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Leto Twin
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:28:00 -
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So, since Ollo was flamed so far that now he probably tastes like boot, I would like to point out a new, uhmmm, coincidence that has occured.
I am prepared for the flames, you have to be once you join this alliance.
But sit down for this, for Leto is about to tell you a story:
A few systems away from Bhizheba there was a group (note: group does not mean blob, rather a few or a couple would be closer to the truth) of Privateers, doing their stuff. Ganking, yarring and generally bumping and shooting stuff. One had a glorius idea, and that idea included a pipe, some ships and tents.
Into Tash-Murkon we go, me gaily typing along to the glorious lyrics of Tenacious D. 'Light up the stage, 'cuz it's time for a showdown.' Little did I know what fate those words would bring me.
In Tash-Murkon there were CVA, they put up good fights. Into Bhizheba we went. There was one little red box with a star in it, and he was not at our gate. One person was sent to check the stations and we waited at Tash-Murkon gate, to hopefully snag some CVA coming through. None did and the station report came back as clear.
One person was left to watch the Tash gate, made sense since there were war-targets in Tash-Murkon, and we were hungry for corpses (BTW, where are our x-mas presents CCP? I want to shoot some corpses!). The rest warped to the Amarr gate. Lo and behold there was a shiny Thorax with drones deployed. We had firepower enough, or so we though to destroy this lonely Thorax.
Engaged as we were we still noticed that the local was rising, and the Privateer on the Tash gate noticed it as well, and said no one had come through his side. The group (couple) of us who had engaged the Thorax were a hefty 500m from the Amarr gate. Oooh, no activation here.
By now the local reds had risen from one to eight. Weird. And then we same reds come screaming towards us. They had warped in, just as they showed up in local. Could it be?
Login trap.
So, Leto is about to name and shame these individuals.
AXE. Sorry guys. Apparently blobs just don't cut it anymore?
Ollo was right, population of EVE-O, we have the killboards to prove it. And the thought processes. We Privateers pick our fights, and three or four vs eight just isn't one we would choose.
On a good note, the Thorax popped, two of us survived. Bad news, thorax dropped crappy loot, and I can't use the drones.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:46:00 -
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say hi to Le Skunk for me. he is a good guy. and he makes me smile
ps. good luck
For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:51:00 -
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It's empire.
Don't care.
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Leto Twin
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter It's empire.
Don't care.
We kill ISS, here. = ).
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:55:00 -
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Still don't care!
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BoinKlasik
Senkei Jin
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:55:00 -
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quick...lets post about the same thing TWICE and see if it makes ANY DIFFERENCE!
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Frehley on 03/01/2007 20:58:33 Apperntly your friend dident know what a log-in trap was so Axe now showed you how it works. Take it as a lesson so you now know the difference... Just a tip..
Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes
http://www.petitiononline.com/titan147/petition.htmlWe wanna know the truth |
Leto Twin
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: BoinKlasik quick...lets post about the same thing TWICE and see if it makes ANY DIFFERENCE!
Not quite. Different systems means different things. Also his could have been, this one was.
Also much better grammar, spelling, etc.
Annnnnd shows that if his was, that means they do it consistently. Didn't people used to not like RA for the same thing?
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hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:01:00 -
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There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
There are in fact 5 gates like he says above, so...... How do you know they didn't jump in and warp to you? Might even be a very short warp between gates?
Shame some people don't think before posting
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
Total of five in that system.
And address books are a pointless exercise when you just made all of Empire 0.0 for yourself.
I have no opinion on this, except to say there are inevitably lamers on all sides of any war, and pointing the finger at someone only makes things worse when your own side lets you down later.
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hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: hangnoose There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
Total of five in that system.
And address books are a pointless exercise when you just made all of Empire 0.0 for yourself.
I have no opinion on this, except to say there are inevitably lamers on all sides of any war, and pointing the finger at someone only makes things worse when your own side lets you down later.
