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Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 01:57:00 - [91] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine When will you stop wriggling to get out of the crosshairs? Your time will come Slaver. Who's wriggling? It was a very good question, actually. A very pointed question. And, so far, a dodged question.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:00:00 - [92] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Jasmine Constantine When will you stop wriggling to get out of the crosshairs? Your time will come Slaver. Who's wriggling? It was a very good question, actually. A very pointed question. And, so far, a dodged question. All I heard from his words was "please don't fight us Star Fraction we are too weak and feeble to oppose you go fight BoB instead" - his cowardice disgusts me to be frank and he deserves to die. Star Fraction is recruiting
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:21:00 - [93] Actually i believe what he asked, is are you scared of BoB, and if not, why aren't you fighting them, instead of the nobodies in Placid who aren't actually expanding territory. But i believe this is a question you've been asked before, so i don't think you should have too many problems answering it without resorting to insults. Website / Recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:31:00 - [94] Originally by: Yuki Li Actually i believe what he asked, is are you scared of BoB, and if not, why aren't you fighting them, instead of the nobodies in Placid who aren't actually expanding territory. Learn to read. The reasons for this campaign are quite clearly stated in the war-declaration miss Yuki "hired border guard" Li. And though flattered I'm sure we are that you suggest the 80 strong Star Fraction should take off and invade the 1884 strong band of brothers alliance at odds of 20 to 1 against in their home territory. And though I'm sure we'd enjoy the chance to take a shot at some of their low-quality "rent-a-cop" goons guarding the pipe on the way up. Its not a campaign that has a realistic chance of success at this juncture. Fortunately a washed up clueless hasbeen no-account such as yourself has no input in our strategic planning else your proposal might actually have lasted a couple of seconds before being consigned to the dustbin of history alongside Omerta Syndicate ideals and past relevence. Thank you for your interest though. Star Fraction is recruiting
Cipher7	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:36:00 - [95] Caldari Patriot : Duh what did he say? Amarr Patriot : Duh I dunno. For the Empire! Gallente Patriot : Duh for the Federation! Jasmine : Bad Patriots! Patriotism is bad! Intaki Patriot : Duh for the Intaki Union! Jasmine : Good Intaki Patriot! Fight the powa! The Masses : Duh we don't understand. Cosmo : Of course not, we are much too intelectually elite to be comprehensible to your puny minds. More wine? Amarr Patriot : Duh...this don't seem right to me... Jasmine : Wardec or stfu. /cipher takes another pull on the hookah and passes it to the right
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:48:00 - [96] Originally by: Cipher7 Caldari Patriot : Duh what did he say? Amarr Patriot : Duh I dunno. For the Empire! Gallente Patriot : Duh for the Federation! Jasmine : Bad Patriots! Patriotism is bad! Intaki Patriot : Duh for the Intaki Union! Jasmine : Good Intaki Patriot! Fight the powa! The Masses : Duh we don't understand. Cosmo : Of course not, we are much too intelectually elite to be comprehensible to your puny minds. More wine? Amarr Patriot : Duh...this don't seem right to me... Jasmine : Wardec or stfu. /cipher takes another pull on the hookah and passes it to the right You see, I'm the Free Captain they call in when the "wardec or stfu" messages need to go out In a little while I'll be challenging the Omerta CEO to a duel I suspect. Star Fraction is recruiting
Majaraw Awalabas PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.24 02:48:00 - [97] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine a faded and lacklustre shadow of what was once a fairly competent slaver militia. These days your corporation hides in the shadow of the CVA and holds military parades to remember past glories while indulging in half-hearted interventions that impress nobody. Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I don't recall us making any such claim. I think we described the CVA as being your "sugar daddies" who stepped in when you lost some ships and started crying for your mothers. What absurd claims, illustrating your lack of knowledge in the space lanes. As for your sugar daddy comment, it is not only libel but also as hypocritical as anything else the Star Fraction spews out, coming from a pilot who owns a Navy Megathron courtesy of her own sugar daddy. Seeing such libel being spouted is astounding, but the direction from where it comes reveals much more about them.