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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:49:00 -
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Crime fighters fight crime...
freedom fighters fight freedom?
Samirol has slipped into a coma forever. R.I.P |
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:59:00 -
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Freedom fighters fight for freedom,
crime fighters fight for crime?
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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:00:00 -
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im confused too
Samirol has slipped into a coma forever. R.I.P |
Cole Blacksole
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Posted - 2007.01.30 09:39:00 -
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The fight for freedom IS the fight against crime!!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.30 09:52:00 -
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All that these self-styled freedom fighters really want is the freedom to commit crime.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.30 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake All that these self-styled freedom fighters really want is the freedom to commit crime.
Many things considered to be crimes by the Empire are regarded as virtues in the civilized world -- freeing slaves, hard liquor and Gallente "educational videos" among them.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.01.30 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Kovsky
Originally by: Rodj Blake All that these self-styled freedom fighters really want is the freedom to commit crime.
Many things considered to be crimes by the Empire are regarded as virtues in the civilized world -- freeing slaves, hard liquor and Gallente "educational videos" among them.
NO good can come of these terrorist organisations other than their dismemberment and submission to the Amarr faith. The origin sin, the crime of the uprising of 23216, is carried upon the shoulders of every matari who does not recognise the undeniable truth of the Amarr revelation.
No 'good' deed of theirs is recognised until their debt is paid in full. Until then they are counted as worth less than the dead, souless and disease-ridden.
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Ostos Marek
House of Marek
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ostos Marek on 30/01/2007 20:39:57 These "Freedom Fighter" terrorists must be dealt with.
Many lives: Amarr, Minmatar, and Ammatar are being laid to waste in battles that are fought not for freedom, but for control.
The "Freedom Fighters" want control of space and trade, and are using freeing slaves as their "Just Cause" cover. The slaves that they free are only subject to lies which, in turn, recruit these newly freed slaves into serving the "Freedom Fighters" as militia. This perpetuates this circle of strife.
We have slaves in order to educate and guide them on the path to salvation, and make the universe a much better place. Concord must enforce sanctions upon these rebels before more lives are lost or tainted by lies.
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Pezzle
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:56:00 -
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They are not freedom fighters, they are just Rebels. They act without mandate from the Matari governing bodies. Preying upon Empire shipping concerns makes them pirates.
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Mr Vapor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:49:00 -
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I see Amarrian puppets everywhere doing the same song and dance for years. I swear, they have to teach these guys this crap in school. Probably in some sort of speech class.
"Terrorists....rabble....heretics....rabble....demeaning sex acts...rabble...."
I'm sure it all relates to being pious and never getting laid. I mean seriously, have you looked at any of the Amarrians pilot pictures lately? They're all constipated. I'm serious, go have a look. All they need is a good laxative and they'll lighten up. Maybe that should be our next terroristic mission. Deploy laxative in the Amarrian water supply.
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Ostos Marek
House of Marek
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Posted - 2007.01.31 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Vapor
They're all constipated. I'm serious, go have a look. All they need is a good laxative and they'll lighten up. Maybe that should be our next terroristic mission. Deploy laxative in the Amarrian water supply.
I will make sure the bio-waste caused by such a terrorist attack is deposited upon your home town, my misguided brother. When you dabble with laxatives and people's fecal matter, don't be suprised that you end up covered in it.
These rebels talk constantly of terrorist attacks. Even ones that involve laxatives (which can be dangerous due to dehydration and allergies). Concord obviously will not step up and police these terrorists themselves. Something must be done.
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Letheeth Kayl
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Faatina Lebass on 34/02/2005 25:79:85
Originally by: Ostos Marek
The "Freedom Fighters" want control of space and trade, and are using freeing slaves as their "Just Cause" cover. The slaves that they free are only subject to lies which, in turn, recruit these newly freed slaves into serving the "Freedom Fighters" as militia. This perpetuates this circle of strife.
