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Alizebeth Amalath
Order of Jamyl
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Posted - 2016.01.02 04:02:30 -
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"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor I call upon every Amarr, every one of the faithful, everyone that is loyal to God and Empire to join me at the Amarr Legio Basilica on the 9th at 2200 where we will chuck that misbegotten book into the fire. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7245
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Posted - 2016.01.02 05:24:13 -
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I found it entertaining.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
933
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Posted - 2016.01.02 05:36:45 -
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First, they burn the books. Then, they burn the people.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Anyanka Funk
Sanguis Inceptum Of Questionable Repute
549
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Posted - 2016.01.02 06:09:05 -
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Can us Sani Sabik come? |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2617
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Posted - 2016.01.02 06:13:51 -
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Perhaps you should use one of your Jamylite establishments for this affair, instead of appropriating the Basilica. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1826
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Posted - 2016.01.02 07:17:33 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:First, they burn the books. Then, they burn the people. More or less. The Amarr don't tend to take heresy lightly, and they do like lasers.
Max Singularity, I guess, hasn't been formally labeled a heretic, but I doubt he's welcome in a lot of circles of Amarrian society right now. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
489
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Posted - 2016.01.02 08:10:49 -
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Remember to breathe deep as the Basilica fills up with smoke from burning plastics and electronics. I suppose a "book deleting" doesn't have the same dramatic flair, but this is hilarious. |
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1504
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Posted - 2016.01.02 09:47:07 -
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[Redacted] |
morion
Lighting Build
31
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Posted - 2016.01.02 11:13:47 -
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I dndn'nt thinker we wer nsn wer taght anythuink I like math and aty music is my fav... |
Tamiroth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
260
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Posted - 2016.01.02 15:15:14 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Remember to breathe deep as the Basilica fills up with smoke from burning plastics and electronics. I suppose a "book deleting" doesn't have the same dramatic flair, but this is hilarious.
We indeed live in a space age. Even I (thank Royal Amarr Institute) can write a simple script (maybe, even a network worm) with an attached graphical library that would scan any local database for key word combinations for Max Amarria and then delete all the heretical files from the device in question, display purifying flames and threatening quotes from the scripture to the end user and then inform the Thelogy Council over the best available connection.
But burning printed copies on actual, organic paper is so charmingly traditional and symbolic that (despite the utter futility of this gesture) i'm all for it.
It's sort of an Achuran Observing the Autumn Moon ceremony, you won't understand :P |
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Yarosara Ruil
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2016.01.02 15:23:21 -
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Do not burn theses pieces of literature you fools! You will polute the air and breathe the ashes produced by that filth. Fill a cargo container, maroon it on a Barren planet and glass the surface with nuclear fire. It is the only way to be sure.
And don't you dare taking my copy, as I still use it as a glass coaster. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2274
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Posted - 2016.01.02 15:29:22 -
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This is their cultural thing, Ms. Ruil. It is their books and they are doing with them whatever they want. We really shouldn't intervene.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Yarosara Ruil
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2016.01.02 15:45:43 -
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Diana Kim wrote:This is their cultural thing, Ms. Ruil. It is their books and they are doing with them whatever they want. We really shouldn't intervene.
But still Commander, there are better way to dispose of waste other than burning it on open air. I thought the Amarr were more cvilized than this. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
581
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Posted - 2016.01.02 16:16:57 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:First, they burn the books. Then, they burn the people.
To which the correct response is, So what?
Our God is a consuming fire. He burns all that is Wicked: naughty books or Minmatar slaves; all shall be burned in the end, this life or the next.
P. S. Because I am Chosen beyond Chosen, I have been reading the Max Amarria, scouring it for dark, occulted knowledge that might be used against the Minmatar in the odd chance that Max has somehow preserved any of this sacred knowledge against those in the Theology Council who would deny us it. Nothing yet, though.
