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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:16:26 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I have never heard of a corp that is so loose... In the big bad Megadonut I am a member of, I merely need to ask, to be allowed to put up a POS or ten. Really?
Yeah, why wouldn't I? There are moons aplenty. A friend and I had a few private moongoo mining/production facilities going until recently. We took them down by now, because they weren't really making much profit anymore, but there you go. Definitely possible.
Just take a peek outside of your little box. I suspect things may not be quite as you think they are. |
Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:18:50 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Kieron VonDeux wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Neuntausend wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:I have never heard of a corp that is so loose... In the big bad Megadonut I am a member of, I merely need to ask, to be allowed to put up a POS or ten. Really? In the pirate alliances I've been in you just need to ask to put up POSes or POCOs. You may need to tell them where it is going if you putting it in an alt Corp, so your alliance doesn't put it on its list of future targets. lowsec is so empty... do they even exist anymore?
No there is nothing there and no reason for you to go looking, so just stay out. |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:21:01 -
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Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41478
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:24:19 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point? I know why you are pointing it out. I don't think you have a point.
If you want to play alone and have a Citadel, then form a 1 man corp and put one up.
Nothing stops you from associating with other people if that's what you also want to do, but have your assets yourself.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5754
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:26:09 -
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ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons.
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
23254
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:26:34 -
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Oh my, it really has a been a good long while since weve had a good old fashioned 'Grrrrr Goons!!!' thread!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:27:23 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons.
But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik. |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:28:39 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solo and small gang PvP is totally dead in this game. You cant reasonibly access null sec PvE or Mining
As somebody who does nothing but small gang PvP in nullsec (and some solo PvP when I'm feeling brave, plus of course some ISK-making activities to fund my small gang PvP) and as someone who flies with a bunch of pilots who mine and PvE in nullsec, I am happy to tell you that you're quite mistaken.
Also - plenty of the pilots I fly with in nullsec have personal POSes set up in the area, with absolutely zero restrictions imposed by the corp/alliance. (Well, beyond 'no AWOXing' of course.) I'm certain that once the appropriately sized Citadels are introduced to replace POSes, many of those pilots will transition to personal Citadels.
(And just to be clear - yes, these are POSes that are indivudally purchased, deployed, maintained and defended. They might nor might not be defended by the group depending on various factors.)
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:29:44 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point?
You want to be able to deploy and configure a Citadel in a player Corp without needing any roles.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5754
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:30:13 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons. But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik.
Correct.
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Sapheni
Black Moon Mining
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:34:26 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point?
Not really. If you're a solo player why would you want a citadel? It's a 600m isk liability with none of the flexibility of a POS (i.e. the ability to unanchor, move around, re-purpose). And unless I missed something, they haven't announced how they're handling POSs.
Of course... if they don't come up with a flexible alternative then I may have to eat my words... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41478
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:37:05 -
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Sapheni wrote:And unless I missed something, they haven't announced how they're handling POSs. We do know that POSs will be phased out over time, but we don't know the details yet of the transition.
Given the current moon mining mechanics, there will likely need to be either a dedicated structure for moon mining separate from Citadels and/or significant changes to moon mining before POSs can be removed.
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:37:14 -
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Sapheni wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point? Not really. If you're a solo player why would you want a citadel? It's a 600m isk liability with none of the flexibility of a POS (i.e. the ability to unanchor, move around, re-purpose). And unless I missed something, they haven't announced how they're handling POSs. Of course... if they don't come up with a flexible alternative then I may have to eat my words...
My understanding is that you can unanchor Citadels in order to move them elsewhere and redo the fittings and rigs to suit other needs whenever you need to.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
544
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:40:59 -
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Why would a single lonely player even want a station sized citadel all for himself? Sounds very sad to me... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41478
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:44:23 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Why would a single lonely player even want a station sized citadel all for himself? Same reason individual POSs can be very useful I would imagine.
Plus, a Citadel will be more secure in terms of asset storage than a POS is, except in J-space.
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
37
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:47:15 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Kieron VonDeux wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons. But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik. Correct. why does it need to be this way? For a sandbox game there isn't many choices... |
Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:48:46 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station.
INCORRECT
You just need to have enough firepower to defend them from those who may frown upon it. |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
37
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:49:19 -
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Sapheni wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point? Not really. If you're a solo player why would you want a citadel? It's a 600m isk liability with none of the flexibility of a POS (i.e. the ability to unanchor, move around, re-purpose). And unless I missed something, they haven't announced how they're handling POSs. Of course... if they don't come up with a flexible alternative then I may have to eat my words... because you can make money with them |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
37
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:50:09 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. INCORRECTYou just need to have enough firepower to defend them from those who may frown upon it. not if they wont let you. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41478
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:57:44 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Kieron VonDeux wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons. But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik. Correct. why does it need to be this way? For a sandbox game there isn't many choices... Because under the current mechanics, large structures are a Corporation level asset and need to be that way in order to be destroyable in highsec.
