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General Panic
Freelance Logistics Co.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 10:40:05 -
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Hi,
I need some advice on wartargets in eve and how experienced empire wardeccers chase down targets that constantly leave there corps.
We recently Decced a corp of 18 people and they have, in the last 16 hours or so, left there corporation (or are doing) in to similar named corps that obviously exist to avoid the wardec with us, or anyone else for that matter.
Aside from an aggressive campaign of suicide ganking and bumping the targets no matter where these EVE hard men run to i can't really think of anything else we can do. It's unfortunate that we cannot afford to dec every single corp they run to, which we would be prepared to do.
These people reap the benefits of a corporation but successfully avoid any of the downsides, a sure avoidance of the Risk Vs Reward nature of eve
Be sure that this is the char I intend to fight with and to corporation in question is HC - Sinindustries, not to be confused with HC - Sinindustry, which they are moving to.
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Bloemkoolsaus
Viperfleet Inc. It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
205
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Posted - 2015.11.17 11:36:00 -
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You could infilttrate their corp and burn it from the inside. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.17 11:38:41 -
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You'll get many helpful, not-so-helpful, and always entertaining answers by posting your questions about wardecs in the Crime and Punishment section. Those guys are the experts.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1824
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Posted - 2015.11.17 11:44:43 -
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pick your targets better.
"These people reap the benefits of a corporation but successfully avoid any of the downsides, a sure avoidance of the Risk Vs Reward nature of eve"
bit hypocritical coming from a wardeccer
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
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General Panic
Freelance Logistics Co.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 11:58:19 -
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Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
Unlike Most empire wars, The kind that obviously make you upset, i have a reason to shoot these people and it's not like you can say I'm bullying them. I'd be quite happy to deal with the down sides of being in my corp.
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Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
168
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:19:42 -
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General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry.
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General Panic
Freelance Logistics Co.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:38:29 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry.
I don't think they are as badassed as they sound either trust me, all mouth in local, seems they've got no trousers too.
But circumstances aside, there any advice on this or is it simply a case of having a billion isk to dec all the corps they might run to until they run out of Hogs Collective corps? |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1827
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:46:17 -
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no nothing you can do, if someone doesnt want to fight you they dont have to
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
104
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:53:24 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry.
Sadly, you have revealed your lack of experience in these matters. I started running aggressive solo wardecs with this character when he was 2 days old. It was quite common for defenders to talk tough when wardecced by such a newbie only to roll their corp and evade the wardec, or to spend the war cowering in station while I camped them in with my meta fit Slasher. So OP's experience is actually quite typical. Never underestimate the sheer naked panic of the highsec carebear under wardec.
@OP you will drive yourself nuts trying to chase after wardec evaders. It will affect your fun/hour ratio if you allow it to. Take my advice and just let them go and find a better target. They will have to live with the shame of what they have done - let that be enough.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1827
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Posted - 2015.11.17 12:58:45 -
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if non pvp wartargets evade wardecs that you keep paying for and without getting a kill then they are will not feel any shame as in fact they have won the isk war
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
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General Panic
Freelance Logistics Co.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 13:10:08 -
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Well I'll happily steal/destroy ore in space until the money is equaled, or, resort to suicide ganking. Funny that that's basically the only options.
Would rather had a proper fight though. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1827
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Posted - 2015.11.17 13:13:21 -
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if you want a proper fight wardec someone relevant or go to lowsec, plenty of fights around
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
937
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Posted - 2015.11.17 13:38:15 -
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This is certainly not a new player question. Your character may be young but my guess is that you are using the trial account system to stretch the limits of the risk versus reward balance in your own favor and whining about someone else doing something similar.
Arguments could be made that the risk versus reward balance in high sec is far too tilted towards wardec griefers and gankers.
Regardless of the balance or lack there of in regards to high sec risk versus reward I liken this to people that whine about docking games and to them I say then don't engage people on station. Make them fight somewhere else.
So more specifically to this situation I can say that if you don't like what you are getting from the high sec war dec mechanics then move to null or low sec. I guarantee you won't have the same issue there.
