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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:50:44 -
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Avvy wrote: So I'm supposed to put up with the crap you guys keep posting, not going to happen.
You would not have any issues if you did not keep opening up your mouth about stuff that you obviously have very little experience with. Just because you've been logging on to change your skill queue for 10 years does not make you a verteran of this game.
I've been playing this game since 2009 and been active and done a lot of stuff and I still very much feel like a noob. I've posted incorrect information on these forums and been corrected by characters much younger than me. When everyone in this thread is telling you that your information is at best misleading, you then need to learn to take a step back and think if your posts are actually helping the OP or not.
Avvy wrote: I don't have any interest in derailing any threads.
You in fact are derailing this thread and many others. If you want to troll go anywhere else on these forums.
This is the NC Q&A section. We should all be here to help the OP with their questions. If you are not being helpful to the OP then you need to learn to muzzle yourself.
If you have a valid question start your own thread. However this section of the forums is not for stroking your ego nor is it the place for you to pick fights to prove how right you are when literally everyone else is saying that you are wrong and lack experience.
I'm not saying that you can never post nor that you have nothing valid to add to any conversation. I'm just saying that in the NC Q&A we all need to focus on helping the OP. Not that I have never gone off topic but when I do the others here help get me and the thread back on topic. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
958
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:07:30 -
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Avvy wrote:Reading through this thread I kind of feel sorry for the op.
No wonder a lot of players don't actually post in these forums.
Seems paranoia and suspicion runs deep in this game. The OP admited that he did not play the game. Then went on to rant about how he won't play the game if the big bad goons own everything and are unstoppable.
When I pointed out to him that the propaganda that he reads and actual game play are quite different and tried to focus him on asking questions about the actual game play and not the marketing material that CCP puts out for non-players to read, he then kept trying to bring the discussion back to how some coalition that I have never heard of before is ruining the game for him that he never has played.
OP did not come here to learn about the game he came here to vent about the new stories that he read. He most likely started a trial account just to vent on the forums here. He had 3 rant type posts within about 45 minutes and has not posted here since. I'm sure he's gone back to what ever else he does or plays as he never intended to play this game in the first place.
So while I love nothing more than helping new players the OP by his own admission does not play this game and it did not seem like he intended to. So I did what I thought was best and try to re-frame the convo into something that could be useful for other new (actual) players that are reading this section looking for insight into what null sec life is actually like. |
erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
370
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:26:49 -
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Hofhadalos wrote: What I would like to do is be a part of a smaller corporation that owns some space in Null-Sec, and engages in minor skirmishes with neighbors.
I see unoccupied systems in Delve or Cloud ring at the moment. Quite anumber of them, actually. I am not null dweller but I have heard, that new troll ceptor thing with entosis link make maintaining of large territory very time / force consuming. That is where your chance is comming. On the other hand... Ever concidered living in worm holes?
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
234
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:27:14 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote: Just because you've been logging on to change your skill queue for 10 years does not make you a verteran of this game.
You can't help yourself can you, you always have to keep pushing. You just portray yourself as a bit of a troll.
It's only this time, I'm just playing skill queue online for two main reasons, one I'm no longer interested in PvE here, that was apparent when I started playing this time around. The other because most of my time is spent in another MMO, although that other MMO started crashing on me, but I've now heard of a fix, which I'll be trying later.
The only reason I'm here now is because I did a 6 months sub.
So who knows might even get back down into null before the end, after all got 1.4 billion isk still to burn.
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Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
186
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:39:12 -
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Avvy wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote: Just because you've been logging on to change your skill queue for 10 years does not make you a verteran of this game.
You can't help yourself can you, you always have to keep pushing. You just portray yourself as a bit of a troll. It's only this time, I'm just playing skill queue online for two main reasons, one I'm no longer interested in PvE here, that was apparent when I started playing this time around.
But you're apparently terrified to PvP, so you spend your time playing Skill Queue Online and trolling the forums. Honestly I don't know why anyone keeps responding to you (including myself)
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:40:16 -
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Avvy wrote:
You can't help yourself can you,
You are the one who can't help himself.
For the last time this thread is not about you. Get back on topic or stop posting. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
234
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:50:46 -
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5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Maybe some of you guys should think about what you're saying before calling others a troll.
Plus you say I'm trying to derail this thread but it's you pushing it that way.
But one of us has to stop, so I shall. |
Kurja Nikuvo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.11.26 13:18:54 -
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Hofhadalos wrote:I recently started playing a few days ago, and I've been hearing a few conflicting opinions regarding the state of Null-Sec. From some places I hear that the Imperium is basically a superpower with no one that can challenge it, and in other places I hear that it's just slander spread by people that just don't like the Imperium, or more specifically Goonswarm.
So I'm wondering, just how much of that is true and what isn't?
I just came back so I'm not totally back up to speed yet, but my understanding is that Goons are the new BoB. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
190
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Posted - 2015.11.26 13:22:26 -
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Kurja Nikuvo wrote:Hofhadalos wrote:I recently started playing a few days ago, and I've been hearing a few conflicting opinions regarding the state of Null-Sec. From some places I hear that the Imperium is basically a superpower with no one that can challenge it, and in other places I hear that it's just slander spread by people that just don't like the Imperium, or more specifically Goonswarm.
So I'm wondering, just how much of that is true and what isn't? I just came back so I'm not totally back up to speed yet, but my understanding is that Goons are the new BoB.