If you can think of a better mechanic, then start a thread in F&I Discussion.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.10 21:02:07 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:not if they wont let you.
Why don't you understand this: Absolutely nobody but yourself can effectively keep you from putting up a POS on a free moon.
If you are in a corp that doesn't let you put one up, that's an issue of yourself, who apparently doesn't want to leave, and your corp, who apparently doesn't want you to have a pos. That's not a flaw in the game. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.12.10 22:35:19 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons. But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik. Erm ... so make a corp?
It takes maybe 10 minutes to train Corporation Management 1 on an alt. |
Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2015.12.10 22:39:36 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Kieron VonDeux wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:ahhh.
The new structures won't require to be anchored at moons. But you still need to be in a player Corp with roles to launch and configure afaik. Erm ... so make a corp? It takes maybe 10 minutes to train Corporation Management 1 on an alt.
Thank you Captain obvious .
Been there done that, passed on the tee shirt. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9652
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Posted - 2015.12.10 22:42:12 -
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How do I shot CITADEL
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:26:41 -
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What the OP is saying (from my understanding) is...
He wants to be in a large active pvp/pve corp because of the content it offers.
He also wants to put up a POS and do ' stuff ' with it.
His problem is the corp will not give him the star base config role due to security concerns so he cant manage his own POS. The corps concern is legit cause then a awoxer could unanchor all the corps POSs.
Yes he could have someone with roles anchor it for him but perhaps there is something he wants to do that requires the config role. (im not that familar with roles... does moon mining / ship building / gas reactions require star base config ??)
Its a legit point. However with the role changes coming in citadels maybe this wont be an issue anymore. maybe you can do all the industry things in POSs without requiring a anchor/unanchor role.
OP.. an alternative is to get an industry alt and put it in a one man corp and have it run the POS. See if the Corp your main belongs to would mind you setting up this POS in their space. They shoudnt mind.. if they do find another corp.
Should be problem solved.
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where is eve placed... not in cave..."-á | zoonr-Korsairs |-á QFT !
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Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
2171
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:54:46 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:*snip* a suspect timer *snip* Good compromise. Key difference is you are supposed to play with others, not be forced to have others use you as a pawn so they can play. Also, they could be given criminal timers so that you can defend it without penalty. There could be a type of criminal timer that concord ignores. The ability for station ownership to be business/ profession would be cool. However, it would require corporations and alliances to release their absolute control over individual players. sounds like a suspect timer
and join a corp/alliance that doesn't abuse the members. in Idle I could do pretty much anything I wanted, and pretty much the same in signal cartel, although I haven't ever asked about the structure thing.
Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Does nobody understand why I am pointing this out or think I have a point?
I think you kinda have a point, but most of it seems to be personally imposed limitations
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
439
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:10:51 -
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helana Tsero wrote:OP.. an alternative is to get an industry alt and put it in a one man corp and have it run the POS. See if the Corp your main belongs to would mind you setting up this POS in their space. They shoudnt mind.. if they do find another corp.
Should be problem solved.
Yep - make alt corp, set standings blue. Join wars as required. Problem solved. |
Azure Feixing
Arcane Futuristics Elite Demons Playground
1
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:16:11 -
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No. If all the average joes had access to this stuff it would ruin the game. You must work your way up the latter to be able to do these kinds of things.
If there were 6 citadels in each system, each with a regional market, the materials would get too spread out. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
439
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:19:44 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:No. If all the average joes had access to this stuff it would ruin the game. You must work your way up the latter to be able to do these kinds of things.
If there were 6 citadels in each system, each with a regional market, the materials would get too spread out.
Dude, it doesn't have anything to do with being an average joe. All it takes to build a POS right now is a week old character, a few hundred million ISK and a free moon, and I'd be surprised if it was much different with the smaller citadels. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17233
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:22:29 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:You're in a corp of 26 people.
Does that make you part of the 1%? You can launch for corp use. It can be locked down for your own use.
I have no objection to these structures requiring you to be part of a player corporation to have. Anyone can found a corporation. See the problem is that removes you from PvP and a lot of PvE too. Also, I am speaking as someone who can be part of an alliance, but doesn't want to because of the lack of control over your own destiny. The problem lies with everything that is tied to corporations really is tied to mega coalitions because the mega coalitions control the alliances and their corperations. To say that EVE is good because of the dependence on groups is nieve. The game has the lowest player counts in over 8 years. Clearly 10s of thousands of people(the majority) disagree.
Listen, I know it's tempting -don't we all- but none of the bottles under the sink are good to drink, inhale or snort from.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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