And just to restate what has been said already by others this is the NC Q&A. I know that New Character is in the name but my assumption is that this section of the forums is reserved for new players with newbie questions. It is a safe haven from new players IMHO and attempts are made to keep it free of trolling. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
937
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Posted - 2015.11.17 13:44:39 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry. Sadly, you have revealed your lack of experience in these matters. I started running aggressive solo wardecs with this character when he was 2 days old. It was quite common for defenders to talk tough when wardecced by such a newbie only to roll their corp and evade the wardec, or to spend the war cowering in station while I camped them in with my meta fit Slasher. So OP's experience is actually quite typical. Never underestimate the sheer naked panic of the highsec carebear under wardec. @OP you will drive yourself nuts trying to chase after wardec evaders. It will affect your fun/hour ratio if you allow it to. Take my advice and just let them go and find a better target. They will have to live with the shame of what they have done - let that be enough. This thread is starting to feel like a troll. Please keep troll posts out of the NC Q&A. This is a safe haven for new players please keep that in mind and treat it like a starter system in game which is kept gank and scam free. |
Syeed Ameer Ali
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2015.11.17 13:49:05 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry. Sadly, you have revealed your lack of experience in these matters. I started running aggressive solo wardecs with this character when he was 2 days old. It was quite common for defenders to talk tough when wardecced by such a newbie only to roll their corp and evade the wardec, or to spend the war cowering in station while I camped them in with my meta fit Slasher. So OP's experience is actually quite typical. Never underestimate the sheer naked panic of the highsec carebear under wardec. @OP you will drive yourself nuts trying to chase after wardec evaders. It will affect your fun/hour ratio if you allow it to. Take my advice and just let them go and find a better target. They will have to live with the shame of what they have done - let that be enough. This thread is starting to feel like a troll. Please keep troll posts out of the NC Q&A. This is a safe haven for new players please keep that in mind and treat it like a starter system in game which is kept gank and scam free.
Don't be such a ****. My post was not meant to troll anyone, but to answer the OP's question and respond to one of the other comments from my own experience. I myself was running offensive wardecs when I was a new player, so don't be so quick to judge OP or others in his situation. Wardeccing in highsec is a fun and rewarding playstyle for players of all ages, and there is no reason that someone should not ask questions about it in NCQA.
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General Panic
Freelance Logistics Co.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:00:26 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry. Sadly, you have revealed your lack of experience in these matters. I started running aggressive solo wardecs with this character when he was 2 days old. It was quite common for defenders to talk tough when wardecced by such a newbie only to roll their corp and evade the wardec, or to spend the war cowering in station while I camped them in with my meta fit Slasher. So OP's experience is actually quite typical. Never underestimate the sheer naked panic of the highsec carebear under wardec. @OP you will drive yourself nuts trying to chase after wardec evaders. It will affect your fun/hour ratio if you allow it to. Take my advice and just let them go and find a better target. They will have to live with the shame of what they have done - let that be enough. This thread is starting to feel like a troll. Please keep troll posts out of the NC Q&A. This is a safe haven for new players please keep that in mind and treat it like a starter system in game which is kept gank and scam free. Don't be such a ****. My post was not meant to troll anyone, but to answer the OP's question and respond to one of the other comments from my own experience. I myself was running offensive wardecs when I was a new player, so don't be so quick to judge OP or others in his situation. Wardeccing in highsec is a fun and rewarding playstyle for players of all ages, and there is no reason that someone should not ask questions about it in NCQA.
Saying this is a troll is unfair.
Not only can i not ask this question anywhere else it's also a valid question. I simply wanted to know What things could be done about this situation.
There's some specfic people i want to kill
They left the corp i Decced
I wanted to know if this is the done thing.
If this is a safe haven for new players answer the question don't get shirty about your perception of a high sec war dec. Syeed Ameer Ali has actually answered my question - thanks.
It's also an interesting topic to discuss - If war, as a mechanic, is not for new players, then why let them get involved in it?
Thanks for all that replied. I'm currently trying to work around this with some other players.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:04:47 -
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there is no workaround, simply if the player does not want to fight you then you have to suicide
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Lulu Lunette
Blue Aurochs United Systems of Aridia
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:10:11 -
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Should just get rid of wardecs and nerf high sec anyway
:tinfoil:
Ganking would be best option
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:39:56 -
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OP, I would be inclined to turn your attentions towards ergherhdfgh...if only, that is, they weren't hiding behind an NPC posting alt.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3638
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:40:14 -
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Those Hogs Collective people are a nightmare. They talk endless smack and drop or roll their corps at the drop of a hat. They're also extremely bad.
The best success we had against them was declaring war on one of their WH groups and tracking them into their hole (they jump in and out constantly for no apparent reason) and engaged them in there. We had like a 10 man T3 fleet expecting to get a fight because they had like 15 dudes in there, but our bait proteus soloed their fleet.
Your best bet against the group on the whole would probably be to declare war on Airhogs and Aporkalypse Now and whichever corps you can find running missions out of Apanake then staking out that general area. You have to watch and follow them like an obsessive stalker though cause they're very skittish.
