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Xeriuz
Caldari The Puppet Masters.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 23:06:00 -
[151]
Your press releases are always great and this one is the best one i have read of them all, nice job.
nothing but respect.
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You Never Know What You Have Until You Lose It |
Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.01.05 23:14:00 -
[152]
Originally by: NTRabbit Fascinating.
Indeed.
In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey. |
Bobbeh
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 23:27:00 -
[153]
Originally by: xXBeatnikXx Respect to the few ASCN that stood out to me in Combat (mostly just at the secound half when there were less then 50 of them):
Zungen Daskingtiger
And to all the rest out there that fought, won and lost. I didn't always keep my ship, but I sure took a lot of yours.
GF and may those that deserve it find your way into our fold. There were some great fights, and some great fighters from time to time in the last 4 monthes.
I agree with this statement.
I'd like to say GF ASCN for what its worth. You were until right at the very end a worthy adversary. GF.
Current standing BOB Lite 6 - ASCN 0 |
Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2007.01.05 23:31:00 -
[154]
no tendrils :(
Originally by: Sergio Ling
Originally by: Butter Dog but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know.
i can't imagine that's true
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:06:00 -
[155]
After all is said and done, you guys were awesome. All whining, complaining and excuise making aside, we were outfought.
Well done!
I learned a ton in this war and experienced what few Eve pilots have... I've flown with a Titan. Shrike tried to kill me with his several times (EM tanking FTW!), and I saw some amazing battles.
Till next time....
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Dr Smythe
Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:25:00 -
[156]
Well nice to be on page 100 zillion again :P but here is my two cents
BoB won outright because they are good and had their **** together.
The war was good and fought fair by BoB. There was absolutely no under handed tactics that I saw or heard of that were not played with in the game mechanics.
A war is a war is a war.
ASCN lost not because it's pilots didn't want to fight but because it's leader(s) couldn't motivate the masses to fight and could not give any clear direction.
I took part in many fleet ops but only one noticably did ASCN have the upper hand. There were plenty of skirmishes were ASCN had the upper hand and vice versa. But skirmishes do not win wars.
BoB knows that ASCN had MANY good pilots and a few GOOD/GREAT FC'S but we no clear guidance from the top WHAT SO EVER it was a fore gone conclusion I'm afraid.
We were kept told you have to step up to the plate you have to step up to the plate. And many of us did. We took our own initiative by moving to delve. FC's took their own initiative by leading gangs.
In the Sha Kharn gave up in waiting for command and started working on our own. We knew from an early time the outcome. It was that plain to see. We teamed up with corps like Lynx who wanted to fight and we fought where and how we could with little or no direction.
The only people who failed to step up to the plate in my honest opinion was the ASCN HC from the beginning of the war.
I was so disallusioned by this whole war that I went to Empire once SHA K pulled out and started doing missions. I haven't done missions in years and I remembered quickly why. I hated those 3 weeks so much I almost CTRL + Q EVE completely.
But realistically all that can be said is this. Kudos to BoB you know your stuff and you do it well.
And I am so proud for being in ASCN and fighting with the people of ASCN. But it's HC and leader sucked donkey dong
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JA RULER
Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:59:00 -
[157]
Congratz bob
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:02:00 -
[158]
Originally by: JA RULER Congratz bob
Your sig is incredible beyond words lol -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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Dr Smythe
Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:06:00 -
[159]
JA that is an awsome awsome siggy :) hahahahahahaha
Help Dr Smythe get a Corvus |
DrakeStone
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:08:00 -
[160]
Edited by: DrakeStone on 06/01/2007 01:06:24
Congratulations, BOB.
Well played, indeed.
/salute
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:12:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh I'm hoping that you are just a random alt who's stolen a BoB sig. If this is not the case, and you are a BoB pilot, shame on you. You'd better hope I don't find out who you are. Post with your main sir, or not at all.
I've seen a number of non BoB using that signature - makes me happy, obvioulsy one of my better creations
Originally by: Blacklight I think Madeye and CRYVOK have delusions of adequacy!
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Xianthar
Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:21:00 -
[162]
well played bob.
-xian
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iiixiii
Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:22:00 -
[163]
GJ!
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:26:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: JA RULER Congratz bob
Your sig is incredible beyond words lol
I concur with this statement.
It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it?
EVIL SYNNs > Bob are the best, we have to pay them to use the plexs...
