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Dagnar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:15:30 -
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Does anyone else think it's a bit strange that the Svipul has an optimal range bonus instead of a falloff bonus? Minmatar guns are falloff focused, with autocannons being almost fully dependant on falloff and with only artillery gaining use from the optimal range bonus. My optimal range in a max skills autocannon Svipul is barely 1km. I can't make use of my ship's inherent bonus with it's own racial weapon type. |
Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:24:33 -
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its for arty. |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
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Posted - 2015.11.10 15:46:26 -
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Good :)
OP anyway :p
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Hochopepa
POS Consultants Group LLC
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Posted - 2015.11.10 18:13:24 -
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Autocannons live and die by falloff. Whenever you see an optimal bonus on a minnie ship, it's meant for artillery, which is a racial weapon type so.... |
Dankkarr
Benito de Soto
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Posted - 2015.11.10 21:53:54 -
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Yes, the Svipul is under powered with its useless bonuses. Please buff. |
Dagnar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:11:41 -
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Hochopepa wrote:Autocannons live and die by falloff. Whenever you see an optimal bonus on a minnie ship, it's meant for artillery, which is a racial weapon type so....
Here are the bonus type for each minmatar ship
Sleipnir - falloff bonus Hurrican - falloff + optimal Tornado - falloff Vargur - falloff Machariel - falloff Munin - optimal range Vagabond - falloff Broadsword - falloff Cynabal - falloff Stabber - falloff Sabre - falloff
You get my point. Optimal bonus instead of falloff on a minmatar ship is stupid. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.11.10 22:15:02 -
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The ship is borderline OP even after it's recent nerf, giving it the fall off bonus would make it unquestionably OP.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.11.11 12:55:52 -
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Minnie boats mainly come with either falloff+RoF+Damage or tracking+optimal+damage. The Sabre already offers falloff (340dps with barrage at 2+20), the svipul offers artillery traits instead. |
Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary
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Posted - 2015.11.12 00:42:57 -
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OP Does have a point that optimal bonuses on Minmatar ships are crap. The optimal bonused ships (Jag, Muninn) are some of the worst in their class since it pigeon holes them into artillery if you want to make the best of their bonus and both these ships do not synergize well with artillery. Muninn lacks midslots to go shield + arty and doesn't have the powergrid to go armor + arty. The jag has massive powergrid issues and is generally a really bad AF.
This doesn't apply to the Svipul since the entire ship is so overpowered that it isn't negatively affected by this bonus. This is also because arty Svipuls are very good due to it's speed, tracking bonus in sharpshooter mode, fittings and slot layout. |
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