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Nivada
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:21:39 -
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I just realized something. I think that even the forums could destroy a new player, but like forever? Vets, CEOs? What do you think?
So, after a 2 year break I came back, I found a good candidate for a corp and went through their recruitment process. You know, the usual: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120625
I decide to look around and see how the community has changed. I find out about RvB, have a good laugh at a cool concept and then I find this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159869
I have a real good laugh at the tear/troll posts and start to move on. Then, it hits me.
So, say what you might about KillerPriest (the OP) and his outlook on life, er I mean EVE, but let's be honest. When we were new players, coming to EVE, talking about how bad ass we are at WoW/CoD or whatever, some of us thought that way. Hell, most of the OP's issues come from a core misunderstanding of EVE, which is to be expected in a noob. Like his idea that joining RvB is crazy because it makes the game harder due to the wardec. That logic does make sense in a newby kind of way. After that he just let the standard trolls mine wave after wave of tears from him, and in the end came off looking like a whiner. He didn't really do anything terrible, he just got put on tilt and handled it very very poorly.
My point though, is if I had gone posted something like that in my first week on EVE (2005), my new corp(now in 2016) probably would have rejected my application. Why risk letting in a whiner, and especially a whiner that'll run to the forums to bash the corp they joined. This forum post happened in 2012, that's almost 4 years ago, it'll be around for ever, and be read by any potential CEO/Recruitment officer (at least the decent ones that care about what kind of members they let in.) KillerPriest basically tanked his EVE employment opportunities forever. Best case, hel'll have to explain each whine he did to every new corp he wants to join.
I just thought I'd PSA. If you're a new player and about to post something. Take a moment to read it from the eyes of a corp CEO (that's a guild master in other MMOs.) Am I about to sound whiney? Do I sound entitled? Am I bashing a group of players I don't actually know anything about? (Note: I don't mean things like. "He's a pirate, watch out". I mean things like "He's a pirate who's (insert sexual orientation and parentage)"
If you do, then just don't post, or clean it up a bit. Everything you say here will follow you for the rest of your time on EVE. You may think that's no big deal, but EVE is a social game and a character's reputation can matter far more than his/her skill points. One day you might look back on that post and facepalm about having to explain it every damn time you try to join a corp or a new friend vets you then teases you for being a whiney carebear.
I also can't help but notice how this mirrors the RL employment and social media stuff too. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30438
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:33:48 -
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No ... the logic comes from being a victim, not being a newbie.
We don't need victims who weaken our virtual genepool.
Anyone who ignores quality over quantity has no ground to speak about new players and how we need more of them.
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Ares Desideratus
EVE OF EVELUTION
328
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:42:13 -
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I'd advise against the kind of thinking in the OP.
If you're worried what a future employer (big deal, right?) might think about you, you should probably loosen up a bit, even in real life. But this is a ******* MMO we are talking about. Do whatever the **** you want, light up and puff away.
Also, **** new players. Cry me a river. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2029
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:44:19 -
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I can deduct that if stabbing people would be the only requirement in every corporation, we would have a lot of members in everyone.
But we cant stab.
Is it an argument after addition of stabbing to a game?
No, because we have more than that already.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ GòáGò¼GòªGò¼Gòú - my sandcastle
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ <=X - my yacht
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
1092
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:52:09 -
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How many corps actually hold standard newbie "I don't know any better" shitposting against anyone? Especially if it was years ago.
If they do actually look at the forum history, whether or not you are STILL shitposting is what will make the difference. |
Demica Diaz
SE-1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 08:45:30 -
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I would say; Person you referring to was in moment of heat to let out his frustration. Loss if his ship and pod triggered it. Thats hardly a way to judge person on basis of single post. It would be another story if person posted continuously to point where it clearly shows that person has tendency to overreact.
Like in real life. Person who is perfect in every way, is usually the biggest lier of them all. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2004
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Posted - 2016.01.06 10:20:20 -
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umadbro?
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2244
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Posted - 2016.01.06 10:37:34 -
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Hi friend
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Epic Name
The Lost. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
146
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:01:56 -
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Jeez, it's just a ******* game |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
782
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:23:35 -
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Nivada wrote:KillerPriest basically tanked his EVE employment opportunities forever. Best case, hel'll have to explain each whine he did to every new corp he wants to join. KP is a member of Doomheim now. I understand they're really happy with him there. |
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10003
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:43:50 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Nivada wrote:KillerPriest basically tanked his EVE employment opportunities forever. Best case, hel'll have to explain each whine he did to every new corp he wants to join. KP is a member of Doomheim now. I understand they're really happy with him there.
