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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:23:16 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:That would make it the Internal Affairs departments business, not ours.
I would suggest if you or someone else has proof that something inappropriate is occurring, speak up now.
However if all you have to offer is simply insisting you should be privy to the details of a game companies private business dealings, because you think that you are entitled to confidential information simply because you are a customer, then it's time to stop wasting everyone's time. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1318670671/fountain-war-book Quote:Pledge $200 or more
1 backer Limited (49 left of 50)
ROAM NEW EDEN WITH THE MITTANI
Join The Mittani in a romp across space. Warning: your safety is not guaranteed. If Eveiseasy were not allowed to sell pvp advice then this surely constitutes a similar breach of the EULA, they've already changed the $200 pledge reward from a mittens corpse (selling an actual in game item for R/L cash). I would say the fact that they've not once but twice broken the EULA in ways that have seen other groups penalised is enough to raise a few legitimate questions about CCP giving themittani.com privileged status. The possibility that probably checked with CCP when they changed the corpse to a roam with mittani raises further questions about said privileged status. Have you reported it to the Internal Affairs Dept? If not, why not?
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:24:57 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I'm unaware of the Eveiseasy monetisation plan or what went down there, did he present it to CCP for approval, or did he just go ahead and do it?
Does it make a difference? The CCP's reaction to EiE making money off of pvp advice set a precedent. Does asking CCP first make it ok for one group rather than another ? Does CCP allowing one group to do it and not another not give the impression of privileged status for the group they allow to do it ?
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:27:59 -
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Ranger 1 wrote: Somebody nudge me if this thread ever elevates beyond wild, baseless speculation.
Did you not see the kickstarter campaign?
I don't know that ccp should prevent people from getting real money for in game services like eveiseasy or roams with mittani. But if they prevent one person from doing it then they should apply the same rules to everyone.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25643
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:31:12 -
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mech res wrote:I like the argument that if CCP approves the rmt then its not rmt. Arguably, in a broad sense, it could be considered RMT, so I'll rephrase it just for you.
It's illegal RMT when you exceed the bounds of any approval you do have as happened with Somer Blink, or you do it without CCP approval at all. The fact that CCP have approved this means that it is legal RMT.
Legal and illegal being defined by CCP.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25643
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:33:36 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I'm unaware of the Eveiseasy monetisation plan or what went down there, did he present it to CCP for approval, or did he just go ahead and do it?
Does it make a difference? The CCP's reaction to EiE making money off of pvp advice set a precedent. Does asking CCP first make it ok for one group rather than another ? Does CCP allowing one group to do it and not another not give the impression of privileged status for the group they allow to do it ? It makes all the difference in the world, if he didn't go to CCP then he falls foul of the rules, if he did go to CCP and then exceeded the limits of any approval he may have gotten, then he falls foul of the rules.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12886
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:41:16 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The amazing thing about this and the other complaints constantly filled here is that these grievances generate enough outrage on the part of the poster to warrant posting about it, trying to get people riled up and in agreement.....
...But somehow this outrageous thing is not outrageous enough to make them want to stop giving this supposedly horrible game company their money. I simply don't get it, people like this are literally saying "I don't trust you because what you are doing si underhanded, , oh and btw heres 15 bucks, enjoy!". And if people just came in here making ragequit posts before asking questions and getting answers you'd point out they were being stupid quitting over something they had no proof was even happening. Asking questions about a game you enjoy playing before you rashly quit is a reasonable response Jenn.
You know that the people making the complaints never quit.
On top of that, the OP isn't asking a question, he already believes "foul play" is occurring. And he's said nothing about leaving or refusing to give CCP money. That's the point, if you don't like what a company does (notice the OPs use of the term "double standard"), your choice is 'give them more money/stop giving them money' and that's it.
Threads like these aren't some kind of public service, they are attempts at manipulation, fueled by what looks an awful lot like prejudice against a certain group (Goons) and/or outright jealousy.. The subject under discussion is no one's business except CCP and whatever Mittens wants to call his company.
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:42:23 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Portmanteau wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I'm unaware of the Eveiseasy monetisation plan or what went down there, did he present it to CCP for approval, or did he just go ahead and do it?