Don't expect to get a real engagement out of them, they'll avoid shooting back at you in an organized way at all costs. |
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
1303
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Posted - 2015.11.17 16:05:09 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Those Hogs Collective people are a nightmare. They talk endless smack and drop or roll their corps at the drop of a hat. Confirming, if you look at an HC character's employment history it is very common to see them rotating through 3-5 different corporations.
I actually found one of their wormholes the other day...didn't save it though. Bummer. Last time I was there I killed a noctis of theirs and the ishtars "protecting" it got so confused they shot each other. (I think there was some multi-boxing going on...)
Basically they aren't a very good target unless you're willing to shell out a lot of ISK and even then they can just drop to NPC corp for a bit. They've really got war dodging down to a science. If you really want to hurt them, infiltration / the long game might be a better option. I'm sure they have friendly fire off, so you might have to do some mining (bleh!) until you are trusted enough to hold something valuable.
It's worth noting that they sometimes will enter Genesis lowsec when the locals (me) aren't being particularly aggressive. Antem - New Eden pipe is their usual haunt IIRC. There are larger threats in the area though....lots of cynos so be on your toes and make sure you're checking killboards when choosing an engagement.
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Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.17 16:22:58 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:General Panic wrote:Trudeaux Margaret - Thanks for the info - I would have put it there but Trial accounts can post outside of this forum. Since I'm new and it is a question i guess it should go here.
Lan Wang - It's cool that you want to contribute but these eve hard men threatening a lowly 12 day old char like my self then running away from the flow up wardec. I'm not sure what other criteria a dec should have other than 'reason'.
You're a "lowly 12 day old char" on a trial account, wardeccing "eve hard men"? They're not that badassed if they have to break up their corp to run away from your dec. Your story isn't adding up, sorry. Sadly, you have revealed your lack of experience in these matters. I started running aggressive solo wardecs with this character when he was 2 days old. It was quite common for defenders to talk tough when wardecced by such a newbie only to roll their corp and evade the wardec, or to spend the war cowering in station while I camped them in with my meta fit Slasher.
If true, that is both sad and hilarious.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.11.17 17:46:00 -
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You've got no idea. Defenders almost never attempt self defense at all, against any aggressor no matter how weak or strong the aggressor actually is.
You can try this for yourself. Roll an alt, form a 1 man corp and declare war on someone. Show up in a meta fit frigate and see what happens. 9 times out of ten you can camp an entire corp into their HQ without them even undocking to see what you're in.
Highsec corps and alliances that aren't dedicated PVP groups literally don't defend themselves anymore, you can be bashing their customs offices solo in a talos and they won't do anything even if they have ten dudes in system.
There are some exceptions, but they really are exceptional. As a rule the dedicated highsec PVP has a total monopoly on combat in highsec, a defender that actually needs something defended will hire mercs, not do it themselves, if they don't have assets to defend they'll drop corp, stay logged off for the entire duration or totally ignore the war and get killed. But before the war goes live they'lltalk smack about how they're going to whoop your ass. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12838
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Posted - 2015.11.17 18:31:22 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:You've got no idea. Defenders almost never attempt self defense at all, against any aggressor no matter how weak or strong the aggressor actually is.
You can try this for yourself. Roll an alt, form a 1 man corp and declare war on someone. Show up in a meta fit frigate and see what happens. 9 times out of ten you can camp an entire corp into their HQ without them even undocking to see what you're in.
Highsec corps and alliances that aren't dedicated PVP groups literally don't defend themselves anymore, you can be bashing their customs offices solo in a talos and they won't do anything even if they have ten dudes in system.
There are some exceptions, but they really are exceptional. As a rule the dedicated highsec PVP has a total monopoly on combat in highsec, a defender that actually needs something defended will hire mercs, not do it themselves, if they don't have assets to defend they'll drop corp, stay logged off for the entire duration or totally ignore the war and get killed. But before the war goes live they'lltalk smack about how they're going to whoop your ass. This is actually fairly accurate. There's a reason we call it hunting targets.
Better the Devil you know.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2015.11.17 18:37:14 -
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The solution is simple, find targets that want to fight back.
Although you're not likely to find many in high-sec. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
173
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Posted - 2015.11.17 19:30:38 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:You've got no idea. Defenders almost never attempt self defense at all, against any aggressor no matter how weak or strong the aggressor actually is.
You can try this for yourself. Roll an alt, form a 1 man corp and declare war on someone. Show up in a meta fit frigate and see what happens. 9 times out of ten you can camp an entire corp into their HQ without them even undocking to see what you're in.
