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KingKenny
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Posted - 2007.01.07 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Spartac0 Edited by: Spartac0 on 07/01/2007 04:06:01 I don't post much on forums cause I suck at it but i have to say a few words and this is not intended to flame anyone so cut me some slack :P
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BOB wins eve
see you in space
I don't know much about Bob as I tend to spend most of my time as a carebear empire trader. I do however know they are powerful and rich, very rich. And by the sound of it they can shoot quite well to.
Being in the game as long as I have I worry that 1 single alliance can have so much influence on the game.
The quote about Bob winning Eve, whilst being a very bold statement could become a reality. After all if Bob control 0.0 space or a significant part of it then they control the economy.
Being so powerful could bring peace and stabilty to the Eve Universe. For if they Kill ASCN then who is next. Before we know it they could wipe out most of the major alliances before the Summer. All that will be left will be concord.
Sadly in Eve most of the economy is based on War. Ships, Ammo, Mods etc. There is not much ISK in Grain and Cattle in Eve.
Thus if Peace breaks out there will be a huge downturn in manufacturing output as the mission runners and low sec pirates will struggle to take up the slack.
What will we all do?
Our little corp will struggle for sure as will many others. Bob will control the prices of the Morphite/Mega/Zyd thats if anyone needs it.
If Bob wins Eve, as it may well do. Eve could become a very tedious game indeed.
Whilst Bob deserve a big pat on the back for their destruction of such a large Alliance can we trust the future of the game to them.
In the real world Peace is good and there normally follows a large increase in prosperity following a huge war as people make babies and buy colour TV's.
If Peace breaks out then I fear for Eve, it will be just like real life but without the sex and Colour TV's.
So Bob, for the good of the game, please lose the next war.
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Daelmon
Minmatar Ascent of Ages R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.07 05:33:00 -
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Great read. Truly impressive.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:20:00 -
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hmm awsome work BOB Machine...
Now that the war is over with Ascendant Frontier noone is safe from the BoB Pvp Machine...
2007 will see the beginning of the end of eve as we know it. I predict that by the end of the year Band of Brothers will have dominateded and conquered the entire Eve universe.
Will this happen? Can this happen? Absolutely. Why do i say this? Its because the current state of of conflicts that currently exist has caused Alliances big and small from mobilizing and preparing for true warfare... They are conducting skirmish warfare and waisting valuable assets and time fighting locals or just being greedy for indivisual purposes. Wealth and Outposts and Motherships dont mean crap if you dont have the resources, committment or pvp leadership to lead you to the promise lands of victory...
Band of Brothers have shown us that only the strong survives. They could not have Achieved greatness without an Economic powerhouse to drive their pvp Machine. Bob could not achieved total success without Great PVP Leaders leading thier troops with confidence and resolve.
Do you think there is anyone currently in eve that can stand up to the Band of Brothers? Who knows if there is any one entitly prepared to engage BOB head on...
2007 will be an interesting year indeed. EVE ONLINE one awsome game...
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Bozl1n
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bozl1n on 07/01/2007 06:33:50 Edited by: Bozl1n on 07/01/2007 06:32:51 By Boz coz he cant type 4 s|-|it
U know sommin mouldy i actuly had respect for the way it was written and the sentiment shown in ur post intill i got to this bit.....
Quote: ASCN thought building a foundation of structures was more important than building one of friendships
LMFAO
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Zafriel
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:49:00 -
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Certainly was an interesting read. Well done bob for taking them so fast, tbh I did not think they would have crumbled so easily, but I suppose even the wealthiest highly skilled pvpers will founder without good solid leadership.
What has now happened to the large industrial arm of ASCN? Are they going to stay put and work for bob?
I dont really understand why after beating ASCN that you would want to destroy it, surley it would have better served as a lapdog to mine for your capital ships and farm for your faction modules.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.01.08 02:33:00 -
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Realized I havent been in here yet(?).
It was never any doubts, I had hopes to see a challange presented to BoB in more ways than just overtaking a large territory and burning tens of thousands m3 of ice. I dont say ASCN didnt fight back, they did, but without any string of resounding battle victorys it was only a matter of time.
Well played, dedication and teamwork will always win!
Cheers, Lowa
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Jasmine Dupre
Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.08 08:30:00 -
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Congrats BoB
You deserve respect for pulling this off and you fought well. This War taught me that in EvE what counts for everything is comradeship and I hope that SHA K can one day be a part of, or have a large group of people who know how to work well with each other. To Blacklight o/
I hope that the new recruits you now have from SHA K do well and give you the friendship they gave me.
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DarkFenix
Caldari Pilots From Honour
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Posted - 2007.01.08 09:02:00 -
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I wonder who will be smashed by the pendulum of doom next .
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Earthan
Gallente The Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.01.08 09:44:00 -
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Big Kudos to BOB, even tough we are on opposite sides, i didnt think killing ascn so fast was possible.
scary.
