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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:01:15 -
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On November 25th we have deployed an update to the beta launcher. If you haven't heard about this new EVE Launcher before, please check out the dev blog.
If you have already installed the beta launcher it should update itself automatically - otherwise you can install the latest version: * Windows (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.exe) * Mac (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.dmg)
The update has the following changes, fixes and additions: - Better handling of file errors, offering to fix permissions - Added network diagnostics to help track down network issues - Added support for translations (text is not fully translated yet) - Added an option to minimize to tray - Prevent multiple instances of the launcher - Added an option to force the client to use DX9 - Improved the logging window - Server list and process views are now a standalone windows - Settings folders for clients no longer have the server ip numbers in their name - Fixed issue with download everything stalling
Changes to the UI include: - New design - Server status information updates more frequently - MOTD icon button and notifications moved to upper right corner - Added patch notes link - Rearranged buttons based on user feedback - EULA buttons no longer disappear under ads
We welcome you to check out this new beta EVE Launcher and let us know what you think!
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
805
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:02:07 -
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Known issues: - Pasting into the password field doesn't work on the Mac
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Lisa Nardieu
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
2
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:13:54 -
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CCP Phantom wrote: Changes to the UI include: - Added patch notes link
thank you so much for this. |
Kronossan
Bellum Esca
53
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:17:43 -
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Just saw the update come in as I opened the launcher, very nice.
Perhaps make the background image a bit darker to create more contrast between it and the account selection and banner ads? |
Lady Aesir
Ghost Recon Inc
20
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:21:05 -
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What can I say.
WOW the new launcher looks very nice a lot of improvements. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
918
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:33:45 -
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2 items
1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity 2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size. |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
82
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:01:11 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity 2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size.
Is it possible to white-list the launcher in the Norton application? We have already contacted Norton about white-listing the launcher, but that may only have worked for that particular version of the launcher.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:02:12 -
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A few things came to mind:
- you have so much space, yet the central panel and especially the buttons are so small, the checkboxes in the older version where much better than those switches, same goes for the "launch triangle". its just too small on a highres monitor.
- it'd be far more convenient to plug the "Logout" button within the "launchbox" on the bottom right side and put the "add account" button in the middle or bottom left side.
- while the green bar is nice, make it bigger, i barely noticed it. yet you could also put a green "running" in the line of the respective running client. again, more than half of the space in the window is wasted.
- furthermore, maybe plug the ad-banners on top and move the newsfeed to the bottom (left, middle) as it overlaps with the "bug report" button on its current position.
- for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
- a (more visible?) option for clearing the client cache would be great,as its currently implemented in the regular launcher
thanks for working on it, i like it way more than the regular launcher! |
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Decayed Orbit
119
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:02:45 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity
well updating and checking files needs disk activity...
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Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Decayed Orbit
119
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:05:50 -
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the little eve icon menu is fun. |
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Lair Osen
107
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:18:11 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size.
You know you can resize it right? |
Maja Chou
Ausweichcorp 3
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:20:39 -
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i would think put the MOTD button in the new sidebar left and not next to the close button would be better or even move it to the same Position and type as Feedback and Bug Report is
we have to import client settings again from our old user ordner ( in my case some junktion link ordner for multiple clients) because we cant divide the collected settings from old beta launcher ordner to all Clients sometime i would like to see the launcher do this without human help
1. Can we now install the launcher in an ordnerstructure like F:\Eve & Co\Launcher next to our Eve installation in F:\Eve & Co\Eve Online (and shared Cache and Tools)
2. Can we pls move settings ordner from user to an place we like? (like my Structure above)
3. I dont know who think a touch GUI is allways better^^ but i DONT like the new "Switches" to show witch client is selceted for multistart or even not. I think just checkboxes was realy fine for this and show all we needet (yea maybee oldscool design but it work well and who Play Eve on a Touchscreen?)
4. BUT i would like to see maybee 4 little checkboxes there in a square to set up multiple "Play selected" configurations same checkbox next to the Play Selected button could switch between the choosen one there
5.Mousover of Settings wheel could bring up the Information witch Profile is selected without have to click to see it. i understand there is not enough space to show profilename there (i would preferr)
6.last one: whats the function of the launcher butten in sidebar ?
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Diamond Hunter01
Great White North Productions Alternate Allegiance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:25:11 -
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I'll tell you I am getting fed up of resetting everything each time you patch. |
Snooowi
Snowlodoto
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:25:14 -
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Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher?
Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? |
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CCP Avalon
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:27:15 -
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Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool.
The following information should help in recovering these settings.
For Windows users (7 and up):
* Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
CCP Avalon // Web Developer // Team Webster // @ccp_avalon
Twitch: CCP_Avalon
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Snooowi
Snowlodoto
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:37:12 -
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CCP Avalon wrote: This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool.
The following information should help in recovering these settings.
For Windows users (7 and up):
* Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Worked, thanks!
Maybe they didn't copy over correctly because I had clients running when the update happened or something? |
Valerius Marcus
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:55:23 -
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I really like this for the most part, it's pretty visually pleasing. However there are just a couple of things that are pretty visually jarring.
I love the background image. Very dynamic and action-y, but having my account selection right suddenly 'appear' right in the middle of the Rifter while your eyes sweep the image is kinda sudden. Any chance for some transparency on the account list or some other way to smooth that?
And while I understand the need to sell stuff to people who are already your customers, the two current advertisements, the Amarr "Veil of Victory" and the "Preparation is Half the Victory" are really such a stark contrast. It gives the impression of someone slapping some stickers onto a screen.
