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Anise Tig'res
Duchy Ministry of Slave Affairs
44
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:04:44 -
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Three hundred and thirteen years ago, the Khanid Kingdom under King Garkeh Khanid the Second out of ambition for his own future, and that of his people cut ties with the Amarr Empire in a swift rebellion. Our soldiers and our citizens laid down their lives in the name of this ambition, which has guided us through times of hardship and forced austerity.
We may never know the toll in blood our secession cost us, but it bought a renewed vigor to our people.
The influx of liberal and progressive holders from diverse ethnic backgrounds lead to widespread adoption of egalitarian social policy and higher business investment. With greater liberties for the people to come together in the name of enterprise and determination to make new and exciting industries to counter the struggles our fledgling empire faced. No longer would a man be forced to have his line endure a thousand years of slavery in the hopes that one day, his ancestor will be a free citizen among us. No more would we ourselves be bound by repressive doctrine in the exploration of gods world and no more would we be shacked to superstitious conservatives in the exploration of new technology.
We forged an alliance with the Caldari, accepted millions of their people among us to become the Khaldari. The flow of ideas and information between us, free of the repressive Imperial trade laws or the violent enforcement of the orthodoxy saw us build a logistic foundation far more robust and dynamic than any within the Empire. Ever ready to swiftly adapt to changes in the world around us, and in our own needs.
The navy, founded by those soldiers who flocked to our side in the secession became stronger for it, our allies and our own ingenuity creating powerful new technologies and new applications for existing ones. Without hampering from ridiculous laws limiting processing power out of fear motors and power junctions may question instructions.
Our artists and intellectuals were able to create freely, without the absolute domination of a single tradition. Exploring foreign forms of art and making them our own. Enriching our culture in the process.
And finally we have escaped this disastrous proxy war, with Capsuleers throwing the lives of civilians, technicians and soldiers at the Minmatar Republic; a group we have no business fighting with threats such as Nation and the Blood Raider Covenant on the horizon and who have clearly suffered wounds to deep to allow them to be converted without a war that would kill far to many and destroy too many worlds to be beneficial to anyone.
Not a person in this galaxy can objectively look at the advancement we have made over the Empire, the freedom we have attained, the superstition we have gotten rid of and say "They have regressed as a society, made their lots in life worse."
So why now has our king chosen to ignore the benefit, why does he disgrace the sacrifices and struggles his own family made in order to supplicate ourselves once more to the Imperial throne? Simply because they tolerate the clone Sarum does not mean they will accept our disagreement with the God flesh doctrine. While they ally themselves with the Caldari, it does not make them friends of progress.
King Khanid the Second, do you forget how many of your people they have killed? How many of their own they burn in the name of the status quo, of religious orthodoxy or their superstitions? Do you forget that we were a haven to the groups persecuted and betrayed by the Imperial Throne for centuries, such as the Order of St. Tetrimon?
I request of you, as heir of Edani VI, to revoke your claim to the Imperial Throne, dismiss your champions and return us to a position of friendship with the Empire, not the subjugation you have been so diligently working towards. If not for the benefits our secession brought, then for the families the Empire destroyed because of it, for the sons that never came home, and the children who never again saw their fathers. Many of whom are still very much with us, my family included. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2546
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:13:14 -
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Any lost lives you are mourning occurred only due to the arrogance of your king. If you are going to bemoan those deaths, at least blame the right person.
The kingdom has regressed. Your lots in life are worse, to say nothing of what you may face in the hereafter. Your kingdom has distanced itself from God to pursue selfish material aims and yet you take pride in it.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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Anise Tig'res
Duchy Ministry of Slave Affairs
44
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:37:04 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Instead, the only hope he's allowed is whatever you've programmed into his TCMC.
Yes, dear. Every immigrant to the Khanid Kingdom is strapped down, filled with cybernetics and put to work making microchips for export to the Caldari state. Ahh, how stressful it must be to believe everything you hear. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2547
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:52:14 -
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Oh, we're talking about immigrants? Because immigrants to the Empire aren't enslaved, either, you know.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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Anise Tig'res
Duchy Ministry of Slave Affairs
44
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:11:57 -
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No, instead they're forced to prove their conviction to the Amarr faith in a variety of trials, or to put up a farce while maintaining their real beliefs outside of the eyes of the authorities. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2547
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:19:03 -
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Obviously. God's laws are not there to be ignored.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
"Reclaim our Empire"
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
801
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Posted - 2015.11.15 07:53:26 -
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As one of those so called Immigrants, I can only say I was more then happy to prove my faith in order to receive citizenship. You can believe what you want to believe about the Kingdom and what your King should or should not do, but do not presume for a second you speak for every case of migration to the Empire.
