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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Battlecruisin' Space Goats
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:32:10 -
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I see alts running around blobbing people in lowsec/nullsec. I can't run sites or do anything whilst they are around. I try to fight back but eventually I need more isk for more ships.
Problem here is I can't wait untill they are collecting resources from that system and return the favor, because they never do. All the isk making is off on some Gila in 0.8 space farming refuges, and you can't reasonably kill those now can you? I tried to gank one with an 800 dps polarized catalyst, that didn't take 1 tenth of his shield buffer.
You can't actually play a game of war and kick people out because that deadspace fit orthurus is back in half an hour after your alliance killed him. So what if you were to follow him around and try to disrupt his isk making activities? Never going to happen, because he uses alts for that.
Essentially this makes lowsec/nullsec that premium content you must pay to play through alts or plex. Otherwise you go dirt broke and are forced back into highsec, happens every ******* time. I would rather play EVE then sit afk in a station waiting for someone to leave and do something else, but he never will because it's an alt and hes off making isk on another account.
CCP changed sov to make people use their own systems. Dunno how well that's working.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1013
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:45:44 -
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*use a map for a change.... Plenty of fight in zero sec. |
Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Battlecruisin' Space Goats
443
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:46:54 -
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Johan Civire wrote:*use a map for a change.... Plenty of fight in zero sec.
How do you fight an enemy you can't harm?
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:48:00 -
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You have been in a reasonable sized alliance before. I don't think there is anything to say that you shouldn't know already.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Battlecruisin' Space Goats
443
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:52:20 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:You have been in a reasonable sized alliance before. I don't think there is anything to say that you shouldn't know already.
The only things that hurt were the hit and run blobs constantly present. But the only ones who get hurt in that scenario are the ones not roaming elsewhere.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
447
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Posted - 2015.11.15 16:08:28 -
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As in any strategy game, to kill your enemy the most critical blow is to kill their economy.
In the past, I found that hitting the botters had a good effect on pissing off the russians, but this is certainly true of any alliance I'm sure. |
Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Battlecruisin' Space Goats
443
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Posted - 2015.11.15 18:37:26 -
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Kuronaga wrote:As in any strategy game, to kill your enemy the most critical blow is to kill their economy.
In the past, I found that hitting the botters had a good effect on pissing off the russians, but this is certainly true of any alliance I'm sure.
Just got to find their bots, usually in lowsec you'll only find their pvp logon alts. Then there's the fact their bots are previously said 0.8 sec, refuge farming gilas. Sooooo....
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Trajan Unknown
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
72
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Posted - 2015.11.15 18:49:58 -
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There might come a time where npc corps are no no brainer anymore and one can join them but actually pays the price for that by getting involved into their political games and wars. Until than it is like it is. :) |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
374
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Posted - 2015.11.15 19:30:09 -
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What the heck do NPC corps have to do with the problems named by the OP? |
Kaivar Lancer
Placid Peace Corps
704
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Posted - 2015.11.15 21:35:14 -
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All of Eve should be low sec. |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1696
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Posted - 2015.11.15 22:25:04 -
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Can someone explain to me the OP point?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Alternate Allegiance
930
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:09:56 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Can someone explain to me the OP point?
I think he is complaining because he can't single handedly kick out entire alliances?
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Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
159
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:20:10 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Can someone explain to me the OP point?
It sounds like he is mad because he cannot carebear in peace out in nullsec, and he lacks the means to properly gank people carebearing in highsec whom he imagines are the alts of the people who are disrupting his nullsec carebearing.
Or something. Maybe.
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Daerrol
Death By Design Did he say Jump
255
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:45:06 -
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What exactly is the problem here? You can't kill farmers all day and buy plex? D'uh why would people want to give you those kind of kills?
Wars happen all the time. Or at least Rivalries. We have a few groups in Bleak Lands who's day we try especially hard to ruin (and have had our day ruined by them more than once!) All in all, it's GREAT fun. |
Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
2027
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:07:47 -
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just because you can't make isk in low/null doesn't mean other players can't. there are a lot of interesting opportunities out there. not to mention the alliance level income streams. That said there has been some crazy shenanigans going on with highsec income lately. but the afk gila probably isn't a good example of that. Although I haven't compared afk mission gila to afk null anom gila.
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4745
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Posted - 2015.11.16 03:09:30 -
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You can make decent ISK relatively safely in high-sec.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Shitposting Forum Alt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2015.11.16 20:30:15 -
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Are the forums always this ******** or is it just this one guy? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5523
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Posted - 2015.11.16 20:39:23 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:You can make decent ISK relatively safely in high-sec. I know of two hisec systems where I always see the same Goons running missions.
