The "top left" becomes the "bottom right" and vice versa. I would hazard a guess that most things that are skinned in EVE are mirrored. But isn't mirroring a very common practice in uses like this? I don't know as I am not even a graphical dabbler. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
1010
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Posted - 2015.10.21 20:22:27 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:Steijn wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:The spawn rate seems to have dropped significantly. Yesterday I could find the Blood Raider beacons anywhere. Today, nadda. im finding the sites, but not getting any BCs in the room. Is this how its meant to be? Ive heard the BC is always there, has it been changed? if the warpin is empty and the second room only has cruisers, someone ran it already and didn't clear out the rest of the rats.
warpin wasnt empty, had waves of frigs which i killed first before gate would let me in. Did have 1 later where someone else activated gate slightly before me, but not the 1 i posted about.. |
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Agony Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.10.21 22:58:31 -
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Ran a site.. cleared it. Spent 10 mins looking for a wreck/can.. then looking on forums. Didn't find any loot. So I decided to try another site. Got into a PVP battle over the next site.. yeh i lost... and find out the SKIN was already in my cargo. Thanks for the heads up CCP!
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
475
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Posted - 2015.10.21 23:13:01 -
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Annexe wrote:Ran a site.. cleared it. Spent 10 mins looking for a wreck/can.. then looking on forums. Didn't find any loot. So I decided to try another site. Got into a PVP battle over the next site.. yeh i lost... and find out the SKIN was already in my cargo. Thanks for the heads up CCP!
They did say it was a reward not loot. |
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.21 23:25:08 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Annexe wrote:Ran a site.. cleared it. Spent 10 mins looking for a wreck/can.. then looking on forums. Didn't find any loot. So I decided to try another site. Got into a PVP battle over the next site.. yeh i lost... and find out the SKIN was already in my cargo. Thanks for the heads up CCP! They did say it was a reward not loot.
Sorry, I don't carebear much so didn't realise 'reward' meant it gets put into your cargo-hold automatically :)
Annexe
ITAI - VIP
"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
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Circumstantial Evidence
232
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Posted - 2015.10.22 02:50:45 -
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I've managed to solo 2 gauntlets; the first on day 1, and then today. Got an accelerator on the first day, none in today's site. BC was in the first wave of cruisers, I shot that first , then the 2nd wave - no accelerator. Guess it has a chance of dropping, not guaranteed ;)
BR skin appeared in cargo. I think that mechanic is a nice consolation prize for a player who does most of the work, only to have the accelerator snatched out from under them. |
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
282
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Posted - 2015.10.22 03:50:11 -
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Got s site it last night before I logged. Warped in to 5 frigs, cleared them then cruisers and 1 bc warped in and I dispatched them. Only one wreck was lootable which had an BR cerebral accelerator in it. Took gate to next room and there were a handful of cruisers with some destroyable large collidable objects that produced no loot whatsoever after I destroyed npcs and objects alike. After docking in station I noticed a abaddon BR SKIN in my cargo, not sure when it was placed there but it wasn't there before I started the gauntlet.
It would make more sense (unless I'm missing something altogether) for the loot to be presented at the end of the guantleet or what's the purpose of even going into the second area. It was fun although way to easy, I see the excitement quickly wearing thin. Having them be the difficulty of the system they're in would help with that ie; harder sites would be in low-sec and null while easier sites are located in high-sec.
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Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
2040
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Posted - 2015.10.22 08:07:04 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote:I've managed to solo 2 gauntlets; the first on day 1, and then today. Got an accelerator on the first day, none in today's site. BC was in the first wave of cruisers, I shot that first , then the 2nd wave - no accelerator. Guess it has a chance of dropping, not guaranteed ;)
BR skin appeared in cargo. I think that mechanic is a nice consolation prize for a player who does most of the work, only to have the accelerator snatched out from under them.
I don't think there is a second wave of cruisers is there? Either way I don't bother killing them. I just kill the BC, grab the loot and warp out... Found about 6 accelerators so far in wormhole space and have collected 10 skins, which I believe is given to the person that gets the final blow on the BC.
