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Raya Su Rollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:12:03 -
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This thread comes both as a request to CCP and as a response to "CCP - End Highsec Incursions" thread.
Personally, I think the system is OK "as is". However, If CCP ever want to reduce the ISK facet, they can simply nerf the first 3 sources of isk by 5% or 10%. ALL 3, not just 1 of them. If Eve's economy really need some help with the ISK Sinks vs ISK faceuts balance, I have no problem seing my profits cut by 10% or simply pay real money for the subscription.
However, be carefull with the "Double standard". If you want to nerf a specific isk faucet, which is the 3rd ingame, why not simply nerf the 1st one ? Or the 2nd one ? The answer is simple: The OP of the thread and those supporting him are trying to use a double standard and ask CCP to nerf what THEY don't like, not what's fair.
If CCP decided to nerf ALL the income from ALL the isk faucets, wonder if they ( the creator and supporters of CCP - End Highsec Incursions" thread.) would agree. I'm sure they won't and start crying even more about how the Evil CCP nerf this and that and remind everyone about the "Eve is dying" meme that's around for years. I am highlighting this just to show you the hypocrisy of such players. Personally, if CCP decides to nerf EVERYTHING even by, let's say 10%, if it helps the game's economy, I'd still support it !
In conclusion, if the game needs help, we should ALL support it and suffer the consequences, not just a fraction of eve's population. |
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The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:20:01 -
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:23:32 -
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THE 3RD ISK FAUCET IN THE GAME IS INCURSIONS WHICH MAKES HALF THE AMOUNT OF ISK AS THE WHOLE OF NULLSEC WHILE ONLY HAVING 1.5% OF THE PLAYER NUMBERS.
NULLSEC NEEDS INCOME TO FUNCTION WITH SHIP LOSSES, AND GENERAL LIVING, HIGHSEC INCURSIONS ARE RUN TO PLEX ACCOUNTS THAT IS ALL WHILE SUFFERING NO LOSSES.
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:34:58 -
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Lan Wang wrote:THE 3RD ISK FAUCET IN THE GAME IS INCURSIONS WHICH MAKES HALF THE AMOUNT OF ISK AS THE WHOLE OF NULLSEC WHILE ONLY HAVING 1.5% OF THE PLAYER NUMBERS.
NULLSEC NEEDS INCOME TO FUNCTION WITH SHIP LOSSES, AND GENERAL LIVING, HIGHSEC INCURSIONS ARE RUN TO PLEX ACCOUNTS THAT IS ALL WHILE SUFFERING NO LOSSES. Caps so people know who is important.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:36:50 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Lan Wang wrote:THE 3RD ISK FAUCET IN THE GAME IS INCURSIONS WHICH MAKES HALF THE AMOUNT OF ISK AS THE WHOLE OF NULLSEC WHILE ONLY HAVING 1.5% OF THE PLAYER NUMBERS.
NULLSEC NEEDS INCOME TO FUNCTION WITH SHIP LOSSES, AND GENERAL LIVING, HIGHSEC INCURSIONS ARE RUN TO PLEX ACCOUNTS THAT IS ALL WHILE SUFFERING NO LOSSES. Caps so people know who is important.
the bigger the text the more importanter
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:44:30 -
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Raya Su Rollard wrote:However, be carefull with the "Double standard". If you want to nerf a specific isk faucet, which is the 3rd ingame, why not simply nerf the 1st one ? Or the 2nd one ? The answer is simple: The OP of the thread and those supporting him are trying to use a double standard and ask CCP to nerf what THEY don't like, not what's fair. Actually, it's because the 3rd one has only a fraction of the participants of the 1st and 2nd ones. Sure you can understand what that means right? The income/person rate of incursions is incredibly high compared to any other PvE activity. You think it's "OK as is" because you are gaining from it, that doesn't mean it's right. Personally, I think if you want to make incursion level income you should have to be out of concord protection. The amount of income can stay, but you should have to be in lowsec or nullsec.
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Robert Warner
Back Door Burglars The Otherworld
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Posted - 2015.11.25 10:48:13 -
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Obvious troll is rather obvious, dear boy!
Also IB4L. Boo-yah!! |
Raya Su Rollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:14:14 -
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Troll-posting will only get you reported, so please stop it.
@Lucas Kell - I understand and i agree. However, moon-goo in 0.0 pays extremely well too and people are asking CCP to nerf it for years, claiming that the blue donut and current PVP stagnation is related to that, more specifically that alliances are cashing in the huge profits from the moons, but instead of using the ISK for SRP Programs, they chose to go blue with each other, thus no need for blowing ships. Shouldn't that be removed or nerfed too, based on the same principle ? The profitable moons are being help by a very small fraction of people and they generate huge profits...
What i keep seeing is: 0.0 players protecting their 0.0 content and income. You want to impose, by crying at ccp, your OWN playstile even in the space where you don't have sov, that's hilarious.
On the other hand, I'd have no problems at all if incursions would get nerfed. What I'm saying is they should nerf other income sources too, to balance the isk faucet/sink even better ! For example: - remove or nerf moon-goo , based on your idea that huge profits should not be gained by a very small fraction of the game - nerf 0.0 bounties so botters won't be inclined to rent space and bot 24/7 with semi-afk ishtars, carriers or supers - nerf mining, so high-sec miners won't be inclined to bot either ( it's been a mining bot for years out there ) - and soooo on.
Basically, we can find a reson to nerf everything, if we really search for one. The only VALID concern would be to reduce the isk faucets and/or increase isk sinks to keep a healthy economy. Everything else, like nerfing only a specific activity just because you're jealous or it doesn't match your playstile is pure hypocrisy |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:53:17 -
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this thread isnt going to go anywhere, its just a repeat of the "end highsec incursions" thread, everything else has been balanced so dont think your op incursions wont feel the nerf bat pretty soon.
reported for redundancy
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:05:41 -
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There will always be double standards, because most people tend to put their own personal agendas/interests first.
But this thread is likely to go nowhere. |
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:53:33 -
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Raya Su Rollard wrote:Troll-posting will only get you reported, so please stop it.
You have trolled and I have reported, thank you and have a nice day
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:02:04 -
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Quote: 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
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ISD Max Trix
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