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Kedron Webber
The Amarr Republic Primal Ascendancy
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Posted - 2015.10.24 05:15:03 -
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And Repacked. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. I now have no ships that can do anytyhing with out time and effort put back into them not to mention the ISK for destroying the RIGS.
LAST TIME I USE RED FROG My Courier was RF Gnaeus Crassus |
Kedron Webber
The Amarr Republic Primal Ascendancy
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Posted - 2015.10.24 05:19:06 -
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Kedron Webber wrote:And Repacked. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. I now have no ships that can do anything with out time and effort put back into them not to mention the ISK for destroying the RIGS.
LAST TIME I USE RED FROG My Courier was RF Gnaeus Crassus
Lets see x5 Procurer need to be refit x1 Orca x1 Rattle snake x1 Ravy nave issue x1 Nestor
THis is pathetic.
Keep your distance from RED FROG...use the hauler channel is seems to be least destructive. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
40574
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Posted - 2015.10.24 05:19:10 -
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Where did you contract them from and was it a courier contract, or did you do an item exchange contract?
Also what was the destination?
To be fair to whoever was the Red Frog guy, you can't place fitted ships into a Freighter or Jump Freighter, unless they are in a courier contract, in which case they would have been wrapped in a package.
The smartest way to contract ships is to have them all packaged and just set a courier contract.
If you did something else, more fool you really for not understanding game mechanics and how difficult is it to go buy more rigs for yourself?
I don't really think your whining here is going to have much effect really. Red Frog are the biggest and most successful freight service and they do huge business in hauling. One poor whining review isn't going to make much difference.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Yang Aurilen
Conspiracy Theory. Project.Mayhem.
954
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Posted - 2015.10.24 05:30:42 -
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Kedron Webber wrote:Kedron Webber wrote:And Repacked. THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. I now have no ships that can do anything with out time and effort put back into them not to mention the ISK for destroying the RIGS.
LAST TIME I USE RED FROG My Courier was RF Gnaeus Crassus Lets see x5 Procurer need to be refit x1 Orca x1 Rattle snake x1 Ravy nave issue x1 Nestor THis is pathetic. Keep your distance from RED FROG...use the hauler channel is seems to be least destructive.
So.... you made a contract to red frog and he decided to break open the plastic wrap to repackage all your ship and you had no collateral at all and he returned all those ships he broke out of plastic wrap and gave it back to you via contract/trade?
Because that's the only scenario I'm thinking of. Also burn the heretic for talking **** to red frog. I propose we make a pot money with chribba 3rd party to pay mercs to wardec him.
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.24 06:08:48 -
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or
you could buy a bowhead and move them yourself you cheap ass. |
Jajuka Cirim
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Posted - 2015.10.24 06:28:07 -
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Knowing several things about the courier system, and how RFF functions, there are several things which must be true about this highly unlikely scenario as described.
1) You made 4-5 courier contracts, each with 1B ISK collateral, per RFF policies. If this is not true then you are at fault. If you are referring to Blue or Black frog (which I believe you might be), then you are not doing your part of describing your scenario correctly, and our advice is useless as is your complaint.
2) Your courier contracts were all failed in order to break the wrap and repackage it, meaning you receive the collateral, and you *still* received the repackaged ships back via item exchange. That is testament to RFF honesty. That pilot is now out a billion ISK per shipment (assuming you did the contract correctly), and still gave your gear back, safely delivered.
3) You made several courier contracts to fit inside a highsec freighter, and grossly undervalued the collateral for the fitted Nestor, and likely the other ships as well. Apparently you got it all back minus the rigs. I'd say that's impressive for an RFF pilot, but again I suspect you really mean Blue Frog.
Obviously #2 makes absolutely no sense in real terms. Why on earth would they even bother? It also means the senior management did not vet the contracts, and the pilot would also be sternly reprimanded for breaking the contract without contacting you about fixing it for their policies. If this was Blue Frog, it would be impossible for those ships to fit in a jump freighter packaged, and you do not understand the courier system. Your contracts should have all been rejected.
Another possibility is that you repackaged the ships yourself remotely before contracting them. If you did that, there would be almost no indication through the asset or contracts UI unless you were paying close attention. There would've been a prompt about breaking rigs, and the delay for the Assets window would not show any change.
One of the above is the only way what you described could happen. RFF has system checks in place to stop any number of such mistakes. Not to mention experienced pilots, and we've established that it wasn't a thief.
(Also a fitted Nestor? Seriously?) |
Tiagra May
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.24 06:54:00 -
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lol |
Yang Aurilen
Conspiracy Theory. Project.Mayhem.
955
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Posted - 2015.10.24 07:10:44 -
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WARDEC WARDEC WARDEC! Teach the OP a lesson in stupidity.
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
419
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Posted - 2015.10.24 07:56:42 -
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C&P rules hearing!
