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Vishanka
Starfighter Command Most Usual Suspects
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Posted - 2016.01.03 16:47:33 -
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Hi,
I've been making quite good ISK in Highsec. I never really encountered PvP, if I did there were other people around me that did all the work. I don't think I will be a decent PvP pilot. I'm in a corporation, but I mostly play on my own. Never was really sociable, I'm a trusty member though. I just love to read and write in corp chat while playing but I'm in a fleet extremely seldom. The ship I have is the one I wanted, it can do everything I need for earning good ISK, I love it and it's my favorite. But what now? Where to go? What to do will all that ISK? What possibilities do I have in Highsec to spend my ISK on? I started to give away ships to people that actually use them for PvP, but there must be something for me, too.
I'd love to hear many different ideas and perhaps I'll find something new to try that's fun to me |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13392
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Posted - 2016.01.03 16:54:05 -
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start making enemies.
they're way more fun than friends.
This is a great way into the business of screwing with people (particularly if you are the patient sort)
Better the Devil you know.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2001
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Posted - 2016.01.03 17:18:19 -
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Self-destruct every now an then?
Seriously, what Ralph linked or solo suicide players with Catalysts/Vexors/Taloses for fun. Go to war with your corp. Put bling stuff on your ship and auto-pilot from Amarr to Jita till you get blown up by gankers.
More seriously, try solo PvP in a bunch of cheap frigates in lowsec. You learn how to find targets, what and how to engage, survival tactics, accommodate to loss, ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Vishanka
Starfighter Command Most Usual Suspects
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Posted - 2016.01.03 18:14:39 -
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Thank you for your answers.
I'm not sure, I don't think that I will be a PvP player that just tries to blow up anything. Thought about doing that with a Nemesis a while ago, but I'd rather like to help someone and not attacking them. I warned the players when I saw someone wasn't paying attention in Lowsec and someone was after them. Made a few friends that way. Perhaps I should try to destroy ships of people that are about to attack others?
But I don't really want to go back to Lowsec, I thought it was rather annoying to watch the Local and Dscan all the time That's why I left it and went to Highsec. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
519
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Posted - 2016.01.03 18:31:42 -
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If you'd rather help consider Logistics ships. You will fly in fleets, be absolutely loved and adored by all the km whores, and you don't have to shoot anyone.
Scouts are also a pvp role that doesn't involve shooting.
Pvp has many faces, not all of them require a given ship to blow up another.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13393
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Posted - 2016.01.03 18:48:03 -
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there's also market pvp, be forewarned though , its far more bloodthirsty and savage that the space type.
Better the Devil you know.
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Vishanka
Starfighter Command Most Usual Suspects
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Posted - 2016.01.03 19:06:59 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:If you'd rather help consider Logistics ships. You will fly in fleets, be absolutely loved and adored by all the km whores, and you don't have to shoot anyone.
Scouts are also a pvp role that doesn't involve shooting.
Pvp has many faces, not all of them require a given ship to blow up another. I could give that one a try, will take some time though I guess. I have no armor or shield skills yet, and also not much for logistics. I got a Navitas. But when I got the skills, where can I find fleets to fly with? |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1063
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Posted - 2016.01.03 20:54:06 -
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Your playstyle sound very similar to mine. I don't care for PvP so I only seek out PvE.
This game is really a hardcore PvP game. I like the friends that I've made so I continue to play but since I don't PvP there's not much for me to do with my isk for myself.
Therefore I've decided to just be a facilitator for others who enjoy PvP to do so. I donate ships to people who I know will PvP in them and help with logistics ( moving supplies around ) and things like that.
However if you don't PvP yourself and don't find much joy in helping others to do so then there is not much of a point in you playing this game.
One thing that you can work towards is a jump freighter. With a JF it opens up a lot of options for you with regards to moving things around null and low sec. Of course you'll want to learn how to do so safely as you will have several Billion isk floating out in potentially dangerous space but you can at least help people move assets around. Of course you'll want to be very tight lipped about your movements. |
Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
96
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Posted - 2016.01.03 21:23:50 -
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Vishanka wrote:Thank you for your answers.
I'm not sure, I don't think that I will be a PvP player that just tries to blow up anything. This is quite understandable. But sounds that you think, PvP is the Dark side of the Force. To blow up defenseless miners and haulers, blow up not for PvP fight fitted Explorers or Mission Runners. Thats not really all of PvP, thats only the cowards PvP.