...and for someone who was allergic to people interaction, according to his profile screen he has (had?) a sec status of -0.2.
Bless him, it seems he did learn something from RvB after all!
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30461
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:47:39 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Nivada wrote:KillerPriest basically tanked his EVE employment opportunities forever. Best case, hel'll have to explain each whine he did to every new corp he wants to join. KP is a member of Doomheim now. I understand they're really happy with him there. ...and for someone who was allergic to people interaction, according to his profile screen he has (had?) a sec status of -0.2. Bless him, it seems he did learn something from RvB after all! Grats for 10k Likes!
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10005
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:52:13 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Grats for 10k Likes!
Thanks!
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1904
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:58:27 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:But we cant stab.
Are you sure about that?
My lord.
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Nivada
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2016.01.06 11:58:50 -
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Just to clarify to everyone, I can see how the thread title might have seem complainey. I meant it more as a warning. I feel you should be judged for being a whiney ass hat on the forums and it should affect you in game. I'm just pointing out possible consequences and maybe someone will read it and not go crazy on the forum.
Xindi Kraid wrote:How many corps actually hold standard newbie "I don't know any better" shitposting against anyone? Especially if it was years ago.
If they do actually look at the forum history, whether or not you are STILL shitposting is what will make the difference.
Honestly IDK. Maybe I'm too paranoid about how seriously corps vet their applicants.
Still I'm thinking how much it would suck to know my early tears were forever preserved for everyone to read and enjoy because I might have rage posted a long time ago when I started. (And there were tears when I first started btw.)
I mean that forum link was on the first page of google when I searched for RvB EVE. |
Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder Virtus Crusade Protectorate
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:04:27 -
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Nivada wrote:
I mean that forum link was on the first page of google when I searched for RvB EVE.
That's some quality googling. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:23:24 -
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Nivada wrote:Just to clarify to everyone, I can see how the thread title might have seem complainey. I meant it more as a warning. I feel you should be judged for being a whiney ass hat on the forums and it should affect you in game. I'm just pointing out possible consequences and maybe someone will read it and not go crazy on the forum. Xindi Kraid wrote:How many corps actually hold standard newbie "I don't know any better" shitposting against anyone? Especially if it was years ago.
If they do actually look at the forum history, whether or not you are STILL shitposting is what will make the difference. Honestly IDK. Maybe I'm too paranoid about how seriously corps vet their applicants. Still I'm thinking how much it would suck to know my early tears were forever preserved for everyone to read and enjoy because I might have rage posted a long time ago when I started. (And there were tears when I first started btw.) I mean that forum link was on the first page of google when I searched for RvB EVE. You get that completely wrong.
First of all is it extremely unlikely anyone will google about the consequences of posting here. Anyone who would be smart enough to google something like that wouldn't behave like an idiot in the first place.
Anyone who behaves like an idiot would never even get the idea of googling this ... ... and he certainly wouldn't care about it anyway.
This already covers all possibilities when it comes to this thread.
It's really black and white. When you're an ass, consequences will rain down onto you eventually.
And besides all that... anyone who is afraid of honestly expressing his opinion is not worth it at all. The worst are the hypocrites who passive aggressively behave like assholes and then complain when you insult them, because "i never insulted you". Typical USAmerican fighting culture, btw.
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10009
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:23:36 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:Nivada wrote:
I mean that forum link was on the first page of google when I searched for RvB EVE.
That's some quality googling.
Phwoar
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7322
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:48:47 -
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Well, all I can say on this is, as a new member to R-FED myself, I've never had more fun getting red on my KB. Even the expensive losses are worth it. In the short time I've been a member, I've also seen a good share of newbros coming in and learning the ropes rather quickly. One guy's barely been doing PVP and while he doesn't win that much, he's become an incredible escape artist. I'm not joking, I've never seen someone that good at pulling range and escaping points when he knows he's losing. He's got it down to an artform, and he's consistent too. Although, he's become predictable and I've told him as much.