The Amazing Fire Eaters webpage
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:18:00 -
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I tip my hat sir, BoB made little in the way of mistakes, and if anything, the lesson is learned that you must fit your army with the best available equipment, and have excellent people leading your fleet to ensure victory over your enemies.
Even though BoB won on the first point alone, they also took the "weather and terrain" into consideration while ASCN did not. This ment they could handle lag and node crashes a lot better, which is very important regardless the size of fleet battles. Only a foolish General blames the gods that he lost a battle due to rain, and BoB has no foolish Generals. BoB also knew how to keep their disciplined troops motivated, which was a major issue for ASCN to do the same.
All fights I have seen and been in have been clean and fair, and in the age of EvE where people do 40man logon traps to catch a cruiser, this is quite refreshing to fight an opponent that does not need to stoop to those tactics. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
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Confessor
Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:22:00 -
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Congratulations BoB for a great and epic war. My best days flying were with the Sha Karn corp, attacking in Delve, Paragon Soul, and finally in Feyth. Sha Karn were hardcore pvpers who did it thier way, and it worked. I will miss flying with you all in the future!
Many of us grunts became FC's in the final weeks of the war and saw through the lies that ASCN high command (pathetic name for themselves) used and were telling us. Most of the "power corps" in the alliance left us trial ascn corps as meatsheilds while they pulled all assets out of 0.0, BUT continued to tell us what to do, etc. I have screen shots of 2 of ASCN's strongest corps running the plexes for days on end while paragon soul fell, then as Feyth was being sieged, you guessed it, They were doing plexes again. I have absolute contempt for them and those corp leaders will be kos in my books from now until the end. Shame on you for what you did to the rest of us while we fought for your wallet, and lost nearly everything we had to support your capital fleet pullout under the ruse that you were fighting bob in fountain.
BoB you tought many of us how to fight, and we'll take our experience and forge it to fight once again. Confessor
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 08/01/2007 12:04:05
Originally by: USN CVN72
2007 will see the beginning of the end of eve as we know it. I predict that by the end of the year Band of Brothers will have dominateded and conquered the entire Eve universe.
Will this happen? Can this happen? Absolutely.
I doubt it, because their enemies have x-times their numbers and a lot of them are strong experienced pvp alliances.
But one thing is for sure, if BoB manages somehow to 'win' EVE anyway by beating the rest off, then they deserve it. ... Because if you leave forum warfare and the TS-story aside and just look at BoB's performance, how they accomplish their goals like a clockwork in a timely manner and that most often by their own power, then the only conclusion can be that their alliance works damn well and deserves every success they got so far.
Ok, enough brown nosing, checking skills now.
edit: Well, if BoB ever meets RA+X, it well get interesting. RA follows quite a different style, they are no steam rollers, but you can't steam roll RA either. RA are maybe the best long-term strategists in-game, have lived under war conditions forever and they just refuse to die. They are back with a new plan soon and then it's a good one that seems to work. I respect RA a lot for that somehow and sometimes also 'hate' them for it. They are a pain in the arse.
CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix. |
Lucre
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Confessor and lost nearly everything we had to support your capital fleet pullout under the ruse that you were fighting bob in fountain.
I can't speak for other corps, but STK dreads were fighting in Fountain - and indeed we lost a few there. Certainly no "ruse" for us. And there was no pullout of assets from 0.0 on our part until well after AZN had been sieged and abandoned to its fate.
Whether other ASCN corps could reasonably be accused of putting the integrity of their dread force ahead of their commitment to the war is another matter. As indeed is whether this ultimately made any difference except to the scale of BoB's victory - given the "spied" but plausible suggestion that the destruction of ASCN's capital fleet was one of their objectives.
Actually, I think the destruction of 7 out of 10 ASCN dreadnoughts in an early engagement in Paragon may well have been, along with CYVOK's departure, the critical point of the war. The lost ships were replaced, but the lost confidence in their employment wasn't.
- It's great not being ASCN any more, aint it? |
Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:56:00 -
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To BOB : Kudos my friends!!!
To ASCN: To the pilots that fought to the bitter end hold your head high.
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rift Scorn on 08/01/2007 18:27:08
Originally by: Har Ganeth Edited by: Har Ganeth on 08/01/2007 18:20:10
Originally by: Confessor Shame on you for what you did to the rest of us while we fought for your wallet, and lost nearly everything we had to support your capital fleet pullout under the ruse that you were fighting bob in fountain.
Not sure exactly who you're pointing fingers at here - perhaps you should be more specific with your accusations - as well as making sure they're founded in truth with evidence to back them up rather than believing various BoB posts.
That is the truth and everything DB wrote hit the nail on the head. That's the nearest you're going to get to 'proof' par se. We won't say who it was, because we said we wouldn't. I guess that will have to go straight to the tin-foil hattists out there as to who, but the why has already been explained.
We're always straight forward, no reason we should not be with this. Believe it or not, up to you.
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03 |
Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Red Six on 08/01/2007 18:32:10 Rift - You are getting the two confused. Confessor is talking about ASCN members who did nothing but the 10/10 plexes while PS and Feyth burned, like Nero and Rome. Har Ganeth is telling Confessor to make specifics accusations with proof and not just believe what we say. 0oyz has nothing to do with these just timing in the thread makes them look related.