You can join RvB (RedversusBlue), they play in HighSec. Read here more about: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Red_Vs_Blue_(RvB).
Or you can join Factional Warfare (but this will cost you standing loss against the opposite faction, and then you may not be able to enter Caldari or Gallente space without harm). Read here more about: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Factional_Warfare
Or join a NullSec Corporation in Providence (Amarr space). Different to other Nullsec Areas, they have a NRDS (not red, dont shoot) rule. Again this means, to not blow up anything and especially not cowardly the defenseless.
But PvP is not all, its only one part of EvE. When it comes to the question, what to do, may help you this table What to do in Eve Online If you click on the boxes on the site, you get additional information about the special theme. May be you find here a way to go... |
Memphis Baas
883
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Posted - 2016.01.03 21:32:06 -
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You can try to be the PVP player that starts fights and tries to blow up other ships, or you can be the PVP player that loses a bling-fitted ship that they put too much money into, because they were rich and bored.
Any way you look at it, this is ultimately a PVP game. |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2002
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Posted - 2016.01.03 21:58:17 -
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Beside just giving stuff away, blowing things up is the only way to lose ISK. Blowing things up is not something bad, it's what the whole game is designed around. Especially blowing up all those careless and "defenseless" plays an important part in keeping the industrialist busy and prices healthy. EvE is a war economy, fueled by destruction of ships, modules, loot, and freight. For example as an explorer I'm heavily interested in blowing up as many competitors as possible, because the profit I make depends on the amount of loot on the market while the supply is limited. Even more as the loot is used to make T2 rigs, the price also rises with the demand for rigs, because more ships are blown up in PvP.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1813
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Posted - 2016.01.03 23:54:45 -
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Vishanka wrote:Hi, I've been making quite good ISK in Highsec. I never really encountered PvP, if I did there were other people around me that did all the work. I don't think I will be a decent PvP pilot. I'm in a corporation, but I mostly play on my own. Never was really sociable, I'm a trusty member though. I just love to read and write in corp chat while playing but I'm in a fleet extremely seldom. The ship I have is the one I wanted, it can do everything I need for earning good ISK, I love it and it's my favorite. But what now? Where to go? What to do will all that ISK? What possibilities do I have in Highsec to spend my ISK on? I started to give away ships to people that actually use them for PvP, but there must be something for me, too. I'd love to hear many different ideas and perhaps I'll find something new to try that's fun to me
Most of the replies have focused on your PvP comments.
In terms of the "what to do with ISK" there are any number of things you can throw ISK at.
- if the amount of ISK you earn is in the billions per month you can just PLEX your account and saves subs - as above but MCT train one of the two spare characters on your account so you have some alts - be philanthropic and help out new players or donate to one of the PLEX for Good campaigns - get some of the cosmetic addons like cybernetic parts for your avatar - buy up some of the more pricey training books you will need later - start a rare ship collection - offer prize money to other people in your corp for some challenge or other. For example offer a fitted T3 as a prize for the winner of a 1v1 PvP elimination play off - use the capital to get into market speculation and trading - buy something your corp needs like another Orca/Rorqual or Freighter or Super and donate it |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5642
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Posted - 2016.01.04 00:40:27 -
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I collect & research BPO.
Only problem is, I'm running out of BPO to collect, and the last 8 are rather expensive. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
1052
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Posted - 2016.01.04 10:18:59 -
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You might look up Spectre Fleet and give that a try.
This is a sort of regular event where guys from all over get together in a fleet, go to Lowsec or Nullsec and shoot up whatever they come across/dares to challenge them. (NPSI, Not purple, shoot it, meaning everyone not purple (fleetmates are by default purple on the overview) is a legitimate target).
Have PvP-fun while only risking what you bring along and without any long-term involvement of being in a Corp so nothing really can go wrong if you don-Št like it. Don-Št know about them using Logistics but I doubt they would refuse it.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2211
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Posted - 2016.01.04 13:22:41 -
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troll marmite on the forums then roam through uedama and laugh at them in local, wont waste any isk though as they probably wont catch you
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3907
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Posted - 2016.01.04 13:55:36 -
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Pay people to shoot at eachother. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9981
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Posted - 2016.01.04 14:44:21 -
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Give it all to me - everything you have now, and everything that you might acquire in the future.
Gimme
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2215
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Posted - 2016.01.04 14:48:41 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Give it all to me - everything you have now, and everything that you might acquire in the future.
