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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:32:55 -
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The CSM is in horrible state.
- Members leak
- They represent big null powerblocks who game the election with spy candidates (Ali Aras, Corbexx...)
- They openly feud to the point where Endie called another member a Nazi war criminal
- They lost the trust of CCP
- Players barely vote since it's clear the CSM isn't representing them
- The final straw was member Sion suggesting them to get control over which player can talk to CCP by special forums where CSM decides who can post to CCP and what
The ultimate problem: EVE is a competitive (PvP) game, where groups of players fight each other. Each player is biased for his playstyle and make suggestions that are directly conflicting with the interests of other player groups: for example miners want harder ganking while gankers want easier. Being well-informed and experienced in the game makes no one a good advisor to CCP, it makes him a dangerous snake who will influence devs to cater to his group at the expense of other groups. My thoughts are about helping highsec groups and groups like MoA while directly hurting Goons. For me as player, that's completely fair. For me as CSM member, that's a clear abuse of my position as I must serve the whole playerbase which include Goons. The only way for me to be unbiased is to keep my mouth shut. Same for everyone else.
So I call all players to boycott the CSMXI election! This obviously means not to vote for me either! My candidacy is only to be able to speak in CSM election forums, participate in CSM candidate interviews and such. If enough trolls vote for me to be elected, I solemnly swear to be completely inactive on the CSMXI until removed and will never offer my biased crap to CCP.
My idea is that if enough people take my advice and vote for nobody, CSM will be shut down and CCP will only listen to devs. While they will have their shortcomings and mistakes (who doesn't), at least they will be unbiased and genuinely interested in the long-term survival of the game.
Vote for the end of CSM! Vote for nobody!
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Lauresh Thellere
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
55
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Posted - 2015.12.18 05:53:20 -
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Political candidate campaigning on the platform of the system is corrupt and needs to die in a fire... what could possibly go wrong. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Angry Dragons Psychotic Tendencies.
743
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Posted - 2015.12.18 06:13:27 -
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So much yes. Yes yes yes.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6970
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Posted - 2015.12.18 07:41:36 -
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The CSM may have it's faults but it's certainly better to have it than to not. Either way, this is not the right venue for you to voice your hate, this is for people who are actually interested in campaigning and becoming a CSM member which it is obvious you are not.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Konrad Kane
142
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Posted - 2015.12.18 09:42:52 -
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Are you worried that being on the CSM will mean you'll have less time for blogging?
--- please have less time for blogging |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
831
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Posted - 2015.12.18 11:29:07 -
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How do your potential voters know that you will not be like the politicians who say "We are for reducing/removing the EU parliament", then pitch up and enjoy all the freebies once elected?
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
480
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Posted - 2015.12.18 14:44:54 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:The CSM may have it's faults but it's certainly better to have it than to not. I disagree and I believe I'm not alone. Let the people decide on this topic. If the voter turnout increases from last year, they decided against me. If it decreases, they with me. If they vote me in, they are with me and they are trolls.
Rhivre wrote:How do your potential voters know that you will not be like the politicians who say "We are for reducing/removing the EU parliament", then pitch up and enjoy all the freebies once elected? They don't have to trust me. I'm not asking anyone to vote for me, I asked them to not vote. I explicitly called those who vote for me "trolls".
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Eyrun Mangeiri
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2015.12.18 18:43:30 -
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I fully support this.
I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
323
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:08:01 -
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Gevlon Goblin is an honorable man with pure intentions and has my full endorsement for CSM XI.
On twitter @siggonK
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Cindare
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:12:33 -
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Siobhan MacLeary
Hole Violence Goonswarm Federation
221
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:37:56 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Grr CSM Grr Goons Grr CCP Grr Grr Grr
I have already unvoted.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave
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bigbillthaboss3
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:44:43 -
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I, forum representative of the Wildly Innappropriate corporation, too hereby endorse Gevlon Goblin of the Science and Trade Institute for CSM XI. |
Vanilla Mooses
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:47:40 -
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Gevlon's blog is a bastion of sanity and reason in a insane universe, and he has my full support for CSM. Just do the math, people! |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
771
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:24:06 -
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I support Gevlon's message. To do your part for a goon-free CSM, vote gevlon or don't vote at all. |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
483
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Posted - 2015.12.18 20:32:18 -
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Sion Kumitomo wrote:Gevlon Goblin is an honorable man with pure intentions and has my full endorsement for CSM XI. Thank you dear sir! You were my inspiration to run for CSM, as the hard work of you and your good friend and alliance mate Endie made my campaign necessary. If CSM members were like Sugar Kyle, I wouldn't have a chance.
