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Solonius Rex
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Posted - 2015.12.18 14:23:01 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole.
I dont understand.
The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too.
The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel.
I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:14:29 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole. I dont understand. The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too. The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel. I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. Because I want to be part of a corporation for other things... I have said this 20 times now. Read the thread. I shouldn't have to pick and choose. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41997
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:41:48 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole. I dont understand. The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too. The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel. I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. Because I want to be part of a corporation for other things... I have said this 20 times now. Read the thread. I shouldn't have to pick and choose. Everything in the game requires you to pick and choose.
It's not that you don't want to pick and choose, because you already do that anyway.
It's just that you want to whinge because the choices as currently being developed don't exactly suit what you feel your entitled to and this thread is the result.
It's totally possible to be in a Corp and own your own Citadel and if you want to give yourself more flexibility, to create a one-man Corp with an alt and own the Citadel with that Corp while remaining in your existing Corp.
That's also been explained to you several times over, but you continue to cry like a child rather than just solving your problem yourself.
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DaReaper
Net 7
2690
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:57:23 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Azure Feixing wrote:No. If all the average joes had access to this stuff it would ruin the game. You must work your way up the latter to be able to do these kinds of things.
Not if people don't want to let you climb the ladder. This game is dying and this elitist attitude is why, yet CCP continues to develop the game with this attitude. Like I said before this new system would be a GREAT way to start breaking the trend that is killing the game. Do you have data that supports this claim? Keep in mind that correlation does not necessarily indicate causation ... gonna need more than "Eve is dying. Subs are down because CCP is bad." eve- offline Nobody has data because a company has the data that makes money off it and spins it to look good... sooooo That is unreasonable to only think I am credible with CCP's top secret data.
FFS. eve offline doens;t show you sub data, just the ammount of people logged in. you cna not look at the ammount of people on and go 'see eve is dying!' as there are a number of factors that go into that. Stop using eve offline as a source.
a better way is to show that ccp lost money last year (they did, about 10%) but china is rising (they are)
seriously hate when people use eve-offline as some 'proof' eve is dying
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DaReaper
Net 7
2690
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:59:23 -
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i think i answered this already, there will be no personal citadels. They are all corp controled. However, due to changes in the access levels that are coming, your director or ceo can set you as an owners of a single citadel and restrict access or make it so you cna adjust access. ofcourse at any time the ceo and director can remove your access.
if you want your own cit, you need to make your own corp.
/thread
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:51:09 -
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DaReaper wrote:i think i answered this already, there will be no personal citadels. They are all corp controled. However, due to changes in the access levels that are coming, your director or ceo can set you as an owners of a single citadel and restrict access or make it so you cna adjust access. ofcourse at any time the ceo and director can remove your access.
if you want your own cit, you need to make your own corp.
/thread This is BS. Fix it CCP |
Leeluvv
Polarized
52
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:01:27 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:DaReaper wrote:i think i answered this already, there will be no personal citadels. They are all corp controled. However, due to changes in the access levels that are coming, your director or ceo can set you as an owners of a single citadel and restrict access or make it so you cna adjust access. ofcourse at any time the ceo and director can remove your access.
if you want your own cit, you need to make your own corp.
/thread This is BS. Fix it CCP
This is great. Leave it as it is, CCP.
See, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean you are correct. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41997
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:57:33 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:I agree, actually. An individual can potentially run a small POS by themselves, but Citidels are far out of reach even for the most determined.
I think a smaller, weaker line should be developed for individual usage, the obivious downside would be they are just that much less resistance to attacks, and can hold less in the way of ships and less powerful defenses.
I would buy a small Citidel in a heart beat if one exsisted. Mediums are aimed at individuals and small groups.
Material costs for a Medium Citadel are 650-700 million, for the rigs 60-70 million and we don't know yet for the various modules.
So assuming you buy a BPC for about 100 million and build yourself, the cost of a Medium with rigs and modules will be about a PLEX. Add a few modules and then only fuel when needed and the price should be well within the reach of individuals.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2803
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Posted - 2015.12.18 23:08:48 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote: Mediums are aimed at individuals and small groups.
Material costs for a Medium Citadel are 650-700 million, for the rigs 60-70 million and we don't know yet for the various modules.
So assuming you buy a BPC for about 100 million and build yourself, the cost of a Medium with rigs and modules will be about a PLEX. Add a few modules and then only fuel when needed and the price should be well within the reach of individuals.
Fuel is only consumed when a station service is used. Not simply for a Citadel floating in space. And we have the costs for most of the modules also since CCP released build requirements. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
41997
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Posted - 2015.12.18 23:12:40 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote: Mediums are aimed at individuals and small groups.
