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Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.09 15:16:15 -
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hi there,
I am a returning Player and may ask, if a T3 dessy (like Confessor or Hecate) will do as good for DED 4 serpentis sites as say a Navi Vexor (all ships can be T2 fitted, be it tank, weapons or drones)
Really Need some Input on that one!
thanks in advance |
Uriam Khanid
New Machinarium Corporation
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Posted - 2015.11.09 16:05:20 -
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any turret T3 destroyer. |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:23:48 -
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hey Uriam,
can you specify, what do you mean by "any turret T3 destroyer"?
Turret=hybrid, laser, autocannon - but no missiles?
So any T3 dessy, but the caldari one?
best regards |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:25:02 -
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You can do 4/10s in an AF.
just match the resists to the rats and get a repper/small booster. |
Matt Benneth
The Scerge Foundery
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:41:51 -
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Here is Confessor fit I'm using for most hi sec sites.
It can run all 4/10s comfortably and most unrated sites assuming you are familiar with specific site gotchas. |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:52:53 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:You can do 4/10s in an AF.
just match the resists to the rats and get a repper/small booster.
Ok - would an Ishkur be as good (fast) in terms of killspeef, like a Confessor?
So AF=T3 destroyer? |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:53:57 -
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Matt Benneth wrote:Here is Confessor fit I'm using for most hi sec sites. It can run all 4/10s comfortably and most unrated sites assuming you are familiar with specific site gotchas.
Thanks Matt, that-¦s a solid (bit of tanky) fit. Looks good, can you tell if there is a big difference in terms of killspeed compared to an AF? |
Matt Benneth
The Scerge Foundery
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Posted - 2015.11.09 20:19:32 -
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Confessor should be faster. She can do more dps at close while still project around 250 dps at 45+km and unlike Iskhurs drones its instant damage application with no delays . |
Titus Heldane
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.11.09 20:38:26 -
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if you use a worm you can also enter the smaller 1/10 sites which can still offer quite a bit of faction loot. it also has 300 dps out to your drone range and no tracking issues. |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.09 21:57:34 -
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@Matt
Is it save to assume, a Hecate would be better suited for Serpentis, because of better resists? Or is the DMG of a confessor superior and one will take no amage anyways, because of "fly in prop mode"?
I did a 3/10 in my Astero a few minutes ago - I think next time, I will try a T3 destroyer for this. (Last stage took me quiete a while)
@Titus
I will have a look at this one, too!
Thank you guys! |
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Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.10 08:26:13 -
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@Titus
ok, I-¦ve found a good Worm Fitting, but it-¦s Kind of expensive (around 250mil)
So it goes between Worm or Confessor, I guess.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.11.10 12:03:10 -
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[Svipul, pve]
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II
1MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Booster II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S Core Probe Launcher II [Empty High slot]
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator II Small Ancillary Current Router I [Empty Rig slot]
Runs 4/10s without an issue. Also works in each faction's space cause selectable damage. |
Sha'ira Achura
LazyBoyz Band of Recreational Flyers Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2015.11.11 08:53:37 -
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T3D's will run 4/10's just fine but not as fast as you might like. They will travel around quicker than a cruiser but when you're actually in the ded site it might feel slow. I fly around in a 700 dps rlml Gila atm and I like it more than my Confessor.
I might just suck at flying dessies tho :p |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.11 10:52:31 -
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Yes, I read about the Gila - hmmm, 235M just the hull - but it Looks like, it is well worth it.
So Confessor or Gila...
Kind regards |
Matt Benneth
The Scerge Foundery
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Posted - 2015.11.11 12:44:03 -
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Xuczu wrote: So Confessor or Gila...
Why not just try both and see what you like more?
I flew Gila for long time before i moved to Phantasm because i got tired of medium drones being slow and switching targets even more slowly and waiting for 30 seconds for them fly from one trigger in Guristas watch to another trigger on opposite side of the room......
Phantasm was great and almost as tanky as Gila but it still too slow at jumping around.
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Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.11 14:43:56 -
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Good idea, Matt.