I'm looking forward to work with both of you and with Xenuria. I'm sure we'll have wonderful time together drinking the beers that CCP Falcon will invite us for.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
334
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:19:15 -
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Rhivre wrote:How do your potential voters know that you will not be like the politicians who say "We are for reducing/removing the EU parliament", then pitch up and enjoy all the freebies once elected? Having gotten a feel for Gevlon over the past few years of reading his blog, if this were the case he is a master of deception the Mittani could only hope and dream to be. However, I doubt that. Gevlon has been pretty open and strightforward, so I doubt he would be your typical politician.
Edit: that said: I think I might pitch into this as well. |
Globby
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
299
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:28:53 -
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I for one can't wait for a xenuria x gevlon goblin csm |
MuayThai
Panic Stations.
0
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Posted - 2015.12.18 22:58:37 -
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they could always vote for me, I don't know -insert word- about the game. in fact, I would always ask CCP for 1.4 quintillion isk, or something equivalent to 3^1.7trillion isk.
http://bcomics.wordpress.com
I don't understand you, should I turn it uP?
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Hanura H'arasch
Tears and Trading Inc.
0
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Posted - 2015.12.18 23:01:41 -
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I shall vote for you, not only to troll but also to show up in the "definitely against CSM" category. |
Jay Amazingness
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.12.19 00:55:11 -
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I endorse this product and/or service |
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Dreiden Kisada
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:14:50 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:
They openly feud to the point where Endie called another member a Nazi war criminal
You mean the one who actually is a neo nazi? Are you confusing the two terms? |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6976
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:06:23 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:I disagree and I believe I'm not alone. Let the people decide on this topic. If the voter turnout increases from last year, they decided against me. If it decreases, they with me. If they vote me in, they are with me and they are trolls. The people can decide by not voting. You're post here is not for a campaign, you have made it clear you will not serve on the CSM, and thus this entire post is not fit for this section of the forum. You clearly have absolutely nothing of value to add to this community.
You want the CSM to be destroyed for what? Out of some strange idea that you think CCP will then stop listening to players? They most certainly won't, and if anything you'll give more power to the groups you hate. It's also a joke to think that you getting votes will do anything to destroy the CSM in the first place. Once again this is a badly thought out plan with no hope of success, and all you are doing here is clogging up a serious forum with your shockingly irrational anger filled rubbish.
ISDs should just move this to GD where it belongs. The CSM campaigns forum is for CSM campaigns, not for whining about the existence of the CSM.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:20:57 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:I disagree and I believe I'm not alone. Let the people decide on this topic. If the voter turnout increases from last year, they decided against me. If it decreases, they with me. If they vote me in, they are with me and they are trolls. The people can decide by not voting. You're post here is not for a campaign, you have made it clear you will not serve on the CSM, and thus this entire post is not fit for this section of the forum. You clearly have absolutely nothing of value to add to this community. You want the CSM to be destroyed for what? Out of some strange idea that you think CCP will then stop listening to players? They most certainly won't, and if anything you'll give more power to the groups you hate. It's also a joke to think that you getting votes will do anything to destroy the CSM in the first place. Once again this is a badly thought out plan with no hope of success, and all you are doing here is clogging up a serious forum with your shockingly irrational anger filled rubbish. ISDs should just move this to GD where it belongs. The CSM campaigns forum is for CSM campaigns, not for whining about the existence of the CSM.
Oh Luccuy darling get with the program please. Your missing the point so hard and thats just sad. Take your lead from your glorious leaders and endorse the post. THEY understand so trust them.
Will gank for food
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6976
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:26:49 -
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Tarojan wrote:Oh Luccuy darling get with the program please. Your missing the point so hard and thats just sad. Take your lead from your glorious leaders and endorse the post. THEY understand so trust them. No I totally understand the point, they are considering this the joke it is and going along with it. I don't take my lead from them, being an individual and all, I form my own opinions, and IMHO I don't think that joke campaigns have any place in this particular forum. If this guy wants to cry about the existence of the CSM and come up with yet another crazy scheme to accomplish nothing he should do it in the sections of the forum designated for nonsense posts.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:33:06 -
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I was delighted by the Blog post, then dismayed when I read it. I think you know why, I think you have much to offer to eve online if you weren't being distracted by your (star wars quote!) "**** fool crusade". Your guides on anti ganking, on trading and on ganking I still link to relevant new people!. Your guides on how you started, early dist mission running is how I actually play this game. It's fun and I find it relaxing.