Does it make a difference? The CCP's reaction to EiE making money off of pvp advice set a precedent. Does asking CCP first make it ok for one group rather than another ? Does CCP allowing one group to do it and not another not give the impression of privileged status for the group they allow to do it ? It makes all the difference in the world, if he didn't go to CCP then he falls foul of the rules, if he did go to CCP and then exceeded the limits of any approval he may have gotten, then he falls foul of the rules.
So it's ok because CCP <3 mittens but didn't <3 Garmon et al. Sorry but as players, when we see CEO's of EvE powerblocs ask if they can break the EULA and get told by CCP "sure, no problem" (if that happened, we don't know) I'd say that's even worse since CCP have knowingly bestowed privileged status upon a player/group of players.
*again, we do not know if this happened which is why we are asking*
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:44:16 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Portmanteau wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The amazing thing about this and the other complaints constantly filled here is that these grievances generate enough outrage on the part of the poster to warrant posting about it, trying to get people riled up and in agreement.....
...But somehow this outrageous thing is not outrageous enough to make them want to stop giving this supposedly horrible game company their money. I simply don't get it, people like this are literally saying "I don't trust you because what you are doing si underhanded, , oh and btw heres 15 bucks, enjoy!". And if people just came in here making ragequit posts before asking questions and getting answers you'd point out they were being stupid quitting over something they had no proof was even happening. Asking questions about a game you enjoy playing before you rashly quit is a reasonable response Jenn. You know that the people making the complaints never quit. On top of that, the OP isn't asking a question, he already believes "foul play" is occurring. And he's said nothing about leaving or refusing to give CCP money. That's the point, if you don't like what a company does (notice the OPs use of the term "double standard"), your choice is 'give them more money/stop giving them money' and that's it. Threads like these aren't some kind of public service, they are attempts at manipulation, fueled by what looks an awful lot like prejudice against a certain group (Goons) and/or outright jealousy.. The subject under discussion is no one's business except CCP and whatever Mittens wants to call his company.
I'll respectfully disagree and leave it at that
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12886
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:48:25 -
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Portmanteau wrote:
So it's ok because CCP <3 mittens but didn't <3 Garmon et al.
If that's how they want to do it, then yea it's ok. Their company, their game, their rules, when they do something i don't like i'll stop paying them, if they actually harm me in some way (I don't know how, this is a video game) then i'd sue them in some Icelandic Court.
But this childish attempt at starting some kind of online witch hunt because people don't like some slightly bearded internet dude is stupid. If "EVEiseasy" has a complaint about this, they also should take it up with that Icelandic Court named in the EULA. |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:55:31 -
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Why the obsession with legalities ? This is surely more to do with the players' perception of whether CCP favours in game players/groups and it's a perception they take seriously, hence the formation of the CSM after T2bpogate.
This "take it up with Icelandic courts" stuff is a massive strawman |
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:00:24 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Portmanteau wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The amazing thing about this and the other complaints constantly filled here is that these grievances generate enough outrage on the part of the poster to warrant posting about it, trying to get people riled up and in agreement.....
...But somehow this outrageous thing is not outrageous enough to make them want to stop giving this supposedly horrible game company their money. I simply don't get it, people like this are literally saying "I don't trust you because what you are doing si underhanded, , oh and btw heres 15 bucks, enjoy!". And if people just came in here making ragequit posts before asking questions and getting answers you'd point out they were being stupid quitting over something they had no proof was even happening. Asking questions about a game you enjoy playing before you rashly quit is a reasonable response Jenn. You know that the people making the complaints never quit. On top of that, the OP isn't asking a question, he already believes "foul play" is occurring. And he's said nothing about leaving or refusing to give CCP money. That's the point, if you don't like what a company does (notice the OPs use of the term "double standard"), your choice is 'give them more money/stop giving them money' and that's it. Threads like these aren't some kind of public service, they are attempts at manipulation, fueled by what looks an awful lot like prejudice against a certain group (Goons) and/or outright jealousy.. The subject under discussion is no one's business except CCP and whatever Mittens wants to call his company.
I asked what ccp gave the mittani. CCP Falcon said they gave rights to the ip to use in the book. He didn't say that was all they gave. I am not sure if that is all they gave, so I am asking.
