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Liara Iwara
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.11 15:46:19 -
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I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.
But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.
What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer? |
Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
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Posted - 2015.12.11 16:44:28 -
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Get in a frigate and cruise faction warfare space, learn to locate potential targets via d-scan and engage any solo frigs you think you can take. You'll lose some ships but don't get discouraged.
Alternatively you can join a militia and do the same thing without getting a negative security status, though it will lower your standings with the opposing factions. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
589
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Posted - 2015.12.11 20:56:35 -
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get 20 scram kite frigates to a border system in FW zone, then go blow stuff up until you have lost them all.
Frapsing yourself and reviewing for mistakes, watching and reading everything pvp related you can get your hands on, and find people better at pvp than you to discuss with.
Black Fox Marauders is Recruiting
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Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.11 23:08:39 -
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Liara Iwara wrote:I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.
But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.
What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer? So in order to learn to PvP you want to do the hardest kind of PvP with nobody to teach you? Okaaaaay. You want tips, here are my tips. Join a corp. |
ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach. Outnumbered.
531
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Posted - 2015.12.12 01:59:00 -
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Convo me the next time im online and ill do my best to give you some pointers.
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.12.12 02:59:10 -
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You get into PVP by shooting at people. |
Mr Click
Mr Click Corp
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Posted - 2015.12.12 07:01:24 -
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I have really got into solo pvp last few months. (don't play often enough for a corp). Leant a ton of stuff from you tube, try these channels for solo pvpv eve is easy, eveproguides, iddoEvE |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2015.12.12 10:54:50 -
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Bombers Bar It's a channel. Check it out.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.13 09:15:02 -
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Liara Iwara wrote:I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.
But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.
What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer?
Try RvB! Great community and u will get a ton of help from both sides. We are a big family no matter what side u are on. Great way to experience gang pvp and solo pvp. Usually alot easier to find fights than the rest of the eve universe and if u for some reason cant find fights, we are very close to FW space if u like that sort of thing. We also go on lowsec roams more or less every day. |
Dealz Orlinard
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.13 11:58:39 -
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Everyone has given great tips for getting into solo pvp and, like a couple others, I agree that you should join a corp like Brave Newbies or Red Vs Blue. Once you feel pretty comfortable shooting at people, and have a decent knowledge base, only then would I tackle solo pvp. It is still going to be difficult but you will have built a bit of a foundation that will lead to your occasional success and much less frustration. Whenever you do decide to get into solo, the best way is to buy a bunch of T1 frigates and go fight stuff.
Knowledge of the game, especially the capabilities and possible fittings of each ship is the majority of solo pvp in eve, so read and watch tons of videos. Like others have mentioned, Eveiseasy, EveProguides, and IddoEve are great youtubers. Dabbler is another good one. Also, The Altruist blog by Azual Skoll is a must read. In particular, the know your enemy portion. One last thing, try to message some of the people you fight and ask for tips or suggestions on how you could have done better, you may be surprised how helpful most of the solo pvpers are. Hope to see you out there.
Here are some links:
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBUJG6Bfnqc https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYMmAPEe-kFE4ZsG0OH_NCt3AAUc-eCKL https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/Abbadon2110/featured |
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.12.13 18:20:27 -
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Brave are horrible and their alliance/s are falling apart, nobody should join Brave. |
Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:32:58 -
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To be fair, they seem to have found their Place in FW. Apart from a few selfserving individuals, sov was never intended to be a lasting or realistic thing and now they are doing what they should have been doing all along. That Said, the vast majority of Brave members Will never aspire to be anything more than F1 monkeys. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.12.14 06:31:08 -
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Both of their alliances together managed to fail, twice to defend the only valuable customs offices in the game from our 20 man highsec PVP alliance. They're about as bad as bad gets. |
Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.14 10:25:45 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Both of their alliances together managed to fail, twice to defend the only valuable customs offices in the game from our 20 man highsec PVP alliance. They're about as bad as bad gets.
We didnt try, they are not Worth it =ƒÿå=ƒÿå
RVB is about killing eachother and have fun, not to resort to local pvp on forums =ƒÿÅ |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:50:11 -
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Except you did try, pretty much continuously until Rooney handed them over to Brave, who also tried with a tengu/eagle fleet, failed both times without killing anything and sustaining losses and gave up when it became apparent they couldn't actually stop us from taking them.