Highsec corps and alliances that aren't dedicated PVP groups literally don't defend themselves anymore, you can be bashing their customs offices solo in a talos and they won't do anything even if they have ten dudes in system.
There are some exceptions, but they really are exceptional. As a rule the dedicated highsec PVP has a total monopoly on combat in highsec, a defender that actually needs something defended will hire mercs, not do it themselves, if they don't have assets to defend they'll drop corp, stay logged off for the entire duration or totally ignore the war and get killed. But before the war goes live they'lltalk smack about how they're going to whoop your ass.
Just as an anecdotal aside, I was on the other side of wardecs when I was a baby EVE player and I had the complete opposite mentality. I was incredibly bloodthirsty and foolhardy and wondered why we didn't just go kill 'em all with our obviously superior firepower (ha ha, yes, I know that's hilarious). (Break-A-Wish was one of our many adversaries IIRC ) That corp's leadership weren't in the least bit a bunch of carebears, but I think they wanted to minimize losses, so they had us all docked up as much as they could keep us that way. I managed to only get ganked by a WT once in two months time, even with how goofy I was.
After just a couple of months in high sec, I eventually wound up in Curse learning to camp a drag bubble and I was much happier there even though I missed the guys in the old corp.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3643
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Posted - 2015.11.17 19:43:08 -
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I generally had the same mentality as a new EVE player, particularly when I was in a 300 man alliance that routinely got wardecs from 2-10 man groups. There didn't seem like there was a logical reason not to be beating their heads in, particularly given how a lot of them did really dumb stuff and could tended 2 typ lik dis in local m8. Anyone that dumb had to explode. So me and some bros went on battleclinic, put together pvp ships (with terrible battleclinic fits) and blew them the hell up.
Later on we decided that the people declaring war on us were having all the fun and we quit, tolled new characters and formed a wardec corp with the intent of combining all the biggest problems we dealt with as carebears. A few years later we started an alliance. Now we're everyone in highsec's worst nightmare! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12838
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Posted - 2015.11.17 20:17:50 -
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Well that's the thing isn't it, bloodthirsty savages stick out amongst the sheep and tend to get recruited/kidnapped by whatever breed of predators stalk them, or they strike out into the wilds and become pirates/nullboyos (unless they're Russian, then they end up in P I R A T humping amarr)
Leaving whatever Corp they came from entirely devoid of the will to extract sooner fun from a conflict.
Better the Devil you know.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
938
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:03:48 -
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General Panic wrote:
If this is a safe haven for new players answer the question don't get shirty about your perception of a high sec war dec. Syeed Ameer Ali has actually answered my question - thanks.
It's also an interesting topic to discuss - If war, as a mechanic, is not for new players, then why let them get involved in it?
It is not that the war mechanic is not for new player just that your line of questioning is not a a level that the typical 2 week old player would be asking. I was saying that you seemed like a more experienced player asking a more complicated question something that probably belongs in Crime and punishment. I understand that you can't post there on a trial but if you are an experienced player constantly rerolling trials that does not quite seem fair to the other new players who are legitimate newbies.
If you have actually only been playing the game for about 2 weeks then my comment does not apply to you however I have no way of knowing if you are or not so posted what I did and left it for you to figure out what category that you fit into.
However you decided to become belligerent with me and accuse me of "getting shirty". That is almost text book troll.
Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:
Don't be such a ****. My post was not meant to troll anyone,
You post like this and expect me to believe that you are not a troll?
Bumblefck wrote:OP, I would be inclined to turn your attentions towards ergherhdfgh...if only, that is, they weren't hiding behind an NPC posting alt. Not sure what me hiding behind a forum alt has to do with the thread being a troll thread or not. I could have just reported it as a troll thread and it would have likely gotten locked down. However I simply asked the OP and other posters to give heed to the fact that this is the NC Q&A.
But then you Bumblefck decide to go on and troll with you comment about me being a forum alt.
So immediately after me asking people to keep in mind that this is the NC Q&A and to not troll we get 3 troll posts. Thanks guys. Next time I'll just report the thread and let ISD sort it out. |
Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
2036
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Posted - 2015.11.18 02:47:53 -
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there is a reason signal uses #wardork You really don't have to wardec us, just find us out in unsafe space.
highsec wars are ineffective as they give the target 24 hours to prepare. The only reason I can think of for a war is to blow up a pos or poco. Beyond that it is trivial for the target to scatter into the wind, or just log off for a week.
if you have a gripe with a single player or even a group of players my feeling is that it is far more effective to suicide gank them. They probably won't see it coming and gives you a chance to hit them where it hurts. Either that or as said by someone else infiltrate their corp, gain trust, and rob them blind.
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