P. P. S. The Max Amarria exhibits a strange anomaly. It cannot be placed directly inside a ship's cargohold; instead, it must be put in a container which can than be put in a cargo hold. Whether this fact is due to some obscure CONCORD regulation or some dark, metaphysical property of the text is unknown to me, but those delivering texts to the bonfire ought to be aware of it. |
Ria Nieyli
37622
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Posted - 2016.01.02 16:43:23 -
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Nauplius wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:First, they burn the books. Then, they burn the people. To which the correct response is, So what? Our God is a consuming fire. He burns all that is Wicked: naughty books or Minmatar slaves; all shall be burned in the end, this life or the next. P. S. Because I am Chosen beyond Chosen, I have been reading the Max Amarria, scouring it for dark, occulted knowledge that might be used against the Minmatar in the odd chance that Max has somehow preserved any of this sacred knowledge against those in the Theology Council who would deny us it. Nothing yet, though. P. P. S. The Max Amarria exhibits a strange anomaly. It cannot be placed directly inside a ship's cargohold; instead, it must be put in a container which can than be put in a cargo hold. Whether this fact is due to some obscure CONCORD regulation or some dark, metaphysical property of the text is unknown to me, but those delivering texts to the bonfire ought to be aware of it.
Clearly; it's possessed by cargohold demons! |
Max Singularity
House Singularity Sixth Empire
453
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Posted - 2016.01.02 17:17:42 -
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Alizebeth Amalath wrote:"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor I call upon every Amarr, every one of the faithful, everyone that is loyal to God and Empire to join me at the Amarr Legio Basilica on the 9th at 2200 where we will chuck that misbegotten book into the fire.
I came expecting to see a rabble of people wanting to burn Max Amarria, but I see that Alizebeth quotes 'The Scriptures, Book 1' and infers to chuck that book into the fire.
Hmmmm....
First and foremost, I am against the purging of knowledge even if it is misbegotten because even if it is in error, it shows and illustrates the scale and depth of what people believe at that or this time.
Nauplius wrote: P. S. Because I am Chosen beyond Chosen, I have been reading the Max Amarria, scouring it for dark, occulted knowledge that might be used against the Minmatar in the odd chance that Max has somehow preserved any of this sacred knowledge against those in the Theology Council who would deny us it. Nothing yet, though.
Well there isn't much to read as what you have in your cargo hold is a book cover with a license key to open the content as it is written. ((We are actually doing this with a team of six writers hopefully by Holidays of YC118)).
So to be clear... I do not condone burning 'The Scriptures' and those that want to help rarify the availability of Max Amarria on the markets, let me know I'll be happy to come and light the match myself and toast the smoke with a drink... or four. Blessings be.
/s/ Max Singularity VI
Harbinger of Faith His Holiness Maximilian Singularity VI, Pope of New Eden
First Champion House Kador (defeated) - #MagnateGate
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Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
340
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Posted - 2016.01.02 18:11:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Perhaps you should use one of your own order's establishments for this affair, instead of appropriating the Basilica.
I agree, violent, populist acts do not belong in such a solemn place of Faith. |
Alizebeth Amalath
Order of Jamyl
375
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Posted - 2016.01.02 18:53:51 -
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Very well, I shall postpone this event until a more suitable location can be found. All of the Order of Jamyl's facilities are in space at the moment and bonfires do not belong on space stations. The Basilica should remain an open and welcoming location to all of Amarria, even the ones that support Lord Singularity. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2275
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Posted - 2016.01.02 19:16:57 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:First, they burn the books. Then, they burn the people. If they will be burning you, I myself would come to watch or maybe even to lay a fresh wooden branch to your legs as a present. I hope you will love it.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Father Goose
First Unorthodox Church of Enlightenment
0
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Posted - 2016.01.03 02:47:10 -
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Just to be clear:
I do not approve of the burning of this book. |
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1507
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Posted - 2016.01.03 10:01:16 -
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I do not approve the burning of any book, period... |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
496
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Posted - 2016.01.03 11:57:14 -
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Perhaps I'll go on a bit of a tangent and share something I've come to understand is not the norm many places in New Eden. This probably shouldn't have surprised me, but it's simply something I've never actually thought about or spent time noticing in my travels.
Among the Gripdjur, it's pretty much common for everyone to have a dataslate, datapad, personal assistant or whatever you'd like to call it. We all have variants on the theme ourselves. It's considered such a basic necessity in modern society that if you don't have one, one will be issued to you so you can keep abreast of relevant news, communicate, be given local notices, access job markets and so on and so forth. Essential equipment that's been around forever and ingrained itself in pretty much all our societies, yes?
This has pretty much led to hardcopies of pretty much anything being extremely rare among the Gripdjur clan. They're inefficient, they're a waste of natural resources, they're more expensive by several orders of magnitude to get in and out of gravity wells, clumsy to distribute and maintain and by definition can't really be used by multiple people at once.