Kedron, you stand accused of attempting to scam red-frog and besmirch their fine reputation, how do you plead? |
Mir Jana
Copper Serpents
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Posted - 2015.10.24 08:32:56 -
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They hate you!!! Thats why they stripped you.
Face it, you were adopted and no one likes you. |
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1729
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Posted - 2015.10.24 09:11:06 -
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didnt realise you could courier contract an orca
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25487
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Posted - 2015.10.24 09:13:21 -
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Can the stripes be custom colours?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Trajan Unknown
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
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Posted - 2015.10.24 13:34:10 -
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This totally reminds me of this people who do something completely stupid, have just enough brain to realise what they did but not enough to realise, when they blame someone else for it, it looks completely ********.
Non the less, bad, bad frogs, you always deliver my stuff without sorting it into the right containers of mine. :D :P |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12529
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Posted - 2015.10.24 13:37:31 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:C&P rules hearing!
Kedron, you stand accused of attempting to scam red-frog and besmirch their fine reputation, how do you plead? C&P court has no jurisdiction in GD, here be trolls
Better the Devil you know.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1730
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Posted - 2015.10.24 13:42:13 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tisiphone Dira wrote:C&P rules hearing!
Kedron, you stand accused of attempting to scam red-frog and besmirch their fine reputation, how do you plead? C&P court has no jurisdiction in GD, here be trolls
flagged to isd for removal to the relevant forum
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12529
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Posted - 2015.10.24 13:44:12 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tisiphone Dira wrote:C&P rules hearing!
Kedron, you stand accused of attempting to scam red-frog and besmirch their fine reputation, how do you plead? C&P court has no jurisdiction in GD, here be trolls flagged to isd for removalextradition to the relevant forumauthority
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Better the Devil you know.
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
1064
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Posted - 2015.10.24 15:15:49 -
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I second the flag, I would love to hear this case. Please ISD throw him to the wolfs
Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896
Free The Scope Three
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Paranoid Loyd
7287
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Posted - 2015.10.24 15:31:23 -
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You ****** up and no one else.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2015.10.24 15:59:24 -
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So you decide to come to the forums, to lie and whine about one of EvEs most loved player-made services?
Not smart... Not smart at all. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.10.24 16:05:20 -
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You have besmirched a fine corporation.
But I'm glad you did as I so rarely get to use the word besmirched these days.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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The Barrister
Huckleberry Inc
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Posted - 2015.10.24 16:16:36 -
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I hereby approve Lan Wang's petition for transfer of this matter to C&P under the doctrine of forum non conveniens per 28 U.S.C. -º 1406(a).
I order Kedron Webber to report to C&P for trial within 24 hours of this notice. Fail to appear will result in his being tried in absentia.
Normal C&P protocols will be in place. Court personnel and representatives for all parties will be selected per C&P local rules.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
The Barrister |
Xearal
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
949
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Posted - 2015.10.24 16:34:12 -
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FOR SALE:
Popcorn bags, extra extra large, only 500.000,00 ISK per bag!
I also have a good deal on tinfoil hats if you are interested.
Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25494
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Posted - 2015.10.24 16:53:42 -
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The OP when he posted this train wreck of a thread.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1942
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Posted - 2015.10.24 21:22:33 -
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Lan Wang wrote:didnt realise you could courier contract an orca it is apparently 500,000m3 so you could courier contract it, but it would have to be packaged. BS can get shipped while assembled (and thus fit/'rigged)
anyways this thread seems odd, but I'd guess the OP did something wrong.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
291
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Posted - 2015.10.24 21:30:44 -
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It's almost as if this thread is full of people who have alts hauling for RF. |
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
127
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Posted - 2015.10.24 21:36:58 -
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Never let the truth stand in the way of justice......er, wait a minute!.......
To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.
...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
628
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Posted - 2015.10.24 22:15:21 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Lan Wang wrote:didnt realise you could courier contract an orca it is apparently 500,000m3 so you could courier contract it, but it would have to be packaged.
wut? 500k m3? Always thought it's over 1.0m m3 repacked.
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Chandelin
Chaos From Order SpaceMonkey's Alliance
9
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Posted - 2015.10.24 22:31:41 -
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Sounds to me you ere being a cheap ass and repackaged everything to fit in 1 freighter.
Also a couple of rules of Red Frog Freight club .
Welcome to Freight Club.
The first rule of Freight Club is: you do not talk about Freight Club. The second rule of Freight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Freight Club! Third rule of Freight Club: someone yells "stop bitchin!", goes limp, taps out, whines in forums you are automatically set up for inbound wars. |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
399
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Posted - 2015.10.24 23:12:16 -
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*jumps on dog pile*
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
524
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Posted - 2015.10.24 23:14:40 -
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Red Frog is an excellent Courier service. I've used them for years and never had a bad experience. I would like to know what you did wrong.
The Law is a point of View
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