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 03:02:00 - [98] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/01/2007 03:00:47 Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas What absurd claims, illustrating your lack of knowledge in the space lanes. I'll be happy to show you my "lack of knowledge" in a formal duel any time you discover the courage Amarrian. Beyond this my comments are directly founded in the recent failed intervention of PIE in the Mito campaign where your comrades embarrassed themselves in a whelther of underachievement and rapid retreat. Quote: As for your sugar daddy comment, it is not only libel but also as hypocritical as anything else the Star Fraction spews out, coming from a pilot who owns a Navy Megathron courtesy of her own sugar daddy. Well I was passed the Navy Megathron by Jade who told me it had been given to the Fraction as a gift from a friend. I see now there is no friendship behind the gift so I've just setup a contract with the ship in your name for the princely sum of 1 isk. Reclaim at your leisure. I need nothing of yours Amarrian dog. I hope one day we'll meet in battle and I claim your corpse. Star Fraction is recruiting
RedSky Hail	Posted - 2007.01.24 03:14:00 - [99] if the gallente are dogs (Die nationalist federation lap-dog -Bacchanialian) and the minmatar are dogs (i cant see why you serve those dogs -Jasmine Constantine) and the Amarr are dogs (amarrian dog -jasmine constantine) are the caldari dogs as well? and what does this make you? a dog? shouldnt we all be the same? (a group of generalists....more efficient than specialists. Specialists are for insects -Jade or jasmine)
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 03:26:00 - [100] Originally by: RedSky Hail if the gallente are dogs (Die nationalist federation lap-dog -Bacchanialian) and the minmatar are dogs (i cant see why you serve those dogs -Jasmine Constantine) Garreck is a slaver lapdog you fool. Star Fraction is recruiting

Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 04:16:00 - [101] Originally by: Roy Gordon Put your points in plain and simple words, the Fraction, tell us what it is you want, how you expect to achieve it, and how your going to deal with those who dont hold your view point Ok, lets try this for a change. - We want free and open universe where every individual is a sovereign individual. - We expect to achieve it through leading by example and striking against the strongholds of archaic traditions which hold back the humanity. - Those who don't hold our view point are free to study the example we provide and change their mind or continue to live the way they do. Those who actively attempt to limit freedom of others and spread imperialism, nationalism and other regressive concepts are dealt with (forcibly if needed) when and if possible. Here you go. This is what I fight for. Every free captain is unique.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.24 04:27:00 - [102] I find it quite interesting that SF need resort to calling those who disagree with it liars. Quite interesting indeed. As for this gem: "And though flattered I'm sure we are that you suggest the 80 strong Star Fraction should take off and invade the 1884 strong band of brothers alliance at odds of 20 to 1 against in their home territory." I find it quite amusing that SF has the gall to use this excuse after they have repeatedly ridiculed a seventy man organization for being helped by its allies when faced with on numerical odds on the order of 1200 to 70. Or is 17 to 1 odds not good enough to warrant allies, Jasmine? You cant have it both ways. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 04:35:00 - [103] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I find it quite interesting that SF need resort to calling those who disagree with it liars. Its not a "resort" its a statement of fact. Quote: I find it quite amusing that SF has the gall to use this excuse after they have repeatedly ridiculed a seventy man organization for being helped by its allies when faced with on numerical odds on the order of 1200 to 70. I find it very amusing that you compare EM with BOB to be honest. Still. My disparagement for PIE is deeper than that recent fiasco and suffice to say it'll only be assuaged with your blood. Talk to me again when you have the courage to bring a ship out. Star Fraction is recruiting
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 04:48:00 - [104] Yuki never suggested the Fraction engage BoB, Jasmine. Feel free to back off the torrents of insults once you realise that. I'm sure you're keen to make much out of Omerta's current business dealings, but they are simply that, business dealings. Surely you can understand this, since your people too, have spent time in the exact same place (Delve) doing the exact same thing (Raising finances to further Corporate agendas) under the exact same landlord (BoB). You can argue the finer details, but we both know the situation is fundamentally the same. Turning around and denying us this simple and honestly given reason, simply because it suits you to do so, is hardly the sort of sophisticated understanding of a situation I'd expect from a Fractionist. Either we are both lapdogs of the