Material costs for a Medium Citadel are 650-700 million, for the rigs 60-70 million and we don't know yet for the various modules.
So assuming you buy a BPC for about 100 million and build yourself, the cost of a Medium with rigs and modules will be about a PLEX. Add a few modules and then only fuel when needed and the price should be well within the reach of individuals.
Fuel is only consumed when a station service is used. Not simply for a Citadel floating in space. And we have the costs for most of the modules also since CCP released build requirements. Yes, that's what I meant in relation to fuel. Not like a POS currently.
Thanks for the info on the module costs. I missed that. Will go looking.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6878
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Posted - 2015.12.19 00:35:43 -
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Leeluvv wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:DaReaper wrote:i think i answered this already, there will be no personal citadels. They are all corp controled. However, due to changes in the access levels that are coming, your director or ceo can set you as an owners of a single citadel and restrict access or make it so you cna adjust access. ofcourse at any time the ceo and director can remove your access.
if you want your own cit, you need to make your own corp.
/thread This is BS. Fix it CCP This is great. Leave it as it is, CCP. See, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean you are correct. Altcorps are the best.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Solonius Rex
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:01:59 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole. I dont understand. The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too. The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel. I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. Because I want to be part of a corporation for other things... I have said this 20 times now. Read the thread. I shouldn't have to pick and choose.
Dont most, if not all games, force you to pick and choose whether you will be a tank, DPS or Healer?
And yet, what youre saying is akin to "I want to be an amazing tank, DPS and Healer on the same character, at the same time". Sorry, but that would break the game and make it boring.
Games have drawbacks for a reason. You cant have everything on one character, at the same time. You cant be everything on one character, at the same time. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27888
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:40:16 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole. I dont understand. The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too. The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel. I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. Because I want to be part of a corporation for other things... I have said this 20 times now. Read the thread. I shouldn't have to pick and choose. Dont most, if not all games, force you to pick and choose whether you will be a tank, DPS or Healer? And yet, what youre saying is akin to "I want to be an amazing tank, DPS and Healer on the same character, at the same time". Sorry, but that would break the game and make it boring. Games have drawbacks for a reason. You cant have everything on one character, at the same time. You cant be everything on one character, at the same time. One can have all the necesswry skills on a single character and switch between ships, for the other ones.
Just thought I'd add that tidbit...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Solonius Rex
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:46:22 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Will the average joe be able to own a citadel or will we have to have proof from a mega coalition? Right now you have to have permission from your corporation, alliance, coalition or mega coalition to have a POS or Station. I ask because CCP needs to stop giving a handful of people opportunity's and fun. I am tired of 1% of the population controlling the game. This is a great chance for CCP to give power to the playerbase as a whole. I dont understand. The average joe can make a corporation in under an hour with only 1 million isk. And if he can afford making the citadel, which will most likely be in the hundreds of millions, he can own one. Infact, he can go into lowsec and set up one too. The fact that he may not be able to defend it by himself, isnt CCPs problem, and doesnt change the fact that an average joe can still own a citadel. I dont know how fun it would be to have to defend a pos alone, but you dont need to be in the 1% to own a citadel. Because I want to be part of a corporation for other things... I have said this 20 times now. Read the thread. I shouldn't have to pick and choose. Dont most, if not all games, force you to pick and choose whether you will be a tank, DPS or Healer? And yet, what youre saying is akin to "I want to be an amazing tank, DPS and Healer on the same character, at the same time". Sorry, but that would break the game and make it boring. Games have drawbacks for a reason. You cant have everything on one character, at the same time. You cant be everything on one character, at the same time. One can have all the necesswry skills on a single character and switch between ships, for the other ones. Just thought I'd add that tidbit...
but you cant train perfectly all 5 for everything. |
Mister Ripley
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:50:44 -
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Solecist Project wrote:One can have all the necesswry skills on a single character and switch between ships, for the other ones.
Just thought I'd add that tidbit... True that. Ships are the EVE equivalent of Tank, Healer, Rouge, etc.. EVE is actually much more user friendly regarding "class change". You can switch back and forth as you like by changing ships, whereas other games force you to change the character and everything else like inventory, money/gold, and so on.
If I understand OP correctly he wants a Citadel for free without risk like wardecs that also prints him money out of thin air. I don't know why this thread wasn't closed after 5 minutes...