Quote:"Which test reveals more of the soul, the test that a man will take to prove his faith, or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure. The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 5:14
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2337
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Posted - 2015.11.15 08:20:35 -
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When the Empire is split into two, both parts are weakened.
We are better together and I sincerely hope that reunification will happen next year, no matter who is sitting on the throne.
Yonis Ardishapur for Emperor
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2015.11.15 09:40:23 -
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A few minor points:
Anise Tig'res wrote:Three hundred and thirteen years ago, the Khanid Kingdom under King Garkeh Khanid the Second out of ambition for his own future, and that of his people cut ties with the Amarr Empire in a swift rebellion.
[. . . ]
No longer would a man be forced to have his line endure a thousand years of slavery in the hopes that one day, his ancestor will be a free citizen among us.
a)Descendant. b)How could anyone's line endure a thousand years of slavery in only three hundred thirteen years?
Quote: So why now has our king chosen to ignore the benefit, why does he disgrace the sacrifices and struggles his own family made in order to supplicate ourselves once more to the Imperial throne? Simply because they tolerate the clone Sarum does not mean they will accept our disagreement with the God flesh doctrine.
As it's been explained to me, the Theology Council can't overrule the Emperor. So if the Emperor officially decrees Sacred Flesh gone, it's gone. Otherwise? You know all those benefits you're citing? Perhaps he seeks to bring those benefits to the rest of the Empire, as well? |
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1451
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Posted - 2015.11.15 11:20:55 -
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Egalitarian social policy..?
Is that a joke? Er... Respectfully, I am not really fond of picking quarrel with anyone, but such a portrayal of facts and History makes me cringe... |
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Skyweir Kinnison
Coldhammer Harvest LLC
132
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Posted - 2015.11.15 11:22:56 -
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Arrendis wrote:As it's been explained to me, the Theology Council can't overrule the Emperor. So if the Emperor officially decrees Sacred Flesh gone, it's gone. Otherwise? You know all those benefits you're citing? Perhaps he seeks to bring those benefits to the rest of the Empire, as well?
This was my first thought on reading Lady Tig'res' post.
King Khanid is known to be a man of strong opinion and clearly widely revered by his people. He had little need to stand in the succession trials. Surely his motivation must be to bring the 'virtues' espoused to the wider Empire?
Such a development of policy would certainly bring stronger trade links with the Federation, and possibly a further rapprochement, which must be desirable in the current threat state.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1451
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Posted - 2015.11.15 11:25:41 -
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It is not about virtues more than it is about power, as usual, I feel. |
Anise Tig'res
Duchy Ministry of Slave Affairs
49
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Posted - 2015.11.15 11:51:36 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Egalitarian social policy..?
Is that a joke? Er... Respectfully, I am not really fond of picking quarrel with anyone, but such a portrayal of facts and History makes me cringe...
The Khaldari enclaves, our own local Ammatar populations and the comparatively far higher number of non True Amarr government officials and Holders would beg to differ with the idea that the Kingdom is not egalitarian. One does not need to be Khanid or True Amarr to advance to great heights within its ranks, we do not practice ideas of ethnic superiority as the Amarr do. |
Alizabeth Vea
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
615
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Posted - 2015.11.15 12:30:46 -
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You preach egalitarianism like a Gallente. I wasn't aware that was in fashion in the Kingdom.
Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar.
Retainer of House Sarum
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1452
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Posted - 2015.11.15 13:01:13 -
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Anise Tig'res wrote:Lyn Farel wrote:Egalitarian social policy..?
Is that a joke? Er... Respectfully, I am not really fond of picking quarrel with anyone, but such a portrayal of facts and History makes me cringe... The Khaldari enclaves, our own local Ammatar populations and the comparatively far higher number of non True Amarr government officials and Holders would beg to differ with the idea that the Kingdom is not egalitarian. One does not need to be Khanid or True Amarr to advance to great heights within its ranks, we do not practice ideas of ethnic superiority as the Amarr do.