This isn't Reddit; it's the New Citizens forum. If you want to talk about politics there's General Discussion.
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Cherri Minoa
IronPig Sev3rance
134
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Posted - 2015.11.26 13:31:44 -
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erg cz wrote:Hofhadalos wrote: What I would like to do is be a part of a smaller corporation that owns some space in Null-Sec, and engages in minor skirmishes with neighbors.
I see unoccupied systems in Delve or Cloud ring at the moment. Quite anumber of them, actually. I am not null dweller but I have heard, that new troll ceptor thing with entosis link make maintaining of large territory very time / force consuming. That is where your chance is comming. On the other hand... Ever concidered living in worm holes?
They actually nerfed the troll ceptors so you can't fit an entosis link on it now, but the principle is the same.
The idea of FozzieSov was to favour groups who actively occupied and worked their space, while making large unoccupied tracts difficult to defend. I am still not convinced how much it achieved. The main activity after introduction was in areas like Provi that are heavily populated, and for good reason - that is where you get fights, and indeed much fun was had by all parties. Empty systems tend to be empty for a reason, and I am not aware of any rush by smaller alliances to take advantage of FozzieSov to occupy them.
Maybe things have worked out differently in other areas of null-sec.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Kurja Nikuvo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.11.26 13:46:50 -
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Avvy wrote:I was there when destroyers and battlecruisers where made racial. I was there when the only ships were T1 frigates and cruisers. You're both newbs. Now can you please stop the e-peen measuring in newbie QA?
Avvy wrote:I actually didn't think the Goons where that good for the game once, but I've definitely changed my opinion on that one. I'm the opposite. I used to think they were good for the game when they were a bunch of crazy newbies in frigates taking on null powers and when Mittens was doing good work on the CSM and such. Now I think they're BoB 2: Electric Boogaloo and Mittens' sugar daddies. They became what they hated. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. |
Kurja Nikuvo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.11.26 13:51:51 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:This isn't Reddit; it's the New Citizens forum. If you want to talk about politics there's General Discussion.
I was answering the question. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
191
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Posted - 2015.11.26 14:04:06 -
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Kurja Nikuvo wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:This isn't Reddit; it's the New Citizens forum. If you want to talk about politics there's General Discussion.
I was answering the question.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6185536#post6185536
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
131
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Posted - 2015.11.26 14:27:19 -
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Kurja Nikuvo wrote:Trudeaux Margaret wrote:This isn't Reddit; it's the New Citizens forum. If you want to talk about politics there's General Discussion.
I was answering the question.
It's tempting to compare Goons to BoB and there is certainly a degree of truth there. In PH we generally say that the PH/Goons story is just a classic Goons/BoB story, except we are Goons and Goons are BoB. Partly true and partly spin. For example - BoB was aggressively expansionist. Goons are not - they occasionally take space for something to do, but often abandon it as soon as the op is complete - where BoB worked hard on gobbling up as much of the map as they possibly could. Goons and their pets also have a much stronger internal culture than BoB ever did (which is basically the reason they are still here and BoB isn't, when you get right down to it.)
It's good to be as objective as possible in NCQA. For example - saying Goons are like BoB isn't objectively true. Saying that Goons and the rest of the Imperium are a lot of filthy, filthy carebears - now that one is objectively true since they kill more NPCs than anyone else. The statistics don't lie.
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Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
191
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Posted - 2015.11.26 15:32:09 -
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Syeed Ameer Ali wrote: It's good to be as objective as possible in NCQA. For example - saying Goons are like BoB isn't objectively true. Saying that Goons and the rest of the Imperium are a lot of filthy, filthy carebears - now that one is objectively true since they kill more NPCs than anyone else. The statistics don't lie.
Actually, if you keep track of the "most active systems" on Dotlan (which tracks NPCs killed), you'll see that the Russians out in the Dronelands have Goons/Imperium beat by a significant margin. There is some crazy-assed carebearing going on out that way, all the time. I don't know how they do it and all the pvp they do as well.
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Sitting Bull Lakota
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.11.26 22:26:08 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote:Syeed Ameer Ali wrote: It's good to be as objective as possible in NCQA. For example - saying Goons are like BoB isn't objectively true. Saying that Goons and the rest of the Imperium are a lot of filthy, filthy carebears - now that one is objectively true since they kill more NPCs than anyone else. The statistics don't lie.
Actually, if you keep track of the "most active systems" on Dotlan (which tracks NPCs killed), you'll see that the Russians out in the Dronelands have Goons/Imperium beat by a significant margin. There is some crazy-assed carebearing going on out that way, all the time. I don't know how they do it and all the pvp they do as well. It's all that space vodka they mine. Keeps their wallets full and their faces flushed.
Let me answer OP's premise "Does the blue donut exist?" with a question of my own: "Since when was CFC at odds with Rus?"
Do we all recall when CFCRus dominated N3PL awhile back? If CFC is at odds with Rus, I wonder what would happen if N3 and PL decide this is a great time to take another whack at Mittens' empire in space.
To be clear, I don't know what is going on in 0.0. Frankly, I believe unless you are privvy to the board meetings of CFC, N3, PL, The Great Brewski Empire, etc. you really don't know what is going on in 0.0 either. All told, it's always a good idea to find some like minded guys and set up your own alliance/coalition in 0.0, right? |
Arkuro
Deep Structure. The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.11.27 01:43:38 -
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Im taking time from my mining and shooting rats to tell you that Nullsec is a fun and safe place to raise your eve family. |
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