You misunderstand Mr. Marek. The Freedom Fighters don't want control of space and trade. Sadly, to carry out the Just Cause of freeing others, they must have control over some small portions of space and even trade so that they have the strength and money to continue their fighting. I'm sure if you stopped fighting them, they'd not appear so territorial. One does fight like a cornered animal for house and home, wherever and whatever that may be.
Lastly, the day the last fimbulwinter recruit has a metalic slug put through his (or her) wortheless head will be a joyous day for all of Humanity. Genocide is not the answer. Perhaps you could become productive memebers of humanity again, if only you focused your anger on those that deserve it.
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Ostos Marek
House of Marek
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Posted - 2007.01.31 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ostos Marek on 31/01/2007 18:41:46
Originally by: Letheeth Kayl Edited by: Faatina Lebass on 34/02/2005 25:79:85 You misunderstand Mr. Marek. The Freedom Fighters don't want control of space and trade. Sadly, to carry out the Just Cause of freeing others, they must have control over some small portions of space and even trade so that they have the strength and money to continue their fighting. I'm sure if you stopped fighting them, they'd not appear so territorial. One does fight like a cornered animal for house and home, wherever and whatever that may be.
Lastly, the day the last fimbulwinter recruit has a metalic slug put through his (or her) wortheless head will be a joyous day for all of Humanity. Genocide is not the answer. Perhaps you could become productive memebers of humanity again, if only you focused your anger on those that deserve it.
I, all too well, understand fighting for house and home. I also understand prospective slaves fighting for their freedom.
I personally have never harmed a Fimbulwinter member, although if they interfere within the Ammatar Mandate, I will deal with them without mercy. The mandate is my home, and I will defend it and it's laws to the end.
As far as slaves not having freedom, at least for the House of Marek, compared to other corporations and the empire, our slaves are treated much better and educated with valuable skills as well as religious teachings.
*pauses a moment*
Lets get right down to it, shall we? On one side, slavery is viewed as an abomination and the usurping of free will. On the other side, slavery is viewed as a method of enlightenment and the road to salvation. One could argue both points until their blue in the face, this is true. Lets get the facts down though.
1. many MANY slaves end up serving the empire their whole life. (although one could argue that this is through force.)
2. Many slaves enjoy their slave life more than their former life. Many have luxuries they never had, are provided for by their Masters, and are educated more than they would have been in their previous life. Their quality of life increases. You may say that the "cage" is just made to look better. We look at slaves as lost brothers and use slavery as a means to save them.
You have prisons for your criminals. Many are rehabilitated in prison, but not nearly the ratio of rehabilitation as there is within our slave community. Think of slavery as a prison for those that have commited crimes against God. Through Slavery they learn their misdeeds and are given the chance for forgiveness and a life of devotion. (especially slaves going through the House of Mareks S.E.P. *Slave Education Program* are showing a much better rehabilitation than previous slave programs)
3. We have Minmatars voluntarily enlisting into the S.E.P. program now, hearing how wonderful it is, and they are provided for. The S.E.P. program does not use Vitoc nor any other form of chemical / brainwashing techniques in education of slaves.
4. You openly attack stations and bases, killing many innocents, in order to assert control and "free" slaves. Amarr and Ammatar alike capture slaves with minimal lives lost as possible.
I perform no genocide, nor do any of the Nobles/Employees/Slaves of the House of Marek. Our goal is to unite fellow Ammatars (which we consider any Minmatar who has come to see the light of God) and help our lost brethren find Salvation.
We fight for your souls eternal salvation and you fight for territory, ISK, freedom (to bolster your army), and lust for power. Which is more just?
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Wanoah
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.31 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ostos Marek
You openly attack stations and bases, killing many innocents, in order to assert control and "free" slaves. Amarr and Ammatar alike capture slaves with minimal lives lost as possible.
You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.
Incidentally, I wonder if the Starkmanir feel enlightened now? Oh, that's right, they can't; because the genocidal Amarrians killed them all. |
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