Then this issue of rmt came up and I was not aware that eveiseasy was prevented from getting real money for their in game services. I am not sure they should have been, but if they were, then it would seem the mittani should play by the same rules. Maybe allowing him to rmt these roam was also part of the deal, I don't know so that is another question.
You may like the mittani or like the idea of this book, but even you I would hope, can understand that ccp should not give him special rights to break rules they set up for other players. Rather than disparage people who ask for an explanation, maybe you can explain why what eveiseasy was doing is different than mittani taking money for roams.
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Ao Kishuba
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:08:54 -
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You people commenting on the Mittani's real life ought to be ashamed. You are no better than mittens, nor than the organization of self-proclaimed doxxers he supports. This is for EVE discussion, and being angry does not make you immune to the rules anymore than being space-important would.
If the issue is with RMT on kickstarter, keep it that way; otherwise, you're just supporting the CFC by diluting the topic and derailing the thread.
The issue at hand has been pretty well covered by other posts. The evidence is known, and CCP can act as they well please. We players can only wait for their decision at this point. If we don't like their reaction, we can make a big stink about it then. Anything beyond that would be at best pointless, wild speculation at this time. |
Estelie Heyan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:24:20 -
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This entire thread is moot because nothing has changed hands. The Kickstarter doesn't close for almost 5 weeks. Until then The Mittani can't collect the money, so nothing so far has been exchanged. At best it's a gentleman's agreement that either party has plenty of time to alter or back out of.
The stretch goal was changed, obviously it was a misunderstanding about what can and cant be offered to backers. Sorry your gotcha moment is a dud. |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12887
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:27:33 -
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mech res wrote:
You may like the mittani or like the idea of this book, but even you I would hope, can understand that ccp should not give him special rights to break rules they set up for other players. Rather than disparage people who ask for an explanation, maybe you can explain why what eveiseasy was doing is different than mittani taking money for roams.
I don't know the guy, have never met the guy, and I have been shooting at his Goons in this game since 2008 (and I had jsut join my current alliance right before the war started, so i was only 'blue to Goons' for a few weeks, and even that was hard). I don't care about him and won't be buying his book (when I want to remember the fountain War I'll go back and look at some killmails, i was there).
But that doesn't make me blind to how..wrong..your posting about all this is. It's one or two guys being jealous about what's going on with some other internet guy and then not understanding why the rest of us just don't care. You know you aren't asking a question here, it's plain to see what you think about all this by the very existence of this thread.
TL;DR You have the right to talk about whatever your want to, just don't expect everyone to share your concerns about something that has nothing to do with us. |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12887
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:32:11 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Why the obsession with legalities ? This is surely more to do with the players' perception of whether CCP favours in game players/groups and it's a perception they take seriously, hence the formation of the CSM after T2bpogate.
This "take it up with Icelandic courts" stuff is a massive strawman
To some, everything is a 'strawman'. I'm not trying to deflect anything, I'm saying that if you have a problem with something, do something about it (quit, sue, whatever) or stfu. Worrying about who CCP is favoring is simply evidence of jealousy, and posts like this is manipulations masquerading as questions. Moot questions at that, CCP ain't going to tell you if they give Mittens something more than permission anyway.
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:41:46 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:This entire thread is moot because nothing has changed hands. The Kickstarter doesn't close for almost 5 weeks. Until then The Mittani can't collect the money, so nothing so far has been exchanged. At best it's a gentleman's agreement that either party has plenty of time to alter or back out of.
The stretch goal was changed, obviously it was a misunderstanding about what can and cant be offered to backers. Sorry your gotcha moment is a dud.
Possibly... or perhaps it was all fine until *players* noticed it (twice) and brought it to wider attention. The fact it has been changed (twice) doesn't really make the questions about CCP/Mittani relations go away, it just confirms *something* is off...
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
16886
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:48:33 -
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mech res wrote:
I asked what ccp gave the mittani. CCP Falcon said they gave rights to the ip to use in the book. He didn't say that was all they gave. I am not sure if that is all they gave, so I am asking.
The fox news tactic.
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:48:49 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Portmanteau wrote:Why the obsession with legalities ? This is surely more to do with the players' perception of whether CCP favours in game players/groups and it's a perception they take seriously, hence the formation of the CSM after T2bpogate.