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:28:00 -
[165]
Pld BoB, in my noobness atm i can only hope to join your ranks someday =) ___________________________________________________________________
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EluThingol
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:31:00 -
[166]
Edited by: EluThingol on 06/01/2007 01:31:11 damn alt delete
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ElweSingollo
Starlancers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:31:00 -
[167]
Edited by: ElweSingollo on 06/01/2007 01:34:04
Originally by: Resipsa Loquitor John McCreedy and EDF never paid their complex runners for the 100s of billions gathered in the name of EDF and ASCN. Who's the slave master now, McGreedy? Where's the money? Pay ARC!
God out of topic really but wth is with the sig Res did they change things after I left EDF as far as I was aware all profits from the high end complexes in D-F went to a central fund your saying you were meant to get paid????
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:33:00 -
[168]
Anyone woken up yet? BoB gonna utterly destroy you? No, you sure? Hows that novel you've been writing? Still writing it? Still laying those words down? Yeah? Well you keep that up....
gj bob.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:35:00 -
[169]
Originally by: welsh wizard Anyone woken up yet? BoB gonna utterly destroy you? No, you sure? Hows that novel you've been writing? Still writing it? Still laying those words down? Yeah? Well you keep that up....
gj bob.
Sig *****!!!
Gl in your new corp mr welsh ;)
Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:36:00 -
[170]
Thank you Miss Bolic :D
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Arines Shrdlu
Minmatar Celestial Fleet
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:42:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
Originally by: Shrike
Originally by: Har Ganeth How long did it take 39 dreads to take down the 5-4 POS in AZN? :o
16 hardners, Minmatar... in one word.. WAY TO EFFING LONG!
I endorse this statement.
Still got a couple of those POS left to kill
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:58:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Dr Smythe Well nice to be on page 100 zillion again :P but here is my two cents
BoB won outright because they are good and had their **** together.
The war was good and fought fair by BoB. There was absolutely no under handed tactics that I saw or heard of that were not played with in the game mechanics.
A war is a war is a war.
ASCN lost not because it's pilots didn't want to fight but because it's leader(s) couldn't motivate the masses to fight and could not give any clear direction.
I took part in many fleet ops but only one noticably did ASCN have the upper hand. There were plenty of skirmishes were ASCN had the upper hand and vice versa. But skirmishes do not win wars.
BoB knows that ASCN had MANY good pilots and a few GOOD/GREAT FC'S but we no clear guidance from the top WHAT SO EVER it was a fore gone conclusion I'm afraid.
We were kept told you have to step up to the plate you have to step up to the plate. And many of us did. We took our own initiative by moving to delve. FC's took their own initiative by leading gangs.
In the Sha Kharn gave up in waiting for command and started working on our own. We knew from an early time the outcome. It was that plain to see. We teamed up with corps like Lynx who wanted to fight and we fought where and how we could with little or no direction.
The only people who failed to step up to the plate in my honest opinion was the ASCN HC from the beginning of the war.
I was so disallusioned by this whole war that I went to Empire once SHA K pulled out and started doing missions. I haven't done missions in years and I remembered quickly why. I hated those 3 weeks so much I almost CTRL + Q EVE completely.
But realistically all that can be said is this. Kudos to BoB you know your stuff and you do it well.
And I am so proud for being in ASCN and fighting with the people of ASCN. But it's HC and leader sucked donkey dong
Well said. We saw the fire in you guys, just no direction like you said. That's why it's important for the leaders to be on the front line leading the fights, earning respect, knowing what an ordinery joe is feeling.
Like I said many times before. Leaders must lead by excemple on the battlefield for ppl will fallow to their deaths without thinking about it. In EVE, Generals rule and Presidents perish.
The truth will set you free
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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:59:00 -
[173]
It was most certainly an interesting social experience for me. Kinda shame that I had to stop playing due to RL obligations when we were still dic...I mean POSing around in Paragon Soul.
Anyhow, thanks for teaching a lesson about leadership. For me, the most fascinating part of the whole war was observing other people making good or bad decisions while they were being either filled with purpose or being engulfed by a dark cloud of indecisiveness.
Too bad I could only observe one side of the story.
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Dr Smythe
Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:16:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Like I said many times before. Leaders must lead by excemple on the battlefield for ppl will fallow to their deaths without thinking about it. In EVE, Generals rule and Presidents perish.