People learn faster by doing. Anyway, the forums aren't the problem. The problem is attitude. Good attitude = learn fast, have a blast. Bad attitude = **** and whine, die in doomheim.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Nivada
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2016.01.06 14:01:57 -
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Solecist Project wrote: You get that completely wrong.
First of all is it extremely unlikely anyone will google about the consequences of posting here. Anyone who would be smart enough to google something like that wouldn't behave like an idiot in the first place.
Anyone who behaves like an idiot would never even get the idea of googling this ... ... and he certainly wouldn't care about it anyway.
This already covers all possibilities when it comes to this thread.
It's really black and white. When you're an ass, consequences will rain down onto you eventually.
And besides all that... anyone who is afraid of honestly expressing his opinion is not worth it at all. The worst are the hypocrites who passive aggressively behave like assholes and then complain when you insult them, because "i never insulted you". Typical USAmerican fighting culture, btw.
I meant KillerPriest's thread is on the first page if you google "RvB EVE" not my thread. The point I'm making is anyone that google searches RvB will see his tears. Hence consequences.
I also google the character names fairly often for intel. IE if someone wardecs my corp etc. So I'm just saying, since EVE has social engineering as a fairly major gameplay component. Anything you post on these forums may impact you in game. In a lot of possible ways. |
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Nivada
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2016.01.06 14:06:18 -
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And I know the thread is unlikely to actually help anyone for the reasons Solceist pointed out, but I still like to point things out when I see them. The social engineering aspect is pretty unique to EVE and a lot of players coming from other games probably don't realize how impactfull the forums can be on your gameplay in EVE. |
Sturmwolke
665
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Posted - 2016.01.06 14:23:03 -
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The forum has always been part of the EVE metagame, since the beginning. It's a wonderful filter for the ignoramus types.
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Annemariela Antonela
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2016.01.06 14:31:10 -
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Lots of places on the Internet are "dangerous." Forums, chat rooms, social nets-- all offer a megaphone for various kinds of idiocy, to be chiseled in digital stone forever. The sharks will sit back and let you do it too. Always assume the waters are infested, and don't be the chum.
GÇ£Culture is like a smog. To live within it, you must breathe some of it in and, inevitably, be contaminated.GÇ¥
GÇò Richard K. Morgan, Altered Carbon
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Nivada
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2016.01.06 14:36:25 -
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Annemariela Antonela wrote:Lots of places on the Internet are "dangerous." Forums, chat rooms, social nets-- all offer a megaphone for various kinds of idiocy, to be chiseled in digital stone forever. The sharks will sit back and let you do it too. Always assume the waters are infested, and don't be the chum.
Yeah this. You summed it up better than I did. |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
13258
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:12:38 -
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The premis of this thread is kind of silly. Most EVE players (including corp recruiters) don't even know this forum exists, and most that do ignore it. Hell, I've watched FAMOUS Reddit/something awful/4chan/whatever craplords join various EVE corps at will.
If anything, posting stupid stuff might be a leg up into some corps. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30490
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:17:06 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:The premis of this thread is kind of silly. Most EVE players (including corp recruiters) don't even know this forum exists, and most that do ignore it. Hell, I've watched FAMOUS Reddit/something awful/4chan/whatever craplords join various EVE corps at will.
If anything, posting stupid stuff might be a leg up into some corps. How the frell did you get into TEST???
XD
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
13260
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:18:16 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:The premis of this thread is kind of silly. Most EVE players (including corp recruiters) don't even know this forum exists, and most that do ignore it. Hell, I've watched FAMOUS Reddit/something awful/4chan/whatever craplords join various EVE corps at will.
If anything, posting stupid stuff might be a leg up into some corps. How the frell did you get into TEST??? XD
I met the requirements for entry. It's called "a Pulse" |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
30493
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:22:22 -
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Still better than BRAVE. ^_^
TEST Alliance, Best Alliance! <3
RoAnnon wrote:
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
I just scanned for sites and I found a C3
The fleet is now forming, FC wants T3s
O Bob, wonGÇÖt you buy a new Svipul for me
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Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
65
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:24:01 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I met the requirements for entry. It's called "a Pulse"
I always thought this was their test for new applicants. |
Ria Nieyli
37858
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Posted - 2016.01.06 15:55:45 -
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If anything, reading these forums have made me a lot more cautious of prospective corporations, rather than the other way around. |
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