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6878
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Posted - 2015.12.19 04:37:17 -
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Mister Ripley wrote:If I understand OP correctly he wants a Citadel for free without risk like wardecs that also prints him money out of thin air. I don't know why this thread wasn't closed after 5 minutes... Because a lot of people want their risk-free isk printer out of thin air.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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DaReaper
Net 7
2696
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Posted - 2015.12.19 05:22:00 -
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ISD can we close this thread? his question is answered and we are beating a dead horse
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.19 06:24:32 -
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DaReaper wrote:ISD can we close this thread? his question is answered and we are beating a dead horse Uh no this issue is not resolved. I am not the only one who is requesting. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27903
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Posted - 2015.12.19 08:34:41 -
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Your personal wish is not an issue, though. Reaper is right, though I wonder if he reported...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
2807
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Posted - 2015.12.19 09:37:32 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: Uh no this issue is not resolved. I am not the only one who is requesting.
Then put your issues in the actual discussion threads on citadels? We've answered all the information that can be atm, and feedback here will do literally nothing to help since it is in the wrong place. |
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Varyah
I am Forever of the Stars
25
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Posted - 2015.12.19 10:39:27 -
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DaReaper wrote:ISD can we close this thread? his question is answered and we are beating a dead horse
Please don't.
This thread is hilarious. Even if OP is a troll, pure satire.
Wondering why CCP hasn't been sued by a player finding it difficult to access certain content. Brilliant. |
Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.19 10:45:32 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Your personal wish is not an issue, though. Reaper is right, though I wonder if he reported...
I repeat, I have said that it is not just MY wish. Stop cherry picking thus thread. I will not rest until a Dev has seen this. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27943
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:21:55 -
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Of course it's not just your wish. I'm sure there are a few hundred more of you egomaniacs out there.
Doesn't change that it's a personal wish of yours. Doesn't change that you care only about yourself. Doesn't change that you use the bullshit "others want it to" argument for your own good.
You'll have no use for a citadel anyway. It will be made sure that you won't have one for too long.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.19 11:42:48 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Of course it's not just your wish. I'm sure there are a few hundred more of you egomaniacs out there.
Doesn't change that it's a personal wish of yours. Doesn't change that you care only about yourself. Doesn't change that you use the bullshit "others want it to" argument for your own good.
You'll have no use for a citadel anyway. It will be made sure that you won't have one for too long.
its called market fees? The biggest egomanic in eve is the best one...
oh and I reported you for profanity. The fact that you feel like you need to swear to get your point across means I'm right.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15555
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Posted - 2015.12.19 12:50:38 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: oh and I reported you for profanity.
If the filter lets it's through, there isn't much you can do about it.
Heck, the person who showed me that bullshit is a permitted word was a sitting CSM at the time.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kieron VonDeux
94
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Posted - 2015.12.19 13:02:38 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Your personal wish is not an issue, though. Reaper is right, though I wonder if he reported...
I repeat, I have said that it is not just MY wish. Stop cherry picking this thread. I will not rest until a Dev has seen this.
I heard a rumor by the water cooler that a Dev saw this like a week ago, but has since ended up in the hospital for risum multum-itis.
I sent flowers.
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Brigadine Ferathine
KATERI'S MENAHJE
40
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Posted - 2015.12.19 13:10:19 -
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Kieron VonDeux wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solecist Project wrote: Your personal wish is not an issue, though. Reaper is right, though I wonder if he reported...
I repeat, I have said that it is not just MY wish. Stop cherry picking this thread. I will not rest until a Dev has seen this. I heard a rumor by the water cooler that a Dev saw this like a week ago, but has since ended up in the hospital for risum multum-itis. I sent flowers. Thanks, I love flowers. |
Kieron VonDeux
94
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Posted - 2015.12.19 13:45:35 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Kieron VonDeux wrote:I sent flowers.
Thanks, I love flowers.
"Que Lumbergh's standard tone",... Umm Yeah, I think you missed something there.... |
Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2015.12.19 13:46:15 -
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There's multiplayer content in a massively multiplayer game?! This is an outrage! |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28037
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Posted - 2015.12.19 19:33:12 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Of course it's not just your wish. I'm sure there are a few hundred more of you egomaniacs out there.
Doesn't change that it's a personal wish of yours. Doesn't change that you care only about yourself. Doesn't change that you use the bullshit "others want it to" argument for your own good.
You'll have no use for a citadel anyway. It will be made sure that you won't have one for too long.
its called market fees? The biggest egomanic in eve is the best one... oh and I reported you for profanity. The fact that you feel like you need to swear to get your point across means I'm right. No, it doesn't. But this shows how cold hearted, manipulative and calculating you are.
A full blown carebear. This reminds me. I do wonder if it's okay to call out a psychopath, considering how many people throw around "sociopath" like it's nothing anyway.
Well, fine. Good luck with this thread. :)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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