I will Train T2 Lazors and jump in the confessor and maybe train for Gila, then. The T3 dessy will serve well for PVP purposes anyways, so allways nice to have in one way or another. Can not see something is wasted, when first fly confessor and then Train for gila.
Confessor will take me just a few days and somewhere between 60-70M or so... no big Investment!
Thanks for all the postings and comments |
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
908
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Posted - 2015.11.12 00:36:13 -
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Confessor or Hecate is nice because you can range tank the sites since they get very long optimal in sharpshooter mode so you can focus on damage. Also instant damage application from turrets is much more efficient than drones in frigate heavy sites which 3 and 4/10s tend to be. I run 2-4/10s for Blood Raiders and Sansha in a PvP fit kite Confessor and it can handle them with no problems and can do them quite fast. |
Xuczu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.16 09:40:35 -
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Great!
I bought a Confessor and train up small beam weapons a bit, so I can use T2 on this ship. Maybe I fit some grav-rigs and see, if the confessor will be ok for scanning, too.
Then it would be kiind of "all into one ship", like a baby-T3 cruiser ;)
Cheers |
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
908
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Posted - 2015.11.17 00:13:54 -
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Xuczu wrote:Great!
I bought a Confessor and train up small beam weapons a bit, so I can use T2 on this ship. Maybe I fit some grav-rigs and see, if the confessor will be ok for scanning, too.
Then it would be kiind of "all into one ship", like a baby-T3 cruiser ;)
Cheers
It also gets CPU bonus for fitting probe launchers so yeah, it can scan quite nicely. You probably don't need grav rigs for highsec combat sites as they are pretty easy to scan especially if you have Astro V and can fit a T2 launcher or just use a sisters launcher. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
910
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Posted - 2015.11.23 00:26:41 -
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Or Stratios with sentries, even has a covert ops cloak.
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manbaerpig el'presedant
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.29 04:40:54 -
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The fessor really is versatile when it comes to low class ded running and many other things. It can handle any 4/10 pretty well. I have done some crazy stuff with the fessor, if flown right it can do a 6/10 if your doing it for fun. Not a 5/10 cause of the webs. With a 10 mn duel or single rep fessor you can also solo a.1 lowsec clone soldier but it is a pretty close fight cause those dudes actually put out good dps an can wreck t1 an some pirate cruisers. Thats a 22 some mil tag ion a t3 dessie, its great for belt running in .1 and .2 lowsec's in prop mode. It can do c3 wolf rayyets, c2,s pretty damn fast an even instrumental gas sites in shattered wh's with c6 wolf rayyet effects for big isk. With gila getting nerf to its lows it wont be the c3 passive site/ded runner its known for or id say use that. But I suggest you stick with the fessor till you move up to t3 cruisers an stuff. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
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Posted - 2015.12.02 13:19:50 -
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Before the Confessor got overnerfed I did some c3 sites in a pulsar. Now it is much, much more difficult.
I would be careful in the Blood Raider DED 4/10 the Zul something Monastary - they neut alot.
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manbaerpig el'presedant
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.02 21:49:31 -
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Yes you gota keep a little range in the 4/10 but really in any blood ded you should stay out of neut range. The thing in the blood 4/10 that makes it take a bit longer for me was the web towers. Once those are done the rest of the site was a piece of cake. The 10mn fessor handles any 4/10 and bellow very well. But you have to know how to keep up angular velocity to reduce incoming dmage. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2015.12.03 02:17:15 -
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Yeah, biggest thing in Mul Zatah is watching your range with the cruisers. Towers can hurt too if you're not careful (several web and plenty missile towers). Sentries from a cruiser like a Stratios can kill the Cathedral before the cruisers can get in range to nuet, though. If you can, ignore the cruisers and towers, pop the Cathedral, BM the can that it drops, warp out and warp back after the site despawns, profit. If you have the time, you could theoretically lure the cruisers away from the site middle and swing around them to do the deed. They are not particularly that fast last I remember, and the neuting range is not the 40Km they sometimes enjoy in missions (think it's actually 10Km for that site, but I would double check if I were you).
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