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Lyn Bunnions
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:14:00 -
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:14:00 -
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Yep GJ BoB, very impressive campaign. Very nice writeup too.
One question remains though.... when is Gonadsak's "last stand" video out?
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CallMe 8675309
Gallente Truth In Advertising
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: CallMe 8675309 on 05/01/2007 18:16:23
Originally by: Ikvar However many people post derogatory comments about BOB in this or any other threads, they can't deny that no one consistently (or every arguably) pull out the results or show the skill, teamwork and dedication that BOB do.
Sure we can. Red Alliance. GoonSwarm. AAA. BoB pick on isolated alliances like everybody else. The only thing that makes them "special" is the incredible amounts of propaganda spewed out on the forums by their leaders, plus the number of slav- I mean pets who buy into the myth that BoB can protect them from the rest of the universe when they're attacked. I think they're in for a pretty rude awakening when BoB are supposed to be protecting FORTY different stations throughout their regions when their leadership has alienated the rest of the game with its bluster.
Well, outside their mercenary pets in MC and their conquered vassals in FIX.
Edit: Oh and can't forget the slavering desperates in LV who will doubtlessly ally with BoB to save their own skin from the Russians soon enough, too.
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xXBeatnikXx
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:19:00 -
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Respect to the few ASCN that stood out to me in Combat (mostly just at the secound half when there were less then 50 of them):
Zungen Daskingtiger
And to all the rest out there that fought, won and lost. I didn't always keep my ship, but I sure took a lot of yours.
GF and may those that deserve it find your way into our fold. There were some great fights, and some great fighters from time to time in the last 4 monthes.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:22:00 -
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Very impressive work. It went much more quickly and easily than I had thought possible.
It will take a staggering amount of willpower and military force to beat Band of Brothers in a war. Willpower is the key though. One wonders if such exists among those who array themselves against you guys. I fervently hope so, but I do have my doubts.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: CallMe 8675309 ...protecting FORTY different stations
If we didn't have a plan already in place to do exactly that then we wouldn't have even started.
Come take a few off of us, see how long you keep them - and see how much you lose taking them.
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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CallMe 8675309
Gallente Truth In Advertising
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: CallMe 8675309 ...protecting FORTY different stations
If we didn't have a plan already in place to do exactly that then we wouldn't have even started.
Come take a few off of us, see how long you keep them - and see how much you lose taking them.
Hang on, let me get your resident forum hacker to post your Master Plan
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: TrippyX Edited by: TrippyX on 05/01/2007 18:09:09
Originally by: Harisdrop I never realized how awesome you must feel. I guess your the first alliance to claim you destroyed an Alliance!
BoB didn't destroy ASCN.. ASCN destroyed itself.
I will point you to our corporations bio, go have a look.
Many alliances have said such to us, whether it be
PA NBSI CA FA Xetic the list goes on
Always Internal problems ---------------
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Snow Monkey
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:26:00 -
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Love them or Loathe them, you can't help but admire the fight they brought.
I look forward to seeing where the pendulum swings next.
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Ultrabug
Morne Attitude
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:33:00 -
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Good job brothers.
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Ritchler
Gallente EliteCCP.Com
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: CallMe 8675309 Edited by: CallMe 8675309 on 05/01/2007 18:16:23
Originally by: Ikvar However many people post derogatory comments about BOB in this or any other threads, they can't deny that no one consistently (or every arguably) pull out the results or show the skill, teamwork and dedication that BOB do.
Sure we can. Red Alliance. GoonSwarm. AAA. BoB pick on isolated alliances like everybody else. The only thing that makes them "special" is the incredible amounts of propaganda spewed out on the forums by their leaders, plus the number of slav- I mean pets who buy into the myth that BoB can protect them from the rest of the universe when they're attacked. I think they're in for a pretty rude awakening when BoB are supposed to be protecting FORTY different stations throughout their regions when their leadership has alienated the rest of the game with its bluster.
Well, outside their mercenary pets in MC and their conquered vassals in FIX.
Edit: Oh and can't forget the slavering desperates in LV who will doubtlessly ally with BoB to save their own skin from the Russians soon enough, too.