I'm no design guy, but a suggestion is to make the launcher like a view screen or status display. The adds can be integrated into little windows resembling mini or status displays, and some sort of smoothing or new font or such on the account list to better enjoy that awesome view. The links on the left for Account, Support, Settings, and Patch Notes could be styled into 'activation buttons' of some sort
Major kudos for the patch notes link as well. I always hit that when I noticed my client was pulling an update.
I hope this feedback is useful. |
Sgt Ocker
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
777
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:03:20 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher Thank you.
Are these changes (moving settings folders) likely to persist after the next launcher update, or will this process need to be repeated?
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Why can't CCP see the obvious - Large dominating groups are bad for Eve.
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Makhar
Independent Miners Guild Care Factor
14
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:27:17 -
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Suggestion / feature request:
- possible to have an 'autolaunch' checkbox? So we don't need to wait for it to finish patching or whatever just tick the box and then once the client is 'ready' it will launch itself?
_ I tried real-life once. -áThe graphics suck._
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Stefan Silviu
Knowledge is Money - Money is Power
15
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:37:18 -
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FFS ALL SETTINGS LOST |
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CCP Avalon
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:43:58 -
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Stefan Silviu wrote: FFS ALL SETTINGS LOST
Instructions on how to recover the client settings: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6187370#post6187370
CCP Avalon // Web Developer // Team Webster // @ccp_avalon
Twitch: CCP_Avalon
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Richard TheLordOfDance
New Eden Special Operations Force
15
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:57:31 -
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I like it!
Can we speed up the server drop down animation though?
Otherwise very nice, very pretty. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2117
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:17:23 -
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Some things:
- Please move the Play button back to the right. It is also somewhat harder to hit the play button as it is not clear where it ends and where it starts. the previous Play button with the ring was by far easier and more straightforward to use. When I hover some 10 px next to the button, it is highlighted in blue (indicating that I am in the hitbox), but clicking it does not start the game. Instead, I need to move my mouse directly over the arrow.
- Please make the multi launch a check box again and not this skeuomorphic switch.
- There is no tooltip when you hover your mouse over the gear button to access settings.
- You missing a way to access the settings folder in your Manage Settings window, because your latest version of the launcher wiped all settings again.
- Clicking again on the notification button (the speech bubble in the to right corner) does not close opened notifications, which is very unintuitive.
- And this one is without please, because it is a completely stupid move: Get rid of that faint line below the accounts to indicate whether an account is running. This is already ridiculous and hard to read and understand in the new probe scanning window, it is even worse here. The previous indication with the full row being highlighted is so much better, easier to read and understand and to distinguish. Whoever is responsible for that line stuff should be send to the Reykjavik uni to get some lessons in proper UI design.
- Another thing is the placement of the elements. Why is there so much wasted space around the client list box? Instead, the window should be divided into 2 parts: Left side - the list of the clients logged in. Right side - Ads, Notifications, other rubbish. 2 clearly distinguishable areas that do not interfere with each other and that use the available room a lot more efficiently than in your version. Right now, there's no system behind it. The list, had I more than my limited number of chars, would just create a scrollbar or vanish under the ads at the bottom. Then there are ads at the bottom, but notifications and other ad-like content on the left, smashed onto the list box. Instead, the window should look like this. Before someone complains about it, notifications overlapping the ads is intentional and also already happens right now when there are more than 2 notifications, so that's no big deal.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Cherri Minoa
IronPig Sev3rance
133
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:33:27 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Thanks for the fix.
Just to add, if like me you have a lot of settings folders (backups etc) then once you have restarted the launcher you will need to select which profile to use. For me it is the one that begins c_program_files_(x86)_ it may vary depending on system.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:38:20 -
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General look is better, but I prefer the old account selection part. The new font is too bold, the switches don't really make sense, the old play button was better.
Also server selection animation is t o o o s s s l l o o o o o w w w |
McBarnacle
Black Scorpions Inc Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:59:12 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Thanks for that Avalon, worked perfectly. I have let my corp know as well for anyone having similar issues.
McB
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Sheldor Frye
Fratres Miliciae
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Posted - 2015.11.25 17:52:27 -
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Just one thing, please include the Eve time somwhere on the client. Would help to keep track when those events and streams start without hurting my brain too much. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2117
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:50:16 -
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For some reason, I just managed to open the twitch page in the Launcher window. I know that the launcher is just a chromium browser window, but is this intentional? The first time, I just left clicked somewhere on the notification, the second time I right clicked the URL'd link and used "Navigate to..."; left clicking the URL'd text opens the link normally in my real browser.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:08:02 -
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two more things:
- it infuriates me to no end that the icon in the taskbar shows a "loading bar" after launching a client. the bar doesnt move or disappears after closing a client though. see here
- everytime a new launcher version is deployed, i get a black screen after launching an additional client. it loads bulkdata and all that jazz, but afterwards theres just the small download circle in the bottom left circling, and thats it. no matter how often you relaunch other clients, still same picture. doesnt matter either which account is launched at first, all subsequent launched accounts dont work. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
805
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:50:12 -
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Chino Saisima wrote:two more things: - it infuriates me to no end that the icon in the taskbar shows a "loading bar" after launching a client. the bar doesnt move or disappears after closing a client though. see here- everytime a new launcher version is deployed, i get a black screen after launching an additional client. it loads bulkdata and all that jazz, but afterwards theres just the small download circle in the bottom left circling, and thats it. no matter how often you relaunch other clients, still same picture. doesnt matter either which account is launched at first, all subsequent launched accounts dont work. First, take a deep breath and relax - life's too short to get infuriated by the little things.
The launcher is probably still downloading binaries and/or resources for any test servers you may have selected. By default, Singularity and Duality are enabled - you can turn them off in Settings.
The problem with the black screen - is that only after updating? If you restart the launcher, can you then launch multiple clients?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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