I still use my adressbook for hostiles.... pointless to some because of local, but I use mine to get an idea of how many people are online, and a general idea about how many people an enemy fleet can muster up if needed.
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matty01
The Priory
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:15:00 -
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i really, really doubt axe would bother with login traps in empire __________________________
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Jezala
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:19:00 -
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I'm betting you guys weren't watching the Romi gate. It's a common mistake b/c a lot of ships travel between Tash and Amarr, but going through Romi is the direct route to Jita from Tash.
...and yes, we do sell and deliver ammo. 425 Express Delivery is available upon request, please see Hans Gates and Marcus Grisbius regarding this option. |
nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: nickky01 on 03/01/2007 21:41:24 http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/lars7480/000wqypf.jpg
whoops, those weren't URL tags -------------------------------------------
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:47:00 -
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Now it's clear why privateers are terrorfied of of anything under 0.5. You're getting pimped slaped by standard 0.0 bait'n'gank tatics.
PS: at least know what a login trap really looks like before screaming it.
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Havras
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:53:00 -
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Pssst.. here is how you tell if it was a log in trap or someone jumping from random gate x in a system with 5 gates...
<puts on captain obvious costume>
Wait.. no. Not even Captain obvious wants to explain something THAT obvious.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Havras Pssst.. here is how you tell if it was a log in trap or someone jumping from random gate x in a system with 5 gates...
<puts on captain obvious costume>
Wait.. no. Not even Captain obvious wants to explain something THAT obvious.
/signed.
Fraps or STFU. Consistently outfoxing your scouts in systems with 5 gates is not grounds to shout "logonski!" every time it happens.
--P
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TrippyX
Caldari The Syndicate Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: TrippyX on 03/01/2007 21:57:56 no matter what you say.. we're still killing you left and right around Jita
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:05:00 -
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Well I guess some corps may change the way they play Eve to counteract you.
It is all fairly baseless stuff coming from you so far though.
I expect there are plenty more adaptation coming your way, so I would not start posting about them all coz:
a. nobody cares you are getting a kicking. b. more people will use the method to kick you.
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CamMan
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Havras Pssst.. here is how you tell if it was a log in trap or someone jumping from random gate x in a system with 5 gates...
<puts on captain obvious costume>
Wait.. no. Not even Captain obvious wants to explain something THAT obvious.
HAhahaha owned!
I completely understand why privateers stick to empire griefing NPC'ers now. And here i was thinking their reputation couldnt get any worse, and they release this thread which effectively says.
"Waaa, we engaged a target and it fired back at us! thats not fair, we lost 2 ships, but we will petition them"
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Grimpak
Gallente Twisted Attitude
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Twin stuff
OMG! -------
Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Iteken Hotori
Minmatar GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 03/01/2007 22:45:48 can soemone please explain to a noob how 'Logonski' as it is called is a bad / exploit tactic?
From what i can gather, you park ships in a place, bait a trap, watch with cov-ops talking through teamspeak, then logon when the bait is taken, and win.
This is condonable how ? Warning: May contain flaming, trolling, swearing, typos, crimes against grammar, obscure reference to old films, in jokes, rambling, ranting and references to EvE. |
ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:47:00 -
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nah tbh the 2 ships i lost to axe using this i havent petititioned ill take the loss on the chin yes we were outsmarted by CVA and AXE with their creative use of ts and logging in still reckon if youre not in a mission and u log out then in within 2 minutes or even normally u should be dropped up to 4 au away from youre last point and have a 1 minute cant warp time.
But this should also be concurrent with if u log out while aggroed or in a bubble that u are logged back in at the exact point where u left.
