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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
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Posted - 2015.11.23 14:02:00 -
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Then i have good news for you:
Jove Frigate Skillbook |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15078
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Posted - 2015.11.23 14:20:22 -
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Now all you need is to befriend a Jovian pilot whom can acquire the book for you.
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
182
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Posted - 2015.11.23 14:47:34 -
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Chribba wrote:Now all you need is to befriend a Jovian pilot whom can acquire the book for you.
Maybe you can help me with that, Chribba? Since you sure do know the who-is-who of eve better, than i do.
No, but seriously, i just checked some database entries on SISI, to see, if i can find out something about the new "Operation Frostline" sites. And i stumbled over this skillbook. But it seems, i got hyped a little too easy, since apparantly, these skillbooks are in the database for quite some time already. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9192
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Posted - 2015.11.23 15:10:46 -
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2003 called, they want their news back
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Bl00dyAngel
Heeresversuchsanstalt The Bastion
57
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Posted - 2015.11.23 17:47:30 -
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yeah, this skillbook nothing new in eve. it's allows to fly the polaris class frigs for example. The devs use them |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.11.23 17:50:40 -
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I still want to have Eidolon battleship.
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.11.23 18:25:00 -
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Bl00dyAngel wrote:yeah, this skillbook nothing new in eve. it's allows to fly the polaris class frigs for example. The devs use them
So they are dev exclusive ships. Any chance of being made available to players in the future (near and distant)? I would assume as much, given increased presence of Drifters in-game. |
Memphis Baas
751
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Posted - 2015.11.23 19:07:43 -
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Pryce Caesar wrote:So they are dev exclusive ships. Any chance of being made available to players in the future (near and distant)? I would assume as much, given increased presence of Drifters in-game.
If you go by the time period of 2003-2015 (12 years), then the answer is no. The devs had them from the beginning and did NOT make them available to players.
The Jove ships (currently) have overpowered stats, and the Jove race is presented as overpowered, compared to what the other races have, and it makes sense to have something like that as an enemy or faction that you may or may not have a hope of defeating. But not as player ships, because overpowered player ships would make all current ships worthless.
Basically, you don't see any of the other MMO's giving the spells that raid bosses use, including the "if you're not behind the pillar you instantly die" stuff, to players. So it's kinda the same here. |
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3599
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Posted - 2015.11.23 20:25:06 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I still want to have Eidolon battleship.
It looks like a particularly odd turd. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
284
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Posted - 2015.11.23 21:21:44 -
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Let me out it this way.
A long, long, long time ago a bunch of us fought a Jovian battleship on SISI.
We got rekt.
You are talking about caps, High dps BB, etc, ganging a Dev controlled Jovian BB using no cheats/hacks.
He killed everyone, quote easily. Only thing that didn't die quickly were heavily tanked capitals. Which still died after.
Been around since the beginning.
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1141
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Posted - 2015.11.24 01:44:46 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Nana Skalski wrote:I still want to have Eidolon battleship. It looks like a particularly odd turd.
You need fiber and counselling. From a team of experts.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
1917
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Posted - 2015.11.24 09:20:24 -
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Pryce Caesar wrote:Bl00dyAngel wrote:yeah, this skillbook nothing new in eve. it's allows to fly the polaris class frigs for example. The devs use them So they are dev exclusive ships. Any chance of being made available to players in the future (near and distant)? I would assume as much, given increased presence of Drifters in-game.
Shield Capacity - 6250 HP Shield EM Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Shield Explosive Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Shield Thermal Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Shield recharge time - 3000 ms
Armor Statistics Armor Capacity - 10000 HP Armor EM Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Armor Explosive Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance - 99.9 % Armor Thermal Damage Resistance - 99.9 %
Structure Capacity - 1249999 HP Structure EM Damage Resistance - 0 % Structure Explosive Damage Resistance - 0 % Structure Kinetic Damage Resistance - 0 % Structure Thermal Damage Resistance - 0 %
Yes im sure ccp would give this out to players... we were hitting a tower once and seen one being used, we couldnt kill it, they use them for watching stuff and doing the news
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.11.24 15:52:45 -
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Yikes. They won't even give players a nerfed version of those? |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
662
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Posted - 2015.11.24 16:58:23 -
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Pryce Caesar wrote:Yikes. They won't even give players a nerfed version of those?
Wouldn't make sense lore-wise either, since they are OP'ed both for reals and in lore, meaning CCP would have to come up with a damn good story for...
a) how their tech fell into our hands and, more importantly... b) why it happens to coincidentally be tech that is not the good Jove tech but still looks like the good Jove tech. We'd also need a good reason why the Jove wouldn't suddenly go ape **** nuts once they've realized we've stolen their stuff, because they certainly wouldn't just sell or give it to us. Why the hell would they?