So we networked it all, obviously. The Gripdjur clan has pretty much every single piece of text, audio, video, tech spec, etc that we encounter sent back to central repositories for the clan to freely access and use. Hardcopies are easily copied through simple and quick scans that the automated systems turn into text, audio or video versions ready for distribution. Redundant systems ensure it'd require pretty much a planetary cataclysm to destroy information and cooperation with other data repositories throughout New Eden means even that would require a cluster wide fire to "burn a book" as it were.
As long as the data doesn't contain operational secrets for clan, tribe or Republic activities, it's all free to access and peruse for any clan member of any age or social status. Even the things that are secret becomes public no less than one year after personnel or assets would not be put at risk through the information being disseminated, to ensure transparency.
While I've discovered this may not be the norm in New Eden, I've also seen that pretty much everyone has some version of this system in place. Unless you keep an idea or information purely as thoughts in your head, it'll be recorded and stored somewhere and likely be available for perusal either publicly or by authorities.
So, what does this rambling mean, really? Well for one, the ideas are out there. If it was ever written down some time in modern history, someone made a copy of it and put it out there. If it was spoken in public, someone probably recorded it and put it out there. The ideas and thoughts are being perused, considered, judged and found desirable or wanting.
This "book burning" notion is pretty much proof that those who would style themselves as civilized and superior remain subject to wildly outdated and barbaric notions that ideas and thoughts can and should be policed or removed. It is indicative of that horrific disease that keeps the Empire in New Eden that has the greatest potential for being a force for good, from becoming that force for good, due to the rampant madness that says "destroy that which disagrees with what we believe."
All other civilizations in New Eden has come to understand a simple truth. Ideas and views must be free to be spread and disseminated so as many eyes and minds can rest upon them as possible, so flaws and falsehoods in them can be noticed, recognized and rooted out, so the worthwhile parts can be taken and used for humanity's progress in whatever field they are relevant in. Simply attempting to symbolically or truly destroy an idea does nothing but show fear of what may be found in that idea or thought. A fear that it may hold some truth that will bring change. A fear that what you hold to be true now, may not be so true after all should it be critically perused.
If you truly want to dismiss Max' ramblings, which I'm sure I will be doing given what I've seen him utter in public so far, do not lend him and his "Amarria" credibility by showing you fear its contents. Consume it instead. Disseminate it. Let the ideas and thoughts be considered, reviewed, analysed and judged so it can publicly be dismissed as nonsense... or perhaps even realize it holds ideas of worth and merit, should that be the case.
If it has merit and worth, it may improve things for humanity in ways small or great. If it does not, it'll be filed away as useless and pointless.
What you will never succeed in doing, is destroying it. In today's New Eden, no ideas can be. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
941
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Posted - 2016.01.03 13:17:06 -
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So, don't burn the Max Amarria. Discuss and debate its contents.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
496
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Posted - 2016.01.03 13:21:46 -
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Pretty much. I feel it's in the interest of public discourse to elaborate on and support why this should be the case, though. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
941
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Posted - 2016.01.03 13:24:54 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Pretty much. I feel it's in the interest of public discourse to elaborate on and support why this should be the case, though.
So discuss and debate on the merits of discussing and debating the Max Amarria, you mean?
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
496
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Posted - 2016.01.03 13:26:43 -
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Not much discussion on the subject so far. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
941
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Posted - 2016.01.03 13:55:45 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Not much discussion on the subject so far.
Can't have any discussions here without certain capsuleers appearing to make a mockery of the whole thing.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
496
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Posted - 2016.01.03 14:01:19 -
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Of course you can. Just stop feeding them the attention they crave. Stay on topic, ignore their bleating, and voila. Discussion is had with little to no problem. The attention seekers aren't the problem, as much as those who insist on giving it to them. You can count the attention seekers on one hand, and they'd be utterly insignificant if it wasn't for the countless people insisting on making them relevant when they are not. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
941
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Posted - 2016.01.03 14:04:41 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Of course you can. Just stop feeding them the attention they crave. Stay on topic, ignore their bleating, and voila. Discussion is had with little to no problem. The attention seekers aren't the problem, as much as those who insist on giving it to them. You can count the attention seekers on one hand, and they'd be utterly insignificant if it wasn't for the countless people insisting on making them relevant when they are not.
*Raises hand* Guilty as charged.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
582
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Posted - 2016.01.03 14:27:22 -
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When we of the Faith which to burn something, we may use The Bonfire located in the Munory system. Perhaps those of you who still follow the wayward and liberal Theology Council can locate a similar fire-producing celestial object for your wayward and liberal rites. |
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