Hmm where to start
Fix are not *conquered* Mc Are Not BOb Slaves
ASCN was CERTAINLY NOT osolated, AAA hit Axiom, who again was not isolated and had plenty of allies
You have no idea wtf you are on about or what the hell is going on. I suggest you shut up before i embarass you further
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:38:00 -
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I'm hoping that you are just a random alt who's stolen a BoB sig. If this is not the case, and you are a BoB pilot, shame on you. You'd better hope I don't find out who you are. Post with your main sir, or not at all. ....
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:43:00 -
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Congrats to Band of Brothers. Dianabolic is going to need a secretary soon I imagine... -
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:43:00 -
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This war, while interesting to read about, has really depressed me about the state of EVE. It's hard to measure exactly how dissappointed I am that this didn't turn into a stalemate. And the reason is, I wanted BoB to be taken down a notch off of their high horse. But now this gives them more justification than ever to be on one. After reading about the goonswarm "war", I considered them to be nothing more than your average schoolyard bully and I eagerly awaited the day when they bit off more than they could chew.
But that didn't happen.
I fully admit I have no rational reason for disliking BoB other than I like rooting for the underdogs, and I dislike elitism. I like seeing big names and big teams in the height of their greatness being destroyed, as it gives me some small satisfaction. There's just something about forcing those on a high horse to have some humility that makes me smile. And I still want to feel as though something can take them down...It's just looking less and less plausible.
So all that being said, I do have a new respect for BoB. They took down the monster of the South single-handedly and no one can take that away from them. I never liked ASCN either, so I guess it was a win-win war. You'll have to excuse me though if I still root for a large coalition of forces to eventually end the Band of Brothers legacy. You can't be on top forever....right?
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Puke Skystalker
Minmatar The Mystical Order
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ritchler
Fix are not *conquered*
No they're just good dogs who roll over when you throw them a bone or some left over scraps. Pet them know and again and their harmless.
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:44:00 -
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A good read. It will be interesting to see which way the steamroller turns next.
On a side note, those complaining of BOB propaganda need to wake up. It's all part of warfare. Addressing your enemy's rank and file and sewing seeds of doubt in thier leaders' abilities and motives is a classic example.
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:45:00 -
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Congratualtions BoB. In all my time, I don't think I've seen such a total demolishing of a super power, even back in the days of CA.
I have a question though, BoB did lose a Carrier to The Establishment when we were working for ASCN. I'm not sure if you count Merc kills against you at all or you were just counting direct ASCN kills (as you state not a single Capital was lost). Just curious.
The Establishment is at your service...
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Dark Horseman
The Older Gamers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:46:00 -
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Definetly had a long hard fight for both sides. Many ASCN pilots made a good showing of themselves in combat and dedication. I have nothing but good things to say about my comrades as well as our opponents. Fly your colors with pride ASCN.
Dark Horseman> My CEO said he'd give me the "Covert Ops Service Medal". Only problem is no one can see it. |
Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 Congratualtions BoB. In all my time, I don't think I've seen such a total demolishing of a super power, even back in the days of CA.
I have a question though, BoB did lose a Carrier to The Establishment when we were working for ASCN. I'm not sure if you count Merc kills against you at all or you were just counting direct ASCN kills (as you state not a single Capital was lost). Just curious.
I think we lost one to CELES in that time period, aswell.
I'm not too sure if we have included merc losses (in the great scheme of it they are negligible) but for sake of accuracy I shall find out :)
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:54:00 -
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Credit is due obviously. Displacing ASCN from Feyth wasn't something that alot thought would be as easy as you made it seem. Well played.
But what I don't get still is why you cheapen your efforts and accomplishments with the Burn Eden-eqse forum spying and the other forms of out-of-game inflitration??? It just makes you look "low rent."
And with the rot from within that was the case with ASCN, the out of game stuff was even more unnecessary. Hell, just find any number of disgruntled current or former ASCN at the outset of this operation and utilize them.
The point here is two-fold, one to congratulate real accomplishment and two, to ask why turnaround and cheap it with stuff that's unnecessary? Wouldn't you come off as even more of a "eve juggernaut" if you eschewed the out of game crap and not inflitrate official alliance forums, TS, etc?
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Dominie Dirtch
Minmatar Revival.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: TrippyX Edited by: TrippyX on 05/01/2007 18:09:09
Originally by: Harisdrop I never realized how awesome you must feel. I guess your the first alliance to claim you destroyed an Alliance!