I wish the CSM was a positive institution to which you could contribute. Your ideas about a non dec high sec npc corp and how to balance this aren't something I think should be mocked, rather taken on board. I think if you were given a channel to CCP devs direct instead of only gaining attention via shock posts you would probably be able to help them improve the game if they were listening to the CSM...
Except they aren't listening. Sion and Sugar and others have made this clear. Therefore my (non)vote belongs to you.
I hereby declare all my accounts will (not) be voting for Gevlon Goblin. Let the best man (not) win.
Will gank for food
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:35:36 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Tarojan wrote:Oh Luccuy darling get with the program please. Your missing the point so hard and thats just sad. Take your lead from your glorious leaders and endorse the post. THEY understand so trust them. No I totally understand the point, they are considering this the joke it is and going along with it. I don't take my lead from them, being an individual and all, I form my own opinions, and IMHO I don't think that joke campaigns have any place in this particular forum. If this guy wants to cry about the existence of the CSM and come up with yet another crazy scheme to accomplish nothing he should do it in the sections of the forum designated for nonsense posts.
You think its a joke? Its not. https://www.themittani.com/features/csm-reform-proposal educate yourself by all means.
Will gank for food
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6976
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:48:57 -
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Right, so Sion wants more input from players that aren't on the CSM by creating focus groups. Your point is?
Yes, this campaign is a joke. Gevlon has stated that he has no intention of actually doing the job of a CSM member. This is one of his usual grabs for attention, that's all.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
196
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:54:24 -
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Point is CCP needs to reform CSM. Even if it started out as a cynical ploy to just shut us up after the greed gate riots, Its lost its power now and needs re looking at. Sion, Gevlon, CSM reps all the way back to CSM 1... they all saying the same thing man.
Maybe ya think Gevlons a joke? hey how about every single person votes just for sion and leaves every other card blank then? so he is our only rep and we send him to CCP with the platform "hey your customers think you should take customer relations seriously"?
Is that a joke?
Will gank for food
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6976
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Posted - 2015.12.19 03:47:05 -
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Tarojan wrote:Point is CCP needs to reform CSM. Even if it started out as a cynical ploy to just shut us up after the greed gate riots, Its lost its power now and needs re looking at. Sion, Gevlon, CSM reps all the way back to CSM 1... they all saying the same thing man. No, they aren't. Sion wants to keep the CSM but want it to be listened to more, with other players able to get involved through focus groups. Gevlon wants the CSM gone because he thinks without the CSM, CCP will stop listening to players and that somehow that would destroy the evil goonies. They are absolutely nothing alike.
Tarojan wrote:Maybe ya think Gevlons a joke? hey how about every single person votes just for sion and leaves every other card blank then? so he is our only rep and we send him to CCP with the platform "hey your customers think you should take customer relations seriously"? I didn't say Gevlon is a joke, I said his campaign - which he has stated himself is not a serious run at becoming a CSM member as he will not participate - is a joke. I think that we should vote for who we think will represent us well, from a selection of candidates who want to help the game. If peopel want to protest about the CSMs existence, this is not the place for it.
I'm honestly not sure how you don;t understand this.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
833
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Posted - 2015.12.19 04:06:58 -
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Tarojan wrote:Point is CCP needs to reform CSM. Even if it started out as a cynical ploy to just shut us up after the greed gate riots, Its lost its power now and needs re looking at. Sion, Gevlon, CSM reps all the way back to CSM 1... they all saying the same thing man.
Maybe ya think Gevlons a joke? hey how about every single person votes just for sion and leaves every other card blank then? so he is our only rep and we send him to CCP with the platform "hey your customers think you should take customer relations seriously"?
Is that a joke?
Gevlon has stated he will not stand.
That is what Lucas thinks is a joke.....if he was to stand on a platform of "I will push for the CSM being broken up and recreated in another form", then that would be a platform.
Xenuria is running on a reform platform, as are several others. They have actually said they will be on the CSM.
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