Signed/
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:26:00 -
[175]
It was a nice offensive and very well executed, unfortunately ASCN didnÆt hold as much as I was expecting, the quality gap between BOB and ASCN leaderships was to big, BUT in my personal opinion you just hit the wrong target, you choose to destroy what could have been your biggest ally, an ally that according with todayÆs events would have been very handy, like it was in the past.
You destroyed ASCN and what have your earn with that, besides fun - and please donÆt say that you could only have fun with ASCN -?
You have destroyed ASCN and with them AXE pulled back, incapable of dealing alone with AAA. You have now AAA as a neighbour. DonÆt know why but I have the feeling that it wasnÆt a good swap ... Even if you put new friendly alliances in the new regions, they will always be weak and will always trust at their landlordÆs strength and not at their own strength, we can take as example the Fountain situation.
Your biggest victory is also your biggest defeat. The "aura" is lost forever, people now know that BOB are not trusty and are capable of twist sides with a single "NAP RESET". Is not easy to keep friends when you use people like you use. You have reached your zenith and in the horizon the first clouds of a big storm are already showing...I will take the words of the Topic Starter and will say:
The higher you are the bigger the fall
Time will tell if you were right and I was wrong. Good luck BOB, I think you will need it.
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Sun Ra
Godspeed You Black Emperor
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:27:00 -
[176]
so whos moving in?
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |
Dracolich
North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:36:00 -
[177]
Now it was a very short war, but had it been as expected - a profitable one?
Was this war for
a) Profits. b) Keeping the men happy. c) Eliminating future threats. d) Complying fullscale warfare as a test, when(if) a "real" threat arrives. e) Eliminating the buffer-empire, before reaching "the promised land" of DICE. f) To tread the mill;gain land, assimilate, gain wealth from landlording...(before the next expedition). g) Perfect target. h) Some of the above. i) All of the above. j) None of the above.
I am merely speculating, as I know nothing of the world of Eve, as it is, and thus I don't represent my corp nor alliance in doing so.
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Rikeka
Amarr Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:41:00 -
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Honestly, I`m bit tired of the ASCN/BoB threads so I skipped a few pages, but read Molle`s OP, and I liked it, somehow. To ASCN, well done. That alliance will forever remain on EvE history. To it`s members, the same. Now, you are forced to go separate ways, and try to repeat what you did on ASCN. Learn from the successes of ASCN, and from it`s mustakes.
To BOB, congrats on the victory. Personally, I admit I would have preferred you guys retreated (not entirely, as a powerfull force is always needed), but, I too admit, that this events will certainly make things interesting in the far south.
¿Spoils to the victors¿ and all that. I`m certainly curious on who will reside on former-ASCN space, so will keep an eye on this threads, even though I hate them.
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KIATheClash
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: KIATheClash on 06/01/2007 02:40:57
Originally by: Serret
Originally by: Ma'kai
What I'm saying is where do you draw the line? The stuff BoB posted from ASCN's private forums was just that, private. If BoB got Cyvok's real life email password, would you guys view his private email?
If we got CYVOK's email password, we might look at it.
However, since there is no such thing as a person named CYVOK in real life, I very much doubt that will ever happen.
Mods this is currently my main .
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Athus
Proferon
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:56:00 -
[180]
This entire thread has been interesting to me. Although I admit I skipped around the last 3 pages. First I'd like to say Congrats to BoB for a well executed war it would seem. ASCN I am sure worked as hard as they could to defend. I won't deny that I am no fan of BoB for my own reasons however... I see so many crying over spies and forum invasions etc...
What do you people think happens in a real war? Do you think that we don't spy on the enemy to try and gather intel on what they are doing? Do you think the enemy is not doing that in return? War is Dirty. It never will be anything but dirty. all the propaganda is part of it as well.. so what.. BoB is stuck up.. they kicked the crud out of something larger than them.. would you not gloat some too? Sure it is a bit long winded. Ignore it of you don't like it. Or get over it. But if you want to whine about spies and propaganda I suggest you go take a long hard look at things such as WWII and any historical information on how war is conducted or even current. And might I remind you that with the little stunt that was pulled a few years ago by Bin Ladden.. the spy network that was taken apart and tossed to the winds was put back into operation. Granted we have an idiot in office who has no idea how to use it right.. but still.. gimme a break about the spies...
GF to all of you.
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