BoB didn't destroy ASCN.. ASCN destroyed itself.
I will point you to our corporations bio, go have a look.
Many alliances have said such to us, whether it be
PA NBSI CA FA Xetic the list goes on
Always Internal problems
How dare you put CA in that list you insignificant bug.
CA was not destroyed by anyone, least of all BoB, CA was destroyed by ego's and nothing more. _________ My voice shall tear you asunder and show your vile ways. |
Nuagni
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: xXBeatnikXx Respect to the few ASCN that stood out to me in Combat (mostly just at the secound half when there were less then 50 of them):
Zungen Daskingtiger
And to all the rest out there that fought, won and lost. I didn't always keep my ship, but I sure took a lot of yours.
GF and may those that deserve it find your way into our fold. There were some great fights, and some great fighters from time to time in the last 4 monthes.
That Zungen is something else.
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TRIGGER
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:59:00 -
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Good one bish May your pendulum swing again .
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Arenis Xemdal
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Helganstandt This war, while interesting to read about, has really depressed me about the state of EVE. It's hard to measure exactly how dissappointed I am that this didn't turn into a stalemate. And the reason is, I wanted BoB to be taken down a notch off of their high horse. But now this gives them more justification than ever to be on one. After reading about the goonswarm "war", I considered them to be nothing more than your average schoolyard bully and I eagerly awaited the day when they bit off more than they could chew.
But that didn't happen.
I fully admit I have no rational reason for disliking BoB other than I like rooting for the underdogs, and I dislike elitism. I like seeing big names and big teams in the height of their greatness being destroyed, as it gives me some small satisfaction. There's just something about forcing those on a high horse to have some humility that makes me smile. And I still want to feel as though something can take them down...It's just looking less and less plausible.
So all that being said, I do have a new respect for BoB. They took down the monster of the South single-handedly and no one can take that away from them. I never liked ASCN either, so I guess it was a win-win war. You'll have to excuse me though if I still root for a large coalition of forces to eventually end the Band of Brothers legacy. You can't be on top forever....right?
No excusing necessary, you're free to cheer for anyone you like.
But in this war, BoB was initially outnumbered 4:1 (compare 100-150 in alliance chat to 400-500). Had ASCN pulled together in a proper manner, we would have struggled to find victory for many, many months. Its almost ridiculous to give them underdog status simply of their ignorance, when they had the pilots and resources to do anything. This is why few forces felt the need to jump and assist ASCN in their time of need. They were content in watching us dismantle a bigger force for the same reasons you cite here.
If a coalition of alliances comes to collectively assault our space, it will give us underdog status once more. When that happens, the coalition had better do the job right. Winning fights and taking our space might bring the humility you seek. But if we end up retaking it all and kicking the crap out of every invader, one by one, the dominance BoB has in EVE will never be in doubt ever again. Maybe I've said too much..
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Electric Cucumber on 05/01/2007 19:02:09
Originally by: TrippyX Edited by: TrippyX on 05/01/2007 18:09:09
Originally by: Harisdrop I never realized how awesome you must feel. I guess your the first alliance to claim you destroyed an Alliance!
BoB didn't destroy ASCN.. ASCN destroyed itself.
They always say that , what your implying is that if BOB hadn't attacked, ASCN would still have lost their space and members to internal problems?
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:03:00 -
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Good work. Now get working on D2.
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SlasherD
Gallente Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Rennard
This is very important what they will do. ASCN pvpers who lost, they didnt quit game, their skills still exists, their experience grow a lot more.
What will they do?
Join BOB?
Lol, Still waiting for my evemail to flash
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:04:00 -
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I think most of us who knew both parties involved knew this outcome was innevitable once the war was clearly a war with conquest in mind, though I dont' think anyone predicted it would be executed almost flawlessly.
Still it took some brass balls to risk such a war, which is something I don't think most people realize. ASCN was the biggest richest alliance in EvE when this started, not BoB, and on paper it should have been BoB who was worried.
Thanks for keeping EvE interesting
(And yes I know this brands me as a BoB fanboi but come on, credit is due where it is due.)
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:06:00 -
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Is BoB off to play Pirates of The Burning Sea Now?
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:07:00 -
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Steamrollered.
Praise where it is due, well done, you guys did a good job.
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