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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Phoebe Freeport Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.05 15:07:24 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:I have not mined for a couple of years so I might be wrong so feel free to rip me a new one. EFT says a perfect miner with perfect boosts ect can mine 3902M3 per minute (is that correct?) EFT HulkBistot is 423isk per 1m3. http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore3902 * 60 = 234120m3/hour 234120 * 423 = 99mil/hour Seems very high, I was sure that I made sub 20m/h in HS with perfect boosts so 5X more seems like a lot given Orca boosts are not that much worse and HS orders are 60% the value of NS. See my post above. I do all the calcs you need in my app.
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Mad Vemane
House Atild Heavy Industries United Systems of Aridia
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Posted - 2016.01.05 17:20:23 -
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Zifrian wrote:Andrew Indy wrote:I have not mined for a couple of years so I might be wrong so feel free to rip me a new one. EFT says a perfect miner with perfect boosts ect can mine 3902M3 per minute (is that correct?) EFT HulkBistot is 423isk per 1m3. http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore3902 * 60 = 234120m3/hour 234120 * 423 = 99mil/hour Seems very high, I was sure that I made sub 20m/h in HS with perfect boosts so 5X more seems like a lot given Orca boosts are not that much worse and HS orders are 60% the value of NS. See my post above. I do all the calcs you need in my app.
Edit: My bad missed a box in the app :3 |
Andrew Indy
POS Party
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:13:30 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:
An excellent, but reasonable, hulk is probably more like 3000m3/minute... and if you're selling the compressed ore instead of somehow getting 100% refine, you're looking at under 300isk/m3. Puts you around 50 million per hour, plus drones if you're using them. But still, you aren't doing that with one account unless you have a buddy hauling for free and a buddy boosting too.
Sorry forgot about the refine changes (did say i had been out of the mining game for a while) , still 50mil per hour is pretty good for semi afk work especially considering that it scales very well with more characters.
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Eitak Utrigas
Hydraxis Industries Stella Nova
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:22:17 -
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Keep in mind that since the changes that allowed compression at a POS, the market for uncompressed ores at Jita prices is now inflating since no one in their right mind would fill a jump freighter up with uncompressed ores to sell it in high so the supply is now lower.
Values for compressed Ores or refined minerals seem more realistic.
That said, 50m - 70m with a well trained Hulk, with a hauler under a good Rorq pilot is certainly an acceptable amount providing you have the backing of a good corp/alliance who offer you a buyback that doesnt bend you over.
For the more average newer pilot on a Procurer, I'd expect it to be nearer to 20m mark. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.07 16:36:38 -
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Captain Krunch Krunch wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:Captain Krunch Krunch wrote: 70 mill / 3 = 23.3 mill per hr, per toon, which also breaks down to 11.66666 mill per half hour.
The 70 million value was given as a per-character amount. The OP later multiplied it by 3 to reach the 3-character amount of 210. Without opining on the validity of that amount, you took a value that was already normalized to a single character and then divided it by 3 "because [you] only run one account" and (more accurately) because you are very bad at math. Care to try that again? First off, you must be bad at ENGLISH because i believe you were trying to spell the word OPINIONING.
Oh, gosh, how did I miss this little gem?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opine?s=t
So you're borderline illiterate AND bad at math.
I'm not sure which is better: That you were oblivious to the existence of opine, or that you think "opinioning" is a word.
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Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
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Posted - 2016.01.07 17:11:05 -
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Why every miner who never touched Mercoxit thinks that it's a good idea to mine Mercoxit? First of all, it's retardely limited. Second, you can't even use conventional tools to mine one. Third, Mercoxit mining (Oh, sorry, DEEP CORE mining) modules got terrible yield to begin with. Mercoxit's volume doesn't help either. |
Ria Nieyli
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Posted - 2016.01.07 20:49:09 -
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Leila Meurtrier wrote:Why every miner who never touched Mercoxit thinks that it's a good idea to mine Mercoxit? First of all, it's retardely limited. Second, you can't even use conventional tools to mine one. Third, Mercoxit mining (Oh, sorry, DEEP CORE mining) modules got terrible yield to begin with. Mercoxit's volume doesn't help either.
It's still the most valuable ore by a good 33%, after you adjust for the lower yield. |
Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
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Posted - 2016.01.08 07:11:49 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:
It's still the most valuable ore by a good 33%, after you adjust for the lower yield.
Well, things got changed. Guess it's time to do some spreadsheet magic after all. |
Obadja
RENTER REBELS UNCHAINED League of Unaligned Master Pilots
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Posted - 2016.01.08 09:21:35 -
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Eitak Utrigas wrote:
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That said, 50m - 70m with a well trained Hulk, with a hauler under a good Rorq pilot is certainly an acceptable amount providing you have the backing of a good corp/alliance who offer you a buyback that doesnt bend you over.
For the more average newer pilot on a Procurer, I'd expect it to be nearer to 20m mark.
That comes closer to my experience than those theoretical calculations.
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Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining The Bastion
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Posted - 2016.01.10 02:39:59 -
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The other day I tried out mining again (first time in a long time, got bored lol) and I'd say I got about 25 mil in 20 minutes. This was jetcan mining in a skiff with max rorqual boosts mining spod. Adding in hauling and it probably would have made 50-60 mil in an hour. If you have multiple characters mining in hulks, one character hauling, then I could see it getting up to ~80 mil per hour.
So 100 mil seems a little high on the spectrum, but maybe the value of ore has shifted enough since he originally made this post? Could have also been assuming max refine, didn't bother with that myself. |
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