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Tarlton
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.30 03:59:21 -
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In the few MMO games I have played, which have all been pay to play, the players have received gifts at Christmas. I do not know whether that is done in free to play games. I believe that regardless of what they may publicly say, most appreciate them, and especially the ones that really wake up a memory, and those which are truly useful or valuable. Well, for pixel creations anyway.
There are probably an infinite number of moral lessons that could be taught and could be learned at Christmas, and I suppose disappointment is among them. I feel if that was your intent, your served it up with a strong sting. Thinking about it, and looking at the lengths you went, I personally think therein is the truth.
For the few years I have been here, there have been assorted gifts at Christmas, with some being pretty worthless, and some being quite valuable. Last year seemed particularly great. I do not recall there having ever previously been a year to compare to this one though for lack of redeeming value. Just my opinion, but honest and thoughtful nonetheless.
Honestly, I could buy quite a bit of plex monthly and sell it, and you can see that from my accounts CCP, so the isk is not really important to me. But, I have felt like Christmas was a time when you had a nice way of showing appreciation for your paying customers.
So honestly, I was disappointed when I saw that we got everything on one day, and it frankly all seems like an assortment of lumps of coal, that substantial time and energy was put into so as to make it not immediately appear to be merely a bunch of dressed up lumps of coal.
But it seems more likely the odds are you feel like you are teaching me something. I am sure you could teach me a lot. The smartest person in the world has more to learn than he yet knows, and I am not the smartest person in the world. I may be among the braver ones, since I am posting my honest feedback, rather than being a simple "yes, man". But this is the internet, and so that says little for courage. But I am truly giving you thought out feedback from the heart.
As a customer, and not one who merely paid the minimum, I really did appreciate those assortments of gifts, some of which were really nice. Maybe I am a sentimental sort, God forbid, but heck, I felt appreciated and a bit of a bond with you guys. Maybe no one else felt that. Who knows? It left this year. I guess that was a good result?
In looking at the circumstances this year, it really does look like you went out of your way to spend more time and effort to disappoint people such as myself, and why? Do you have too many loyal paying customers?
Maybe it was intended to be funny. If it was, you guys probably have had a good laugh.
I really feel sad about it. The Christmas thing was really a nice touch. I think it was a good thing myself. Pixels cost nothing, and the gifts are always given out to all subscribed at the time. There must be some deep reasoning I do not understand, but you have to make your choices, and you did.
Thanks truly for the years before. I wish more of us had expressed more appreciation for a nice touch, and perhaps thereby have avoided not experiencing it this year as well.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:04:41 -
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Tarlton wrote: In looking at the circumstances this year, it really does look like you went out of your way to spend more time and effort to disappoint people such as myself,
So it was a little gift to themselves, then.
At least... if it was me that was CCP, I'd take great joy in making your life miserable. Welcome to EVE.
Next year they should delete the inventory of everyone that whined this year.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Xert Trassien
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:06:41 -
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Wow ?? I thought the whole xmas thing was about giving yes ? not about whining coz ya didnt get somethng that you wanted ? or has the idea of xmas changed since last year ??
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:08:34 -
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Tarlton wrote:In looking at the circumstances this year, it really does look like you went out of your way to spend more time and effort to disappoint people such as myself, and why? Do you have too many loyal paying customers?
"People will leave the game if you don't do X!"
Also, did we really need another thread on this?
My lord.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3877
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:09:35 -
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I still have 18 geckos and 3 leopards left
Oh god.
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Xert Trassien
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:09:52 -
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Hahaha i like the idea Mr Epeen. Delete the inventry of all those who whine lolol Oh the tears it would bring |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
265
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:10:32 -
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@ OP, No idea what you're talking about.
At one point I wondered if you meant that you had to login on the day to receive whatever they were rather than just having a subscription active.
Probably doesn't help that I've not logged in for awhile.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
42469
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:35:02 -
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While you feel entitled to appreciation from the developers, did you take the same Christmas opportunity to show them a similar level of additional appreciation?
What did you send them?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Paranoid Loyd
7984
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:43:55 -
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"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
1181
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Posted - 2015.12.30 04:49:51 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:While you feel entitled to appreciation from the developers, did you take the same Christmas opportunity to show them a similar level of additional appreciation?
What did you send them?
15 dollars every month.... Including this month.... Plus, those that bought a PLEX, or whatever else.
We keep their revenue flowing.
Having said that, I don't too much look forward to the hand outs, so much as I enjoy seeing what kind of crazy items they come up with for us to pew pew and/or explore with.
Geckos, Gnosis, Vigil, Luxurious yacht...
It's almost like not giving out AT tournament reward ships...
Sure, you can call it entitlement, but I like to consider it "what fun did CCP bring this year." |
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
42471
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Posted - 2015.12.30 05:02:52 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:While you feel entitled to appreciation from the developers, did you take the same Christmas opportunity to show them a similar level of additional appreciation?
What did you send them? 15 dollars every month.... Including this month.... Plus, those that bought a PLEX, or whatever else. We keep their revenue flowing. Having said that, I don't too much look forward to the hand outs, so much as I enjoy seeing what kind of crazy items they come up with for us to pew pew and/or explore with. Geckos, Gnosis, Vigil, Luxurious yacht... It's almost like not giving out AT tournament reward ships... Sure, you can call it entitlement, but I like to consider it "what fun did CCP bring this year." Yes, that's why I asked what extra appreciation he gave.