@ CCP are we supposed to take your lack of further comments as confirmation that the training time is being calculated correctly?
Dear eve players, please try and use the word "content" less and instead, be specific. Thanks
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Ruvin
Out of Sight.
184
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Posted - 2015.10.22 08:41:27 -
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still wondering if 1 skin only for 100$ is intended ...
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
80
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Posted - 2015.10.22 09:50:39 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote: Congratulations on comparing an ingame event which is available to everyone to a pay for features system which favored the rich IRL and older players.
From my point of view, its pretty much the same. I dont think i will have time to play in the next days to participate in the event, so i have to buy the cerebral booster with ISK. Big boost to skill training time or unallocated skill points - in the end its the same for me. |
Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
340
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:07:38 -
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For so many years, and Event, hmm as that strange ..
Quote:and the attacks of Drifters on the Amarr Empire. Where are they are attacking? Where Fleet is fighting a drifter ? Good move. To determine the players will buy for $.
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Zeerse Solaris
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:58:05 -
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Disappointing way to roll out the gauntlets, a security mission would have meant everyone could experience it if they chose, with the beacons approach, its already turned into a small number of farmers jumping on any that spawn. |
Pia Nino
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.10.22 12:02:09 -
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Zeerse Solaris wrote:Disappointing way to roll out the gauntlets, a security mission would have meant everyone could experience it if they chose, with the beacons approach, its already turned into a small number of farmers jumping on any that spawn.
Spent an hour just trying to find one, went through 5 constellations, apprx 30 jumps and haven't found a single site, moreover i know people have multiple alts sitting throughout different systems, HS, LS and Null waiting, farming( i know that for sure cuz i have people in corp farming those in Null). So what about those who don't have multiple accounts and a lifetime to spend looking for a site trying to compete with damn farmers? Exccitement level dropped down real fast, was hoping to get online after being away from eve for some time to find out this event is not for everyone=( Don't mean to complain but im a bit upset |
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Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
2041
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Posted - 2015.10.22 12:23:35 -
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They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while
Dear eve players, please try and use the word "content" less and instead, be specific. Thanks
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Pia Nino
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.22 12:56:43 -
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Rek Seven wrote:They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while edit: Actually I just logged on to check and there is one in my home system i live in Null :) they key part - know where to look, why don't ccp specify where to look and save people some time? i have beacons checked on my OV, bad luck? As i mentioned earlier - some people don't have all day, i spent ab half hour looking for one using ceptors in null and HS with two different chars simultasneously - not a single site. |
Rek Seven
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
2041
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Posted - 2015.10.22 13:19:57 -
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Competition must be high in your corner of the galaxy or I must just be really lucky I guess. CCP not releasing information and letting the workings of new game content be slightly mysterious, is a good thing IMO.
Instead of using a cepter, fit up a ship that can run the site and can probe a wormhole down. I guarantee you will find them in wormhole space.
Dear eve players, please try and use the word "content" less and instead, be specific. Thanks
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1832
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:20:13 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Competition must be high in your corner of the galaxy or I must just be really lucky I guess. CCP not releasing information and letting the workings of new game content be slightly mysterious, is a good thing IMO.
Instead of using a cepter, fit up a ship that can run the site and can probe a wormhole down. I guarantee you will find them in wormhole space.
Quoted for truth. One of my corpmates found a WH in our home system this morning - there were 14 Blood Raider Gauntlet sites inside it.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1832
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:25:50 -
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Zeerse Solaris wrote:Disappointing way to roll out the gauntlets, a security mission would have meant everyone could experience it if they chose, with the beacons approach, its already turned into a small number of farmers jumping on any that spawn.
Everyone can experience it, you just have to get out and look for them. I've run 80 so far. Competition can be fierce, but that is a good thing. I got tired of competing with my alliance mates for them yesterday, so I went into hostile space and started running them. Much more fun that way.
You are applying the term "farming" to it, but what you are really encountering are other players who are more dedicated than you are. If it was some mission, then it could actually be farmed. As it is, these little beacons are great for encouraging player interaction. If you see someone "farming" these sites, you should go shoot them in the face. But that would require acceptance of some risk and effort.