Oh and log on during US timezone hours again so I can harass you over TS been entirely to long friend.
Originally by: Eridu Fallen
Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it *is* the ugly stick.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:10:00 -
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Both of you two missed the point I think. Confessor's statement was directed at STK's "Mission Impossible" over in fountian.
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan Both of you two missed the point I think. Confessor's statement was directed at STK's "Mission Impossible" over in fountian.
well yeah I think they did but they brought into light why you guys failed.
To many doing to many differnt things all at once instead of working together as a team on one thing....
But thats here nor there now.. A new day is on the horizon time to see what it brings. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2007.01.08 23:19:00 -
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>>>Confessor is talking about ASCN members who did nothing but the 10/10 plexes while PS and Feyth burned>>>>
Well, all those that I know running the 10/10 complex in D-F (dunno about the other plexes, as I was assigned to this one) did not keep the high-value loot for themselves but it was sold for corp and alliance to finance the war. Which was several hundred billion ISK from plexes in the last months. So yes, ASCN members were running those plexes and (even during the war) defending it against others (primarily RUA and allies, but also BoB wolfpacks). And no, they did not do it for their own profit.
You will find many of those people on the killboards too (losses and kills), so they did their part in fighting at the frontline in between plex respawns too.
Logistics and financing is an important part of any large scale conflict, as important as any fleet engagement.
Have fun
Ian
Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:10:00 -
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With regards STK...
They told ASCN they had spent weeks setting themselves in place for their attack on Fountain.
Then they got killzored in y-2 the very same week they said that.
Then they said they would be pulling back to assist with AZN.
Then the very same week we killzored azn.
Then they said... actually I have no clue what they said but I'm sure it was something along the lines of "eeek, ruuuuuun".
Which they did!
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:14:00 -
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so um whos running the same plexes these days have they been turned over to bob alts- bob friendly alts or have other hostile parties moved in to take up the slack and hte ISK
How much is exploration influencing usage of these plexes as well ?
All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:16:00 -
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Earlier this evening, a scotsman was seen acting suspiciously outside a local offlicence. ....
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: ollobrains so um whos running the same plexes these days have they been turned over to bob alts- bob friendly alts or have other hostile parties moved in to take up the slack and hte ISK
How much is exploration influencing usage of these plexes as well ?
go away Mrs Overlord, you ain't getting nothing from us.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "WE have never worked with m0o, we will never work with m0o"!
/me shakes fist
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Sun Ra
Godspeed You Black Emperor
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Posted - 2007.01.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: ollobrains so um whos running the same plexes these days have they been turned over to bob alts- bob friendly alts or have other hostile parties moved in to take up the slack and hte ISK
How much is exploration influencing usage of these plexes as well ?
go away Mrs Overlord, you ain't getting nothing from us.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "WE have never worked with m0o, we will never work with m0o"!
/me shakes fist
dbp
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |
Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: ollobrains so um whos running the same plexes these days have they been turned over to bob alts- bob friendly alts or have other hostile parties moved in to take up the slack and hte ISK
How much is exploration influencing usage of these plexes as well ?
go away Mrs Overlord, you ain't getting nothing from us.
I've said it before and I'll say it again "WE have never worked with m0o, we will never work with m0o"!
/me shakes fist
dbp
We have never worked with "The new MOO", we will never with "The new MOO"!
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: Sama |
Kayosoni
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.09 05:26:00 -
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gratz bob. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Gary Barlow
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Posted - 2007.01.09 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni gratz bob.
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I am a mighty handsome feller .. |
Liu Kaskakka
PAK Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.09 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gary Barlow
Originally by: Kayosoni gratz bob.
asl?
Gary is my special friend.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Zarin
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Posted - 2007.01.09 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Rennard
This is very important what they will do. ASCN pvpers who lost, they didnt quit game, their skills still exists, their experience grow a lot more.
What will they do?
Join BOB?
We know how hard it is to make a bunch of carebears fight, how hard is it to make someone without a sense of honour, loyal to the Horde. I mean, if you build an alliance from fallen enemies, how quickly will they change sides next time?
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Riddlock
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.09 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zarin
Originally by: Ikvar
Originally by: Rennard
This is very important what they will do. ASCN pvpers who lost, they didnt quit game, their skills still exists, their experience grow a lot more.
What will they do?
Join BOB?
We know how hard it is to make a bunch of carebears fight, how hard is it to make someone without a sense of honour, loyal to the Horde. I mean, if you build an alliance from fallen enemies, how quickly will they change sides next time?
If bob gets the pvp'ers from ascn , wich tbh are not that many , bob will only get stronger , I personally think that will be very very very very very nice to fly in gangs with ppl who know how to fit a ship , have the isk to fit those pesky tech 2 items and actually perform the complicated things such as align, warp the fk off, activate f1-f8 on primary .
/me trains for dice forum warrioring skill
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