This "take it up with Icelandic courts" stuff is a massive strawman To some, everything is a 'strawman'. I'm not trying to deflect anything, I'm saying that if you have a problem with something, do something about it (quit, sue, whatever) or stfu. Worrying about who CCP is favoring is simply evidence of jealousy, and posts like this is manipulations masquerading as questions. Moot questions at that, CCP ain't going to tell you if they give Mittens something more than permission anyway.
The OP just asked a question, you extrapolated that question into some bollocks about taking it to court, nobody has suggested that court is where this should end up, merely that questions be answered.
It's a total strawman.
Also you offer a lovely false dichotomy there as well when you suggest that if we don't like something we should quit or sue, how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?
It seems like you have no point to make unless twisting people's arguments into one logical fallacy or another.
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
38473
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:50:09 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:. I see your point... not sure I agree with it, though.
So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.
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Estelie Heyan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:50:09 -
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I'm gonna bite one more time then leave you lemmings to circle the same dumb arguement over and over. Yall are having a hard time separating the ingame character The Mittani from The Mittani MediaGäó
If the 150K goal is not met, TMC can't buy a year of Jeff Edwards' time + CCP's cut and the project is abandoned.
Mittens doesnt get anything personally from this deal except the accomplishment/ gift to the community of this book. |
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:07:45 -
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Estelie Heyan wrote:I'm gonna bite one more time then leave you lemmings to circle the same dumb arguement over and over. Yall are having a hard time separating the ingame character The Mittani from The Mittani MediaGäó
If the 150K goal is not met, TMC can't buy a year of Jeff Edwards' time + CCP's cut and the project is abandoned.
Mittens doesnt get anything personally from this deal except the accomplishment/ gift to the community of this book.
Wait, TMM will be giving this book away for nothing ?
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12888
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:11:43 -
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Portmanteau wrote:
The OP just asked a question, you extrapolated that question into some bollocks about taking it to court, nobody has suggested that court is where this should end up, merely that questions be answered.
That's bull. The OP obvious has a problem with all this.
Quote: It's a total strawman.
The real irony is that you calling this a strawman is in itself a strawman attempt.
Lets be clear. You and the OP can dislike mittani, Goons, CCP whatever all you like. And you can pretend you are simply 'asking a question" when your posting suggests you already "know" the answer. But others of us are just going to call it like we see it.
Quote: Also you offer a lovely false dichotomy there as well when you suggest that if we don't like something we should quit or sue, how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?[/quote[
Now your just lying. like the OP, you mind is already made up and you know it. You wouldn't have posted in the manner you have unless your mind was made up. Your distrust of CCP is showing.
A CCP employer posted in this thread the answer to the OPs 'question', yet the OP does not relent, suggesting that the IOP doesn't trust CCP...
....which come back to my original statement about him (and you): if you don't trust the people you are paying, why are you paying them? If you have to question what they are doing in the 1st place, why are you paying them?
[quote] It seems like you have no point to make unless twisting people's arguments into one logical fallacy or another.
I'm not twisting anything. I'm just 'asking a question'......
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CrewSandwich
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:12:21 -
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Portmanteau wrote:Estelie Heyan wrote:I'm gonna bite one more time then leave you lemmings to circle the same dumb arguement over and over. Yall are having a hard time separating the ingame character The Mittani from The Mittani MediaGäó
If the 150K goal is not met, TMC can't buy a year of Jeff Edwards' time + CCP's cut and the project is abandoned.
Mittens doesnt get anything personally from this deal except the accomplishment/ gift to the community of this book. Wait, TMM will be giving this book away for nothing ? I dunno dude would you like to raise these funds and put together something like this and devote your time, effort and energy, then deal with all this grief from the community?
Its like going to Time Warner Cable and demanding to know the financials of the deal they cut with mom & pop electricians for line service in Toldeo, Ohio. |
Terminal Insanity
Pwn 'N Play SpaceMonkey's Alliance
818
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:14:13 -
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Nafensoriel wrote:Yeah its getting mildly disturbing that people today assume all game IP lore doesn't belong to the developer. They own the EVE world.. to do anything EVE related CCP needs to give you their nod of approval or explicitly state you can play in their proverbial sandbox of dreams.