Throughout the year, we meet our obligations under the EULA and so do CCP.
He feels entitled to something extra at this time of year, so I was wondering what something extra he also gave them.
My guess is none, just like the rest of us.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
15116
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Posted - 2015.12.30 06:53:19 -
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I love them little funky items!
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NovaCat13
Seymourus and Co.
89
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Posted - 2015.12.30 07:14:35 -
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Chribba wrote:I love them little funky items!
You and me both brotha |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2202
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Posted - 2015.12.30 08:16:17 -
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"Feedback" really isn't needed. We pay for access to the game. That's it. I got what I paid for this year, did you? CCP actually does a pretty decent job of keeping eve up compared to other online games.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7244
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Posted - 2015.12.30 08:18:01 -
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I have a response for this prepared, I've saved it to a word document, came up with it on the last thread like this that got locked, and a copy-paste job is really all this deserves.
"Where is my free stuff? Why haven't you given me my free stuff? I AM ENTITLED TO MORE FREE STUFF!!! Everyone else does it and EVE should be just like everyone else! Why is it that on Christmas, I'm thinking more about what I should be getting rather than what I could be giving?"
^^^^ Why CCP should never give anything for free to anyone for any reason.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
1713
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Posted - 2015.12.30 09:33:05 -
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I like Starsi.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ GòáGò¼GòªGò¼Gòú - my sandcastle
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ <=X - my yacht
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
29249
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Posted - 2015.12.30 09:38:37 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:While you feel entitled to appreciation from the developers, did you take the same Christmas opportunity to show them a similar level of additional appreciation?
What did you send them? 15 dollars every month.... Including this month.... Plus, those that bought a PLEX, or whatever else. We keep their revenue flowing. Having said that, I don't too much look forward to the hand outs, so much as I enjoy seeing what kind of crazy items they come up with for us to pew pew and/or explore with. Geckos, Gnosis, Vigil, Luxurious yacht... It's almost like not giving out AT tournament reward ships... Sure, you can call it entitlement, but I like to consider it "what fun did CCP bring this year."
Okay, so OP is your alt or someone you know. Seriously, no one writes such a long post about creaking christmas gifts. That's nonsense. They're not worth that. They're also not worth the emotional drama the OP presents. This is complete bull.
Of course the people here fall for it, they fall for the dumbest ****, possibly everything!
Guys, stop being idiots and start thinking again, can you do that for me?
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7035
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Posted - 2015.12.30 10:42:02 -
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I see where the OP is coming from though. Ignoring value, because it's not about free stuff, past years just had more interaction between CCP and the playerbase. This just felt a bit impersonal and last minute. One day you log in and there's a bunch of random stuff and some fireworks. It's out of character for CCP.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
992
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Posted - 2015.12.30 11:34:36 -
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Did all of you lambasting the OP not notice that the dev blog for the holiday trinkets said there would be more news on holiday offers the following week? News that never came?
They hinted at a main gift (a la Geckos and Leopards) but they never delivered.
It'd be one thing if they didn't say there were going to do it, but they did. If I'm entitled for wanting CCP to keep to their word, then so be it. |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
207
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Posted - 2015.12.30 12:01:42 -
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I'm more than happy with the in-joke items, they're a nice way of remembering how stupid people can be :) But why can't I carry them in my jump freighter !!!??? |
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Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
49
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Posted - 2015.12.30 12:05:00 -
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I suggested a bag of wallnuts. We all got bags of wallnuts. 9999/10 would shape EVE again.
On serious note, CCP is a team of ex-gamers which left Ultima Online when it started to swing with player-friendliness. They made EVE, which stands for "Everyone vs Everyone", the world designed to be a world of death, pain, losses and despair, with industry spewing a better rock to shatter your opponent's skull. Then you shown up, demanding useful free stuff.
If you want free stuff, go bury that Mastodon. Or, I'm sured, Chribba will be up to something. Among other things, on previous X-mass I received Fleet Phoon fitted with Festive launchers for bumping from warp and shooting fireworks at one freighter guy while being on Talwar. |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
231
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Posted - 2015.12.30 13:34:21 -
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"my parents s*ck, they only gave me a black iPhone, i wanted pink, this Christmas bl*ws"
- OP, probably
Just Add Water
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Erin Oswell
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
9
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Posted - 2015.12.30 13:40:34 -
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I can understand the OP's PoV tbh but I also get the other side of the coin too.
Just like when you get real presents; sometimes you get great presents, other times you get the short end of the stick. Personally I quite liked the clothing items, since I like to mess around with my avatar a lot. The Eve dev's aren't required to give anyone anything beyond what they pay for, don't forget that a lot of the their time and effort this has probably been occupied by the big spring update which we get for free.
Rules of Acquisition #13: "Anything worth doing is worth doing for money"
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
96
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Posted - 2015.12.30 13:41:17 -
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Quote:23. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
Only in EVE will people complain about getting free stuff. (Insert comment about "Kids these days.") Thread closed.
ISD Max Trix
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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