My advice for anyone asking for CONCORD or Jove tech, come up with a story explaining how and why we get it first.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.11.25 05:39:31 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Pryce Caesar wrote:Yikes. They won't even give players a nerfed version of those? Wouldn't make sense lore-wise either, since they are OP'ed both for reals and in lore, meaning CCP would have to come up with a damn good story for... a) how their tech fell into our hands and, more importantly... b) why it happens to coincidentally be tech that is not the good Jove tech but still looks like the good Jove tech. We'd also need a good reason why the Jove wouldn't suddenly go ape **** nuts once they've realized we've stolen their stuff, because they certainly wouldn't just sell or give it to us. Why the hell would they? My advice for anyone asking for CONCORD or Jove tech, come up with a story explaining how and why we get it first.
"In response to the growing threat of the Drifters to the stability of the four major nations, the Jove have consented to CONCORD's negotiations and have agreed to make Jovian technologies and ships available to Capsuleers, in order to deal with the growing threat.
However, inspections of the ships and modules provided to the four nations have revealed that, while undoubtedly Jovian tech, the ships and modules in questions are of a much lower caliber than actual Jovian ships. Although they are still advanced enough to be on the level of the currently existing Tech 3 ships of the four nations, they still pale in comparison to "true" Jovian vessels.
When asked about why the Jovians were still withholding their technologies, the Jove responded: "Your empires are not ready to possess our technologies. Even if we did give you said technology, you wouldn't understand, and would only be able to make inferior copies anyway. That is why the ships we provided only possess technologies at a level where you are capable of understanding them."
Furthermore, the Jovian technology has been banned from being possessed by any of the four nations, so as to keep any of them from having an advantage over the other nations, leaving the Jovian tech in the hands of the Capsuleers exclusively."
Just wrote this up now. What do you think? |
Yockerbow
Aliastra Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2015.11.25 06:00:00 -
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Pryce Caesar wrote:"In response to the growing threat of the Drifters to the stability of the four major nations, the Jove have consented to CONCORD's negotiations and have agreed to make Jovian technologies and ships available to Capsuleers, in order to deal with the growing threat. However, inspections of the ships and modules provided to the four nations have revealed that, while undoubtedly Jovian tech, the ships and modules in questions are of a much lower caliber than actual Jovian ships. Although they are still advanced enough to be on the level of the currently existing Tech 3 ships of the four nations, they still pale in comparison to "true" Jovian vessels. When asked about why the Jovians were still withholding their technologies, the Jove responded: "Your empires are not ready to possess our technologies. Even if we did give you said technology, you wouldn't understand, and would only be able to make inferior copies anyway. That is why the ships we provided only possess technologies at a level where you are capable of understanding them." Furthermore, the Jovian technology has been banned from being possessed by any of the four nations, so as to keep any of them from having an advantage over the other nations, leaving the Jovian tech in the hands of the Capsuleers exclusively." Just wrote this up now. What do you think?
Well for one, this would require the Jove to actually say something. There has been ZERO communication from the Jovian Directorate for years (since early 2011 if I recall correctly, just after Sansha Incursions became a thing). That plus the star that kinda exploded in their space has a lot of people thinking the Directorate is very close to (if not already past) complete collapse or extinction.
On the other hand, capsuleers finding abandoned hulls and limited reverse engineering could lead to the proliferation of "gimped" Jove ships that are still quite powerful, though their original full capabilities would be largely lost due to very incomplete understanding of the technology behind them. Basically the same arm-waving used for Tech 3 ships built from Sleeper tech (spoiler: Sleepers are ancient Jove offshoots). |
Memphis Baas
754
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:29:42 -
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Except, moving on to issue number 2, as show in-game, neither Drifter nor Sleeper ships look anything like Jove ships. And the current lore seems to be pitting us against Drifters and Sleepers, which means if we reverse-engineer anything, it will be their ships, not Jove.
Forget about the Jove ships; they are dev-only ships and we won't get them. CCP can introduce NEW ships for us, and make them overpowered, but again the question is why would they ruin the game balance that they worked so hard to achieve by overpowering some of the ships?
I love doing chess analogies, so I'll do one more: chess is a widely-known game, there are championships, there are grand-master rated players, there are supercomputers designed to beat the masters... so let's introduce a super-queen piece that can move like a queen AND a knight and has a one-time rez ability (you try to take the queen and it just comes back in its starting spot). You think that will be a popular game?
Is the Star Trek 3d chess a popular game? Is the Star Wars version, whatever-that-was with the holographic rancor, popular? I'm not seeing anyone regularly playing these modified versions of chess. Haven't heard of any grand-masters. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1134
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:31:17 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I still want to have Eidolon battleship.
That is so OG, it isn't even in the dev arsenal anymore.
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