Gimme
Ill 2nd this, give it all to me and ill troll marmite on the forums then roam through uedama laughing at them in local :) op success
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30045
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Posted - 2016.01.04 15:03:06 -
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Given OPs looks, I'd know some worthwhile PvP. It's called "Social engineering" and throwing isk into your wardrobe can be quite usefull.
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
The game has changed little from my point of view ... yet here I am, playing again with 3 accounts...
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
350
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Posted - 2016.01.11 01:15:53 -
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Use that isk to GET OUT OF HIGH SEC
One of the best things you could do is fire up a Covops or Astero and just go take a tour of New Eden's backwaters with a probe launcher. Think of the probe launcher as a content generator- there is a bunch of content that it unlocks and CCP keeps adding to that list.
With halfway decent skills and a few techniques like MWD/Cloak- you are incredibly hard to catch even by most gate camps. I have camped many a gate and most things with a CovOps cloak walk right by unless we get a lucky decloak. If it were a shiny Tengu, we'd chase it, but we're not leaving our gate to chase after a T2 frigate.
You can mix up hacking sites with just sight seeing. There are many places of interest in NPC null, and setting up camp in someone's sov means you just steal content others have invested in upgrading.
Most of the loot from hacking is small enough that it will take awhile to fill a cargohold. Drop it off a jump or two out of high sec and you can come back for it later from high sec with a Blockade Runner. At some point you will die, but by then you will probably have paid for that ship several times over. Once you get to know the local landscape at your chosen high sec/low or null border- you might even take to doing whatever industry you do there. Perhaps run a small PI operation in the same low sec system you use to store loot. Low sec markets always need seeded, so I wouldn't fly an empty Blockade Runner into low any more than I would fly an empty one out.....(see the possibilities unfolding?)
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
5641
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Posted - 2016.01.11 06:41:15 -
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Everything you've ever done in EVE is PVP, even if you've never shot or been shot by another player. Get this 'I don't PVP' mindset out of your mind.
If you mine and sell the ore, you are screwing over every other miner in the region and helping nullsec supercapital builders and highsec industrialists that consume masses of ore.
If you run missions for Sisters of EVE, you are screwing over every other Sisters LP farmer by lowering the cost of Sisters launchers/probes, and helping wormhole PVPers.
Etc etc.
ISK creates opportunities to make your own fun.
Got three billion to throw away? Train into a Marauder and run a one-person gatecamp in lowsec. (You can get some incredible kills doing this).
Got twenty million to throw away? Fit a gank Vexor, and ruin some hauler's day by popping their Iteron.
Got a quarter trillion to burn? Pick a nullsec coalition you don't like (maybe they podded you when you were a newb) and offer a public bounty: 50 billion ISK to any director that defects with extreme prejudice (i.e. stealing or burning everything they can on the way out). Pay up to five people.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
414
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Posted - 2016.01.11 08:21:24 -
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Vishanka wrote:I never really encountered PvP, if I did there were other people around me that did all the work...... a glance at your killboard suggests different.
you've PvP'd and you've PvP'd quite successfully thus far, believe it or don't.
Vishanka wrote:I don't think I will be a decent PvP pilot.
this is where I encourage you to broaden your horizons. have a go and try it out, maybe you'll surprise yourself.
first, read THIS and, especially, THIS.
Take some of this dank ISK you've been socking away and buy yourself a dozen T1 Frigates. Atrons, Merlins, Tristans those kinds of fun toys that shouldn't run more than ISK 5m'ish fully fit. Head for faction warfare space and derp around in Novice sites. A solid part of EVE PvP (or the 'hard work' as you put it) is knowing what fights to take, and what fights to run a mile from. I've welped a few solo Dramiels in the last few weeks, one of which was a salutatory lesson on staying the hell out of web range of Hookbills.
Otherwise, if PvE is more your thing, and if you have hacking skills, maybe jump into an Astero or Helios and head down the rabbit warren of J-Space. Data and Relic sites aplenty can be found.
All of these require only one thing: ditch the apron-strings of CONCORD, get the hell out of HiSec.
New Eden is vast. Get out there and explore it.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Ginnie
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:26:13 -
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I am also a typical High Sec carebear. I run level 4 missions in a BS and do some High Sec exploring in a Cruiser. I recently started some Low Sec exploring in a T1 Frigate with all T1 equip. So far, so good.