Could you provide me with sources to read about that? I would be rather interested.
All I know is that all Holders are either True Amarr or Khanid, as well as the whole aristocracy as a whole. Slaves are treated even lower than they are in the Empire, as mere manpower cattle, and while most Khanid citizens enjoy greater liberties in terms of trade and personal initiatives, I really, really doubt that they account for much more than they already do in the demesne of Tash-Murkon themselves, which do not seem to limit themselves only to the Caldari as partners... |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2015.11.15 14:47:02 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:You preach egalitarianism like a Gallente. I wasn't aware that was in fashion in the Kingdom.
Doesn't Khanid have himself a pet Gallente? |
Anyanka Funk
Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik
324
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:25:12 -
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Arrendis wrote:Alizabeth Vea wrote:You preach egalitarianism like a Gallente. I wasn't aware that was in fashion in the Kingdom. Doesn't Khanid have himself a pet Gallente? Probably as many as the mittani. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2015.11.15 17:24:53 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Probably as many as the mittani.
Mittens doesn't own slaves, Funkybutt. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
2070
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Posted - 2015.11.15 18:59:04 -
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Ignore Funk. She's just grasping at relevance and edginess but failing.
Add the sorry creature to your block list and move forward.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2211
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Posted - 2015.11.15 20:02:59 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Ignore Funk. She's just grasping at relevance and edginess but failing.
Add the sorry creature to your block list and move forward. Well, if anyone really worth blocking here, it is Anabella Rella. Despite Ms. Funk is a wanted criminal and have done quite a lot of disgusting things and said disgusting words, at least, unlike Anabella Rella, who can only spew hatred and insults, Ms. Funk have some thoughts and ideas. And even if these ideas are brutal and inhuman, we should consider them and show why they shouldn't be brought to life.
Anabella Rella though is just a stupid insulting voice from the void.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
285
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Posted - 2015.11.15 20:30:16 -
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With all the bickering that goes on around here I find it difficult to see how anything gets properly discussed.
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Deitra Vess
Khushakor Clan Matari Safari
754
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Posted - 2015.11.15 20:41:12 -
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Things get discussed here? Thought it was just a platform for the Amarr to bicker amongst themselves for our amusement... |
Anyanka Funk
Hematology Advancement Program Sani-Sabik
324
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Posted - 2015.11.15 22:54:42 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Ignore Funk. She's just grasping at relevance and edginess but failing.
Add the sorry creature to your block list and move forward. Well, if anyone really worth blocking here, it is Anabella Rella. Despite Ms. Funk is a wanted criminal and have done quite a lot of disgusting things and said disgusting words, at least, unlike Anabella Rella, who can only spew hatred and insults, Ms. Funk have some thoughts and ideas. And even if these ideas are brutal and inhuman, we should consider them and show why they shouldn't be brought to life. Anabella Rella though is just a stupid insulting voice from the void. Arrendis is a mittani pet. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1606
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Posted - 2015.11.16 02:43:44 -
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Anyanka Funk wrote:Arrendis is a mittani pet.
Nah, I gotta work for a living. Pets get pampered and ****.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
859
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Posted - 2015.11.16 03:11:08 -
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Arrendis wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Arrendis is a mittani pet. Nah, I gotta work for a living. Pets get pampered and ****.
Mittani's employee then.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2079
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:51:08 -
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I'm so happy that I get under your skin so much that you always have to respond to my posts, even when what I'm saying is in no way directed at you, Kim-baka.
Get back under your bridge, troll.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1612
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Posted - 2015.11.17 00:55:18 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Mittani's employee then.
That, I most certainly am. The pay's pretty good at the 'order thousands of people around' level, too.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
863
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:39:31 -
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Arrendis wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Mittani's employee then. That, I most certainly am. The pay's pretty good at the 'order thousands of people around' level, too.
Are you speaking for the lower-level employees, middle-level employees, upper-level employees or all of them at once?
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1612
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:57:52 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Are you speaking for the lower-level employees, middle-level employees, upper-level employees or all of them at once?
I'm speaking for me. |
Alizabeth Vea
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
622
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Posted - 2015.11.17 03:00:03 -
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Arrendis wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Mittani's employee then. That, I most certainly am. The pay's pretty good at the 'order thousands of people around' level, too.
You're getting paid? I never got paid.
Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar.
Retainer of House Sarum
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