Also Mittens Gets Kittens. Oh come on.. admit it Kittens even make putin look soft and cuddly. Grr goons to aww kittens.
personally, i find it distrubing that people even subscribe to the idea of copyright. Stealing physical objects is one thing. taking a picture of the Mona Lisa should not be considered grand theft.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:18:44 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Portmanteau wrote:
The OP just asked a question, you extrapolated that question into some bollocks about taking it to court, nobody has suggested that court is where this should end up, merely that questions be answered.
That's bull. The OP obvious has a problem with all this. Quote: It's a total strawman.
The real irony is that you calling this a strawman is in itself a strawman attempt. Lets be clear. You and the OP can dislike mittani, Goons, CCP whatever all you like. And you can pretend you are simply 'asking a question" when your posting suggests you already "know" the answer. But others of us are just going to call it like we see it. Quote: Also you offer a lovely false dichotomy there as well when you suggest that if we don't like something we should quit or sue, how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?[/quote[
Now your just lying. like the OP, you mind is already made up and you know it. You wouldn't have posted in the manner you have unless your mind was made up. Your distrust of CCP is showing.
A CCP employer posted in this thread the answer to the OPs 'question', yet the OP does not relent, suggesting that the IOP doesn't trust CCP...
....which come back to my original statement about him (and you): if you don't trust the people you are paying, why are you paying them? If you have to question what they are doing in the 1st place, why are you paying them?
[quote] It seems like you have no point to make unless twisting people's arguments into one logical fallacy or another.
I'm not twisting anything. I'm just 'asking a question'......
Jenn, nowhere has the OP stated a dislike for Mittens, I myself have no particular dislike for Mittens or Goons, I have actually stated in this thread already that this book could be good for EvE/CCP by bringing favorable exposure. Your whole argument seems to rely on your speculation about people's motives.
In other words, your argument is bollocks. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1314
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:34:25 -
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Portmanteau wrote: how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?
That sentence implies you didn't make your mind up before you posted
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:41:16 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Portmanteau wrote: how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?
That sentence implies you didn't make your mind up before you posted
Not sure if you're making a joke, accusing me of something or I just got whooshed
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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:41:38 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Portmanteau wrote: how about we exercise a more measured option and just ask what actually happened and then make our minds up ?
That sentence implies you didn't make your mind up before you posted
I didn't make up my mind before I posted. If the only thing ccp did was give him the right to use eve and eve trademarked names in the book then I support their decision - assuming they would give it to other players. Which they apparently have.
Jenn aSide wrote:Worrying about who CCP is favoring is simply evidence of jealousy, and posts like this is manipulations masquerading as questions. Moot questions at that, CCP ain't going to tell you if they give Mittens something more than permission anyway.
Heres the thing. CCP should apply the same rules to all the players.
Jealously, likes, and dislikes should play no role.
As has been said there are some things in the kickstarter that seem to go against CCP's rmt rulings. It has been documented so we can just wait to see if ccp responds.
I would still like to have it confirmed that allowing the book to use the ip is the only involvment ccp has with this project. I would hope after the t2bpo scandal ccp would be transparent.
Some goon is now saying that mittani is not getting the profits from the book and only ccp and the author are. He didn't give a source though. So who knows? Is there a partnership between ccp and the mittani where they share profits or not?
As far as CCP supporting propaganda for a particular alliance, I don't think we can unring that bell. Whats done is done. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1316
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:43:08 -
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mech res wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.
Thanks for the information. If this is as far as it goes, I am glad ccp is doing this - assuming they would do this for other players and not just one. Is that as far as the support goes? Saying CCP is "collaborat[ing]" with the mittani and the author seems to imply a bit more. But those are the mittani's words not CCP's and I have learned to take his word with a grain of salt.
Stop looking for a scandal where there isn't one...
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
38474
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Posted - 2015.11.04 19:43:50 -
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After reading (mostly) through the replies, am I understanding the arguments correctly that someone is saying the reward of being allowed to go on a roam with The Mittani for a certain level of backing to the kickstarter is RMT? Can someone explain that deranged logic to me? Or straighten out my understanding if that's not what's being said.
I can technically understand the concern about his corpse being offered, but as the corpse doesn't have an actual use in game mechanics or provide any bonus, wtf really cares?
So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.
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