I wasted a lot of time over the years training in things that I really didn't need or ever use. I'm on a much better path now, but it is still going to take a while for me to get to all the skills I really want! Long-ish term, I would like to fly a Guardian and run incursions.
If you are just loaded on ISK and looking to burn some of it, you could update your equip to factions. Replace those Heat Sink IIs with Imperial Navy Heat Sinks...you know those kinds of things.
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
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Rykker Bow
The Scope
212
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:45:04 -
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Lol... use that isk to make MORE isk of course!
The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated -
The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
676
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Posted - 2016.01.12 03:09:46 -
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I'm kind of corious how much isk OP is talking about. Doing some boring stuff won't require much of the isk to spend. You could simply invest your isk into legit bonds or corp's shares or go to Jita and try your luck with 3 2 1 Republic Fleet Firetail @ 666,666 isk or 66,666,666 isk game.
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Thorian Baalnorn
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.01.12 15:56:37 -
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A lot of people people are saying PVP, but honestly their is a lot more to do in eve than pvp. You were quite vague with what you do and what you consider to be a large amount of isk. You might consider 100 bil isk to be a large amount and that is a pretty good amount, or you might consider 1 bil isk to be a large amount which is still below what i would consider the poverty line in eve.
Pvp is part of the game and happens even in high sec. You are actually safer in Null sov space than you are in high sec most of the time. as all the shady "pvpers" hang out in hisec warring with carebears or trying to create situations in which they can get a kill on someone that doesnt fight back or fights very little. Like the chick i got in my local hisec area that likes running around stealing peoples salvage trying to bait them into attacking her.
In Null someone is either friend or foe. I would explore different parts of the game. Do different things, it doesnt have to be pvp, but dont let the prospect of pvp stop you from getting out of the kiddie pool and seeing what is out there.You will likely find once you get out of highsec and what ever "career" you are doing now and expand your horizons that your previous eve life was very limited and quite boring. |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
351
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Posted - 2016.01.14 04:17:40 -
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Thorian makes a good point here. Much of Null (even someone's sov) is nearly abandoned and honestly easier to avoid fights in than high sec. People in null will obviously be threats, rather than having to worry about which of the 80 people in high sec local might be gankers or their alts.
Fit up a blingy Tengu, mobile depot, and just go lose yourself in W-space. You can move around cloaked/nullified, then probe down a WH, then refit to...hack sites, kill Sleepers, kill other players, etc before packing up and moving on to do it again in another WH.
Set up camp in somebody's sov. Take some siphons and something with a cloak. Rob a null sec corp blind. Just for giggles top it off by killing one of their ratters when he gets complacent.
Set up a rent-a-ganker service in high sec. Bathe in the blood of care bears.
Check out Incursions- it's PvE but high end fleet PvE which is at least social.
Go help newbs. Hang around newb channels, mission channels, etc. Offer to help people complete tough missions or story arcs. Give them a decently fit ship. Maybe just fly a logi yourself and keep the new guy alive but let him do the killing of the NPCs.
Become a scammer. Takes money to make money, and you can bankroll several scams at once if you wanted. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
2139
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Posted - 2016.01.14 04:55:34 -
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Liquid ISK is wasted ISK. If you absolutely must avoid PvP combat, then I'd suggest investing your ISK into in-game items. Those items may increase in price over time, giving you interest.
My lord.
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Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
138
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Posted - 2016.01.14 15:48:34 -
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If you are not interested in shooting, it's also quite fun to build. It scales very well with your capital, so the more capital you have the more you can expand your manufacturing operations. You can keep it as simple/focused or as diverse and expansive as you'd like. I mostly made my isk through trading years ago, then there was a phase I got into manufacturing big time, spending most of my in and out of game time planning and managing and forecasting and analysing and such. It is a different kind of challenge and fun compared to just trading on its own, and in the process you gain insight into eve's economy that goes deeper than pure buying/selling.
You open your eyes to the 'process' of how an item is put on market, from a miner shooting rocks to selling ores to traders who sell them at hubs and how the moon materials come from null to Jita and spread to all corners of new eden with people doing reactions and building components and inventions and the end product being a T2 ship which gets destroyed and salvaged which feeds into T2 rig productions, etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on.
What to make, where to make, where to sell, how to get the resources, all these things are also often deeply related with what's happening with wars and politics and pvps and ganks and mission runners and all, not to mention the long term directions of how the game itself is evolving. If you haven't tried already, I definitely recommend reading up on and doing some researches on the science and industry front. |
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