The average system population for both systems is probably around 7. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3695
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Posted - 2015.11.16 21:39:21 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Johan Civire wrote:*use a map for a change.... Plenty of fight in zero sec. How do you fight an enemy you can't harm? By being someone who cannot be harmed. You have three slots in your account. You too can have alts.
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2015.11.16 22:11:09 -
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You are 100% correct OP, for EvE to work as intended the alt culture has to go. Unfortunately for CCP this is likely an impossible task.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Kharaxus
Ninja Pixels
88
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Posted - 2015.11.16 22:15:16 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:I see alts running around blobbing people in lowsec/nullsec. I can't run sites or do anything whilst they are around. I try to fight back but eventually I need more isk for more ships.
1. Leave the system and go somewhere else.
2. Don't run sites if/when there are people in system you can't do anything about.
3. You don't need more ISK, you need to stop killing ships you can't replace.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Black Hydra Consortium.
2074
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Posted - 2015.11.16 22:15:59 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:All of Eve should be low sec. **** gate guns.
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M'pact
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 22:33:09 -
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I don't understand. I was in sov null-sec on another character (my very first one), and had no problems whatsoever running anomalies in peace. I didn't have alts either -- just the one character to PvP and make ISK. When we weren't roaming, we'd only see a few neutrals an hour coming through our systems. Could easily complete Havens and Sanctums in between seeing neutrals, or just start aligning when they arrived if we weren't done yet. I had my own POS, and was making my own projectile ammo and heavy missiles so I didn't have to pay somebody else to make and transport them.
And now with this character I do roams with my corpies all the time and see nobody for twenty or more systems that have plenty of anomalies to run.
Maybe it's the particular places you've been trying to do this in. The times are important too -- prime-time is different from late night.
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:02:35 -
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Kharaxus wrote:
1. Leave the system and go somewhere else.
2. Don't run sites if/when there are people in system you can't do anything about.
3. You don't need more ISK, you need to stop killing ships you can't replace.
2 is practically impossible. People are ALWAYS in system, and if they aren't, they will be. I already mentioned this when I said I would rather not sit docked up doing nothing.
3 is just a symptom. I can't rat null and low any lower than an algos with T2 drones and T2 lows, they die too often to players. Hell I recently lost an afk cloaked prospect due to cloaking not agreeing with belt rats. I wouldn't have been afk cloaked if I had the option to be in space without cloak.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Tremain Oldfield
Terra Australis. DropBear Sanctuary
1
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:27:58 -
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If running anoms is ur thing then don't run them in high sec, u would be better of finding an alliance based in a quiet part of low or null n ratting there. Unless ur goin to run incursions or run lvl 4 missions high sec isn't that great for ratting. |
Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:45:01 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:
3 is just a symptom. I can't rat null and low any lower than an algos with T2 drones and T2 lows, they die too often to players. Hell I recently lost an afk cloaked prospect due to cloaking not agreeing with belt rats. I wouldn't have been afk cloaked if I had the option to be in space without cloak. I was cloak mining in small bits before I said **** it and went afk, but then belt rats decloaked me 2 hours before I even came back. If I can't fight em, i'll afk cloak em. (which does not solve the problem btw) Cloak mining was a last resort as war decs meant we weren't allowed into highsec. Gotta make isk somehow while being chased around lowsec by everybody and their grandmother whilst the blues are off doing fleets 20 jumps away.
I just...what? You went AFK cloaky right in the middle of a belt? For hours? Why didn't you warp off to a safe before going cloaky and AFK ?
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
131
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Posted - 2015.11.17 07:23:55 -
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Hal Morsh wrote: Essentially this makes lowsec/nullsec that premium content you must pay to play through alts or plex. Otherwise you go dirt broke and are forced back into highsec, happens every ******* time.
Eh, I MIGHT agree on the null sec part to a limited degree, but you couldn't be more wrong about lowsec, if you are having that much trouble there, then either smarten up, increase your carebear capacity even more, or unsub.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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Yang Aurilen
Conspiracy Theory. Project.Mayhem.
982
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Posted - 2015.11.17 09:43:26 -
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TL;DR version I cannot GIT GUD. Seriously you whine about everything you do in EVE.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3637
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:51:11 -
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Hal Morsh is a strong contender for worst eve player. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2015.11.17 17:55:04 -
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Kharaxus wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:I see alts running around blobbing people in lowsec/nullsec. I can't run sites or do anything whilst they are around. I try to fight back but eventually I need more isk for more ships. 1. Leave the system and go somewhere else. 2. Don't run sites if/when there are people in system you can't do anything about. 3. You don't need more ISK, you need to stop killing ships you can't replace.
I wish I knew that the other day when I spent 75 million on subsystem books.
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