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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.14 07:17:22 -
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Gonna grab me pair of floor standing speakers below are few links that made it to final stage at this point i need some input from community what to buy and or personal preferences and why.
Feel free to add manufacturer i miss or you personally think is worth a look,i would like to keep price around 300 and up to 400 $ mark.
Cheers.
JBL
Pioneer
Polk audio
Polk audio opt 2
BIC America
Boston acoustic
Infinity
Pure acoustic
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
460
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Posted - 2015.11.14 07:53:33 -
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Not a sound-engineer, but worked with (touring) audio equipment.
1) Don't buy what you haven't been able to listen too. Use the same music for the test, to hear differences. 2) The final sound-quality does not only depend on the speakers but on the quality of each step from source to output. 3) The same speakers can sound differently in different rooms. 4) A separate subwoofer may be needed to get the full sound experience. 5) Gold-plated cables are non-sense.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
987
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Posted - 2015.11.14 09:24:19 -
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I have some 30 years young analog amp that i recently dusted off it have 4x100w RMS (450max) output at 4 ohm due to this every new speaker can be driven effortlessly due to them usually being 8 ohm few even 6.
I cant really test it because every speaker will sound louder on this amp and transporting amp it self gonna be pain and since i am not pairing new speakers with old ones(4 ohm 120w RMS yamahas) i just need to see what ppl see as good quality manufacturer and maybe some personal prefs so i can proceed with purchase.
Two current speakers are for tv/dvd/laptop that is used as media canter,two new ones gonna be for my desktop to listen music games separately from tv speaker bank stuff like that....something higher than 35' would be almost at ear level while seated and closer to 4 ohm the better
For now im favoring Pioneer just on specs but i never owned one. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2015.11.15 12:06:29 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:For now im favoring Pioneer just on specs but i never owned one.
It does get good reviews and Pioneer generally know what they are doing.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:52:18 -
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shame you left out Bower & Wilkins , if you want a good speaker i recommend B&W DM602 or DM603's
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
988
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Posted - 2015.11.17 20:27:52 -
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JBL
Got these at the end they are cut above from all linked ones imo.
....those B&W floor standing looks nice they better be excellent rather than good for their class. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:56:09 -
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Mina Sebiestar wrote:JBLGot these at the end they are cut above from all linked ones imo. ....those B&W floor standing looks nice they better be excellent rather than good for their class.
Good choice and good price.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2015.11.18 02:20:47 -
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Great to hear that audiophiles are still around! I've been living with PC speakers and headphones for too many years. It comes with marriage, kids, and sharing spaces with family members, I suppose. I miss the sounds of sound waves bouncing off of walls and filling a room.
(I learned an interesting thing learned while studying how to soundproof a little room for getting nice sound out of a guitar amp. (Generally, the curve on good tone drastically shoots up as the volume increases. X decibels-- OK. X + 10 decibels-- OMG, what have I been missing!) The thing learned was: Your house/apartment is built on a wooden frame network. Each beam of wood is a natural resonator and conductor of sound wave energy. And they're interjoined, so the vibrations carry through the whole grid of resonators. In other words, your house/apartment is like a giant resonating speaker system, sending vibrations to all rooms, and into the neighborhood. Stopping vibration energy leakage is kind of like stopping water leakage-- every little hole must be plugged).
You're trying to conquer me
You never will conquer me
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2015.11.18 07:43:32 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote: (Generally, the curve on good tone drastically shoots up as the volume increases. X decibels-- OK. X + 10 decibels-- OMG, what have I been missing!)
I'm not a sound-engineer, so take this with a pinch of salt. I will try to explain how I understood certain concepts from what I remember reading or having seen done at my old work.
First thing is that we need our ears to hear. The way the ear works is that variations in air pressure hit the eardrum which than passes it on to the cochlea which transforms it into electrical signals that our brain perceives as sound. The important part is that the cochlea is not equally sensitive to low, medium or high pressure waves. Whithin our hearing amplitude generally considered to be 20Hz to 20kHz, we are more sensitive to higher pitched sounds than to lower ones.
linked dspguide wrote:Table 22-1 shows the relationship between sound intensity and perceived loudness. It is common to express sound intensity on a logarithmic scale, called decibel SPL (Sound Power Level). On this scale, 0 dB SPL is a sound wave power of 10-16 watts/cm2, about the weakest sound detectable by the human ear. Normal speech is at about 60 dB SPL, while painful damage to the ear occurs at about 140 dB SPL.
(and two paragraphs below)
The range of human hearing is generally considered to be 20 Hz to 20 kHz, but it is far more sensitive to sounds between 1 kHz and 4 kHz. For example, listeners can detect sounds as low as 0 dB SPL at 3 kHz, but require 40 dB SPL at 100 hertz (an amplitude increase of 100). Listeners can tell that two tones are different if their frequencies differ by more than about 0.3% at 3 kHz. This increases to 3% at 100 hertz.
This probably explains a good chunk of why "X decibels-- OK. X + 10 decibels-- OMG, what have I been missing!"
Another thing is how (air pressure a.k.a. sound) waves travel through the air. Imagine ripples in the water from throwing stones into a pond. Smaller stone = smaller ripple that fade quicker. Larger stone = bigger ripples that spread further. It's similar with sound waves. Deep booming sounds (low-frequencies) carry further than high frequencies.
On a side note: very low frequencies are omni-directional, that's why the placement of your sub doesn't matter as much as the placement of your loudspeaker cabinet housing mid-range speakers and tweeters. High-frequencies are very directional. That's why tweeters are at the top of your floorstanding cabinets, and also explains why it is recommended to have them roughly at the height of you ears.
The soundwaves travel through the air from the source (loudspeaker) until they hit an object. What happens then is that a part of the energy of the soundwave is passed on to the object and a part is reflected. In a totally empty room, you will hear the reflected waves very well (might I say annoyingly well).
What happens to the energy that is passed on to the object ? For high frequencies, the energy dissipates generally. Lower frequencies can make the object vibrate, which creates new soundwaves. If you stand outside of a closed car, which has music unning, you will hear most of the lower frequencies but miss completely on the mid to high frequencies. And I think we all know that thump, thump, thump sound from the sub in a car that is still far away. This, passing on energy, is what makes complete soundproofing difficult / expensive.
The fact that high frequencies are very directional and that they dissipate quickly, is why positionning your loudspeakers correctly is important.
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2015.11.18 07:51:04 -
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part 2
Also, can someone explain what this thread is about?-á (Relax ! I'm just quoting Holgrak Blacksmith here.)
When life gives you lemons, swap letters and poof: melons, solemn melons.
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