The only thing CCP should change is that the BC should spawn in the last cruiser wave, not the first.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1832
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:30:06 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote: Congratulations on comparing an ingame event which is available to everyone to a pay for features system which favored the rich IRL and older players.
From my point of view, its pretty much the same. I dont think i will have time to play in the next days to participate in the event, so i have to buy the cerebral booster with ISK. Big boost to skill training time or unallocated skill points - in the end its the same for me.
While I have enjoyed the new content, it is pretty much just "grinding for SP."
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
232
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Posted - 2015.10.22 15:11:21 -
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Pia Nino wrote:Rek Seven wrote:They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while edit: Actually I just logged on to check and there is one in my home system i live in Null :) they key part - know where to look, why don't ccp specify where to look and save people some time? i have beacons checked on my OV, bad luck? As i mentioned earlier - some people don't have all day, i spent ab half hour looking for one using ceptors in null and HS with two different chars simultasneously - not a single site.
would you even be able to run it in a ceptor? |
Pia Nino
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.10.22 15:18:17 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Pia Nino wrote:Rek Seven wrote:They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while edit: Actually I just logged on to check and there is one in my home system i live in Null :) they key part - know where to look, why don't ccp specify where to look and save people some time? i have beacons checked on my OV, bad luck? As i mentioned earlier - some people don't have all day, i spent ab half hour looking for one using ceptors in null and HS with two different chars simultasneously - not a single site. would you even be able to run it in a ceptor?
I doubt it, maybe a fac frigate, but that'd be very inefficient. I use fac cruiser
P.S. I've had luck finding a whole bunch after DT today, i guess it was just bad luck for me before, whole region was wiped clean. Im happy i found several in the past hour so im happy now :) |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1834
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Posted - 2015.10.22 17:36:04 -
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Lady Rift wrote:Pia Nino wrote:Rek Seven wrote:They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while edit: Actually I just logged on to check and there is one in my home system i live in Null :) they key part - know where to look, why don't ccp specify where to look and save people some time? i have beacons checked on my OV, bad luck? As i mentioned earlier - some people don't have all day, i spent ab half hour looking for one using ceptors in null and HS with two different chars simultasneously - not a single site. would you even be able to run it in a ceptor?
I have not tried an Interceptor, but I think it could do it if the pilot kept at long range. A Crow could probably manage it okay if the pilot warped in at range to the first beacon and then burned off very fast in the second room.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Alexander Tekitsu
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.10.22 20:03:50 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Lady Rift wrote:Pia Nino wrote:Rek Seven wrote:They are easy to find if you know where to look. Try leaving HS once in a while edit: Actually I just logged on to check and there is one in my home system i live in Null :) they key part - know where to look, why don't ccp specify where to look and save people some time? i have beacons checked on my OV, bad luck? As i mentioned earlier - some people don't have all day, i spent ab half hour looking for one using ceptors in null and HS with two different chars simultasneously - not a single site. would you even be able to run it in a ceptor? I have not tried an Interceptor, but I think it could do it if the pilot kept at long range. A Crow could probably manage it okay if the pilot warped in at range to the first beacon and then burned off very fast in the second room. I roamed around a bit yesterday, found 6 sites ( just casually looking around ), out of those I got a total of 8 boosters. I'm not running them to make isk or farm them, I just don't want to pay for them :P
I started running them in an RLM Caracal which did them with ease ( PvP Buffer fit ) esp when you warp at range and catch them MWDing towards you, but later found a PvP fit Retribution runs them faster ( reload time on RLM vs no reload for lasers ). I thought about trying it in a Light missile cepter ( keep range to avoid webs ) but decided the anemic DPS would have made it painfully slow. Also tried a Vengeance, but found that you had to use faction rockets just to cut them down at almost the same speed as Scorch or Conflag. I imagine a Confessor would be around the sweet spot for running these and mobility ( as well as probe launcher for wormholing ). |
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