Considering that RVB tried to prevent us taking them to the extent of not allying red into our war with blue so we couldn't shoot reds POCOs and then transferred them to Brave, who imidiately tried and failed to defend them with tengu/eagle fleets without a single kill and billions in losses to show for it the "we didn't want those anyway" is not exactly convincing. Moreso when you take into account the finances (or more accurately the lack thereof) of both Brave and RVB.
The face saving rhetoric is tired, put it away. |
Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.14 22:04:38 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Except you did try, pretty much continuously until Rooney handed them over to Brave, who also tried with a tengu/eagle fleet, failed both times without killing anything and sustaining losses and gave up when it became apparent they couldn't actually stop us from taking them.
Considering that RVB tried to prevent us taking them to the extent of not allying red into our war with blue so we couldn't shoot reds POCOs and later transferring them to Brave, who then imidiately tried and failed to defend them with tengu/eagle fleets without a single kill and billions in losses to show for it the "we didn't want those anyway" is not exactly convincing. Moreso when you take into account the finances (or more accurately the lack thereof) of both Brave and RVB.
The face saving rhetoric is tired, put it away.
Remember, Brave is Brave. Rvb is rvb. I remember a few small fleets going out but most of us didnt really care and didnt even go. Anyway we dont really miss them either. Also u gotta remember, we dont really play the greafing/local spam game. Cant speak for everyone ofc but I dare say that to the majority of us its just some distant thing that happened and ud be surprisedhow many didnt even know we had pocos. Its RvB after all, many of us got Into rvb just because defending assets is boring so we just want the gfs. Saving face is of no concern =ƒÿ¥. Im here to help the OP |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.12.15 12:42:50 -
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There was a pretty visible and massive rift between what the RVB general populace knew and cared about and what the "command" people were interested in. I'm sure the vast majority of the alliance had no involvement with the POCO empire beyond someone telling them to get into a Ferox or Caracal for some fleet at some point in time and had even less contact with the money they output, which appears to have gone almost entirely to lining the pockets of some director.
Brave were a different story, they declared defense of them a strategic operation (presumably on account of them being totally broke and needing the money) and brought a 50 man tengu/eagle fleet to try and defend them, spamming local all the while. They gave up trying after two tries where they accomplished nothing and lost a bunch of stuff for their effort. Which was very funny after all their chestbeating in their internal mails about how they were going to kick our butts.
Due to extensive spying we managed to get a pretty interesting view of what was going on with the whole thing. The big lesson to take away is that Rooney is a terrible person. |
Kethen T'val
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:41:48 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:There was a pretty visible and massive rift between what the RVB general populace knew and cared about and what the "command" people were interested in. I'm sure the vast majority of the alliance had no involvement with the POCO empire beyond someone telling them to get into a Ferox or Caracal for some fleet at some point in time and had even less contact with the money they output, which appears to have gone almost entirely to lining the pockets of some director.
Brave were a different story, they declared defense of them a strategic operation (presumably on account of them being totally broke and needing the money) and brought a 50 man tengu/eagle fleet to try and defend them, spamming local all the while. They gave up trying after two tries where they accomplished nothing and lost a bunch of stuff for their effort. Which was very funny after all their chestbeating in their internal mails about how they were going to kick our butts.
Due to extensive spying we managed to get a pretty interesting view of what was going on with the whole thing. The big lesson to take away is that Rooney is a terrible person.
Who i like and who I dont like Ill keep to myself. Same with what I knew about where what isk went where. I just gotta say that the general feeling I have is that Im really proud of the RvB core. We are indeed a family uniqe in the Eve universe and we are now even less tied to some stupid politics. And we are having even more fun. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3708
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Posted - 2015.12.15 16:34:48 -
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It's difficult to express how much that particular individual stood out from basically anyone I've ever seen in EVE as an absolute dreg. Most people have some kind of standard that they adhere to and levels to which they won't stoop, but that guy just plain doesn't. The mind blowing thing was the incessant lying, to everyone, he lied continuously to the RVB membership, he lied to Brave, he even lied to CODE. and Marmite when he went groveling to them for help. Almost everything he typed in corp chat, said in mumble or mailed to alliance was either an outright lie or a lie of omission. He was also terribly eager to jump ship at the first sight of trouble while also trying to desperately cling to influence. A self-interested, dishonest, cowardly, incompetent blowhard, it was just thoroughly contemptible.