This will fix the logging out to avoid being killed bit and a 30 minute stay in space if u are aggroed or in a bubble. ( will fix RA and others like em again)
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Geeknik
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains nah tbh the 2 ships i lost to axe using this i havent petititioned ill take the loss on the chin yes we were outsmarted by CVA and AXE with their creative use of ts and logging in
So you're saying that AXE & CVA cooperated on a login trap to kill 3-4 of your ships? Or is it just that AXE somehow knew you would be in Bhizheba and all logged off there waiting for your "fleet" to show up?
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Geeknik
Originally by: ollobrains nah tbh the 2 ships i lost to axe using this i havent petititioned ill take the loss on the chin yes we were outsmarted by CVA and AXE with their creative use of ts and logging in
So you're saying that AXE & CVA cooperated on a login trap to kill 3-4 of your ships? Or is it just that AXE somehow knew you would be in Bhizheba and all logged off there waiting for your "fleet" to show up?
no seperate events the axe losses were up near jita earlier in the day. CVA losses i wasnt involved in but they were logging in and off a lot near bhiz as i listened over alliance channel
so yes other privateers are now watching and naming and shaming as they occour.
Please read my posts i should have said they were seperate incidents. But there u go should clarify things for u
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Morden Nok
Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:13:00 -
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Ollo, you're just being stupid. No one is doing log-on traps in empire. Especially not CVA or Axe.
You're just trying to think of excuses as your alliance seems to be performing quite badly against anyone who can fight back. Screaming of logonski when you have zero idea how it has been used shows that.
There's no need for anyone to use log-on tactics on any situation that you have described. They just jumped in from different gate, and warped in. If the gates are close enough, it won't take long.
Well, now that you have succeeded in destroying any credibility that Privateers might have had in some point, I wish you nice fighting. Seems I have to move out from 0.0 back to empire at some point to kill you guys.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains nah tbh the 2 ships i lost to axe using this i havent petititioned ill take the loss on the chin yes we were outsmarted by CVA and AXE with their creative use of ts and logging in still reckon if youre not in a mission and u log out then in within 2 minutes or even normally u should be dropped up to 4 au away from youre last point and have a 1 minute cant warp time.
again)
Firstly although extermly lame login traps are not at this time classifed as an exploit so petetioning it would get you know where.
Secondly in neither thread have you even shown any proof that login traps even took place. Only that you clearly don't understand the method of bait and people jumping into the system.
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:24:00 -
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are log in traps legal yes are they lame yes have CVA and AXE used them yes ( adding names to buddy list and seeing them all log in within 20 seconds of each other and appare on top of the gate) priceless do privateers take losses yes do we petition most dont we have fun we dont mind the losses and despite the chest thumping there are a lot of kills to do we run away from blobs ( aka pick our own fights sure we do) so do cva 3 of their pilots ran away from us just after dt and dockted at station when we had 8 in local
do we care no we went and pawned some FIX and oxide guy that were nearby i logged out to go to bed after that and the bhiz thing occoured a bit after that.
are we having fun and making a profit generally yes.
is privateers full of spies that still get involved and shoot other alliances that their mains hate sure
are we signing up more pirate corps all the time ( surreptitious being CEO is the one to contact) just going on what im hearing yes we are
excluding griefing fellow privateers are we allowed to post on the forums sure
are we respected by the highly structured greedy 0.0 alliances that continue to run missions in empire - probably not
are our killboards accurate mostly yes im one that posts all losses and kills moreso for my own records and self review but also to help keep an accurate picture
i also encourage privateers to post their own killlosses why because we are more about fun and profit than seriousness regarding rankings etc
if some guy losses 20 ships but gets 10 kills but has fun in the process do we care no we just say bad luck offer some advice and move on
are log in traps lame yeah they are but are used by those that take heavy losses and cant run a logged in gang without getting scared.
Privateer members i think are now watching and gathering evidence to name and shame expect more threads to appear as evidence is gathered its all part of the bob type propaganda and naming and shaming lamers as it occours
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Murphy
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains so yes other privateers are now watching and naming and shaming as they occour.
The only people you're naming and shaming are yourselves.
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