The worst part is we still see him in Nourvukaiken local because it's next to Tama. It is nice to see him relegated to being a rank and file frigate peon though. All his importance evaporated about as quickly as his loyalty.
Having people like that trying to use RVB as their personal path to glory can't have been fun. |
William Weatherwax
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.12.15 23:19:41 -
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Every time you lost a fight contact the person who killed you and ask for advice. Most of the time those guys are incredibly helpful. |
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.15 23:37:29 -
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My $0.02: EVE PvP For Newbies!
I strongly recommend RvB as an early training ground.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Ares Desideratus
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
309
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Posted - 2015.12.16 16:12:01 -
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Best way to learn is by doing. Research pvp while you are doing it and you will learn in no time.
Check out some Eve youtubers. Eve Is Easy and Chessur's channel is a good place to research different tactics for solo and small gang.
Also make sure you learn how to EFT
Don't just join a corp; play the game for fun and make real friends who are cool to fly with, that's better than just joining a corp and being a pawn in someone else's game. |
Fourteen Maken
Omega Industry Inc. The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.22 17:43:16 -
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learn to love Pyfa and EFT. For me probably the most satisfying part of solo pvp is designing a fit and tactics that push a ship to it's limit and then testing it out on the server. Before you undock you should know what you're looking for, know what ships you want to avoid, know where you want to be vs different ships, know the likely speed/range/dps/tank of other ships and know which ones you have a good chance of holding range against - this is mostly learned by spending more time on pyfa and reading the killboards of good pvpers than in game.
You'll obviously start with T1 frigs or destroyers so the easiest thing to do is learn how all the other t1 frigs are likely to be fit, figure out which ones you can fight and how, just avoid everything else until you learn about other ships. Also join FW, and try get into fleets when you can. Fleet/gang pvp will teach you a lot of the things you need to know for solo but with the added safety of numbers and listening to people who know what they're doing, and in faction war you will see open fleets come up in the militia chat from time to time.
Support a fairer loyalty point market for faction war:
The sinews of war; infinite money.
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Miles Winter
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.04 06:19:12 -
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Fit something out on the singularity server and fight people there without risk of actually losing stuff.
I'd trained up to use a zealot on an older account, but before I actually bought the thing and started using the fit I made, I went on sisi and had some gud fites with people.
It was incredibly informative - learned what I needed to improve on my fit, and what I could and couldn't fight against, and surprised myself with how effective I actually was when it was literally my first real PVP ever.
And I did it without losing all my stuff in the process, so it was very forgiving.
Now I fly in RvB and blow stuff up with them. |
Lunoten rm
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.27 05:33:16 -
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My 2 new moves solo pvp in 4fw missions:
Prophecy 4 fw missions solo pvp 2
Prophecy solo pvp 3 - Recons collection |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
370
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Posted - 2016.03.02 03:07:12 -
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Join a large, PvP oriented player run alliance. Doesn't matter which really, most offer similar benefits.
Any large sov null bloc will offer things like an SRP, doctrines and fittings designed by experienced players, solid FC's, free skill books, often hand out free ships, and have bunches of fleets in the Finder that you can join any time of the day.
Since you want to PvP, you are already doing the only thing any sov alliance will ask of you- show up and die gloriously on occasion. And you'll get to do it in a fleet of friends. When you aren't doing PvP, you can pursue whatever PvE you like and do it in upgraded null sec space. Or don't play at all....without the NEED to PvE just to keep ships in your hangar, you can spend your Eve time just doing PvP answering Rage Pings. I don't have to grind PvE for hours and then still come running for a two hour defense fleet on top of that.
If you want to pew- why not get paid for it? Our Logi guys profit from losses. Aspiring FC's are handed entire fleets worth of ships to whelp just for trying to step up as a leader. We run instructional classes just like E-Uni, both on a bloc and alliance level. Doctrine ships that are very expensive are usually subsidized for purchase (and of course SRP'd after that).
I cannot think of an easier way to get into PvP on whatever scale you want. Solo, small gang, giant TiDi inducing node melters.....we do it all. |
Pomagre
The Grey Eagles A Few Brave Men
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Posted - 2016.03.02 03:53:04 -
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Join the in game channel Spectre Fleet
Fleets daily, no BS (well mayb a lil sometimes) NPSI pvp action. |
pushdogg
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.04 00:01:33 -
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Awesome vids.
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