Band of Brothers Alliance, and we are both hopelessly caught up in the imperialist memetics they spread, or we are both entities capable of conducting mutually beneficial arrangements that, at our end, further the Corporations individual aims, which may very well be counter to BoB's own. Since you are not, and never will be, a member of the Syndicate, you are in no position to judge said aims, or to even witness them in their entirety. As such, any claims about such things will be spoken inevitably from a position of at the least, partial ignorance. Hopefully this will be the first and last time Omerta is called out on the current arrangement. If it's not going to be, then start another thread for that purpose. I'd ask from all sides, including even my own CEO, and most particularly from those with little vested interest in the discussion other than to snipe at their longstanding enemies, that this be the end of the derailings and tangental eruptions. Omerta's business dealings, PIE's military competence, and other such things being argued and discussed here, have exactly zero to do with the topic at hand and belong elsewhere. I ask this of you because I hope Aria can find the answers she needs, and yet I know she never will if this pathetic bickering and derailing continues. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic at hand, shut up. Purely out of concern for a fellow family member I will say, that I...acknowledge the effort given by some to respond to her, and I hope that it goes some way to helping her understand things finally, one way or the other.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 05:02:00 - [105] Originally by: Nooey Yuki never suggested the Fraction engage BoB, Jasmine. Feel free to back off the torrents of insults once you realise that. Thats precisely what your CEO suggested I think you'll find. Quote: I'm sure you're keen to make much out of Omerta's current business dealings, but they are simply that, business dealings. Surely you can understand this, since your people too, have spent time in the exact same place (Delve) doing the exact same thing Untrue of course since we weren't there to shoot travellers on the pipe - we were renting a station for a couple of weeks not defending anyone's borders. Quote: You can argue the finer details, but we both know the situation is fundamentally the same. Its not even slightly the same and its insulting for you to suggest it is. We hired a station as a commercial transaction while inheriting none of standings, targets or obligations to patrol an area of space. Quote: Either we are both lapdogs of the Band of Brothers Alliance, and we are both hopelessly caught up in the imperialist memetics they spread, or we are both entities capable of conducting mutually beneficial arrangements that, at our end, further the Corporations individual aims, which may very well be counter to BoB's own. The fact you can't see the difference serves only to underline your blindness Nooey. Quote: Since you are not, and never will be, a member of the Syndicate, you are in no position to judge said aims, or to even witness them in their entirety. As such, any claims about such things will be spoken inevitably from a position of at the least, partial ignorance. I note that members of Omerta Syndicate feel no such obligation to keep their noses our of our business. One rule for us and another for you eh Nooey? Quote: Hopefully this will be the first and last time Omerta is called out on the current arrangement. If it's not going to be, then start another thread for that purpose. Omerta will be called on this arrangement every single time that we are challenged to adjust our strategic objectives to suit your CEO's fancy Nooey. Quote: I'd ask from all sides, including even my own CEO, and most particularly from those with little vested interest in the discussion other than to snipe at their longstanding enemies, that this be the end of the derailings and tangental eruptions. Omerta's business dealings, PIE's military competence, and other such things being argued and discussed here, have exactly zero to do with the topic at hand and belong elsewhere. I ask this of you because I hope Aria can find the answers she needs, and yet I know she never will if this pathetic bickering and derailing continues. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic at hand, shut up. This thread from start to finish achieved precisely what your corpmember intended Nooey - a mustering of nationalist dogs to bark at Fractional ideology. A shame such barking so rarely resolves into practical action in space. Star Fraction is recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.24 05:06:00 - [106] My apologies Nooey. I will ask PIE pilots not to respond to any further barbs from SF about our competence and will refrain from doing so myself. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 05:18:00 - [107] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: RedSky Hail if the gallente are dogs (Die nationalist federation lap-dog -Bacchanialian) and the minmatar are dogs (i cant see why you serve those dogs -Jasmine Constantine) Garreck is a slaver lapdog you fool. Quite so! I think Redsky lost the plot a bit, as most of us have. I think this was originally supposed to be a discussion about post-humanism. It's no secret that I have, through the years, studied, inquired, and done my best to understand the post-human concept. It fascinates me, to be honest, but in the end I must reject it. I am become a man of faith, and the concepts of Faith are quite simply not compatible with the concepts of post-humanism. I feel Star Fraction are "wrong" in their philosphy. They feel I am "wrong" in mine. What is left tends to be an uncomfortable respect, because the discussion (usually) remains civil. Post-humanists are, frankly, outside my area of concern...so while I asked questions for as long as I had them and debated for as long as there were points to discuss...that does not mean that I must come to points of insult over a simple philosophical disagreement. When Star Fraction philosophy and CVA philosophy become points of strategic contention, then (and only then) does conflict ensue. This has happened once, before my acceptance into the CVA. If it happens again, I'll be hip deep in the killing...not because Star Fraction have a bizarre philosphy, but because that philosophy becomes applied in a manner that poses a threat to the CVA and to the Empire. Until such time, post-humanism is a curious fascination. Why can't those who also disagree leave it at that? Discussions of post-humanism could become far more comprehendable to the newly graduated generations of pod-pilots if insult, personal attack, and general derailment were left out of the picture by all sides. I understand the Fractionites have a somewhat colorful rallying cry: "wardec or stfu." There's a bit of truth in it. If the views they represent are such a threat...rub them out. Use their philosophy against them, because you're only fooling yourself if you think they won't try to rub out those they feel pose a threat to their philosophy. I believe we've watched this happen to one organization recently. If you want to disagree with a degree of civility, please do so. Debate of such topics is healthy. If you want to disagree violently...do so in space. Insults will not silence post-humanism, but if conventional philosphy is correct and post-human philosophy is incorrect, decisive strategic action will silence post-humanism.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 05:35:00 - [108] Seems i pushed a red button, wasn't expecting such a volatile response. Seen as your tongue is so sharp this evening, Jasmine... Quote: Learn to read. And you, too. I was suggesting you answer someone elses question, i even went ahead and pointed out you were perfectly capable of doing so without resorting to childish insults. Apparantly you just couldn't help yourself - have a drink, relax, i hear Revan throws nice parties, and i'm sure you're invited. Quote: And though flattered I'm sure we are that you suggest the 80 strong Star Fraction should take off and invade the 1884 strong band of brothers alliance at odds of 20 to 1 against in their home territory. I seem to recall us fighting side by side in the north against a larger number of hostiles. No, they were not solely focused on us, but in the aforementioned scenario, neither would your opponent. What happened to guerilla tactics? Quote: Its not a campaign that has a realistic chance of success at this juncture. Not very idealistic nor ambitious, that, Jasmine. Not that i don't understand, but you see, it implies what so many love suggesting. That you're fighting small fries because you're afraid you'd lose against a larger one. The BoB discussion aside, considering how far Star Fraction has come since we fought CVA, i'd say it's more than capable of dealing with said alliance right now, and yet you chose Placid. Why sell yourself short? Quote: Fortunately a washed up clueless hasbeen no-account such as yourself has no input in our strategic planning else your proposal might actually have lasted a couple of seconds before being consigned to the dustbin of history alongside Omerta Syndicate ideals and past relevence. Again, not my proposal, though your words are so very flattering. Also take note, you have no concept of Omerta Syndicate's ideals, and you never did. The reason for this is you were always too busy trying to sell us your own to take them into account. It's fortunate we didn't follow your path, really. I'd hate to have slipped into a position from which my responses to a former friend are limited to bitterness and insults, in the same way yours to me were. Truly, a shame. Give Jade my regards. Website / Recruiting
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 05:39:00 - [109] And if we're still hung up on the "BoB" thing...I'm satisfied with Jasmine's eventual answer. Frankly most organizations with a realistic grip on their capabilities would answer the same way (CVA being no exception.) I was just wondering if a Fractionite would have the strength to acknowledge the true answer to the question. Humility is good for the soul.
Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 07:00:00 - [110] Jasmine, the moment you actually have anything more than assumptions about our arrangement to base your points on, is the moment you can start to talk about them with any authority or accuracy. You are not, and likely never will be, privvy to the conditions laid upon us. You simply know nothing, assume a great deal, and draw conclusions well outside the reality of the situation. I am in fact surprised you would not only push the matter here in a further derail, but that you would do so without any concrete knowledge whatsoever to back up your assumptions. There once was a time when Fractionists would speak only first after being sure of the truth of their words, what has become of that duty? You are here saying things that you simply cannot know are accurate at all... Call me blind by all means, but you dear, are the one blind to these facts, as you literally cannot see them, aren't allowed to see them, and don't deserve to see them.

Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 10:02:00 - [111] To The Cosmpolite: Your reasoned response is greatly appreciated, and I apologize for the noise. Your explanation does explain a good deal, but I cannot convince myself that your technique is one that will necessarily, or even likely, lead to success. Let me try to elaborate on the observations I made earlier. The core of the problem posed by the use of violence is fear. Fear is an emotion most warriors claim either to have defeated or not to possess, and yet most of them possess in abundance, if not for themselves, then for their homes and loved ones, for their friends and for their communities. They go into battle to ward off those fears; to ward off fear, they build barricades, claim territory and defend it; to ward off fear, they kill those who could be spies and scouts, or simply interlopers seeking to take what the warriors believe they need to survive; to ward off fear, they refuse closer connection to others, and call it security. It is fear that drives BoB's NBSI policy-- fear of weakness, of being overwhelmed by infiltrating enemies, of seeing the resources of Delve go to fuel their foes' war machines. It is fear that drives the Caldari to support their State, regardless of its flaws or shortcomings-- fear of the Guristas and the Gallente, and of others who might desire to conquer or take advantage of us. It is fear that drives even peaceful traders to create ships bristling with weapons and defensive systems-- fear of robbery, of loss of goods and ISK, or even of the murder of any friends, loved ones, or, for the more moral, simple passengers on board. Fear builds walls, writes laws, raises shields, sets limits, and arms factions. It encloses, enfolds, separates, and cuts off. Violence inevitably generates it, because violence threatens even when it is withheld. The borders it generates are borders you are seeking to make a society without (or without their existing to any great degree), and yet you and yours have elected to use terror as a weapon (you yourself once named the Fraction terrorists; I remember this because it was my first impression of your merry band, at the start of the Mito campaign). How you believe you can create a society without fear, using techniques of which fear is a byproduct, I do not understand. People who are profoundly afraid huddle together in a xenophobic little knot and seek a strong leader; this will be the situation even if you or another movement somehow manages to erase not only the empires but all record of their existence. As such, how can you cause society to fall in such a way that it will -not- give rise to first a sort of tribalism and then feudalism? Even if you use no weapons that would inspire fear, the mere isolation would do it for you. While I understand that you are willing to be patient, it seems to me as though you are not so much trying to fight fire with fire, but rather tossing incendiaries into a forest fire, spreading and perpetuating the contagion rather than dousing it (trust me, it's no flame break you're building). There are other kinds of fear besides the fear of violence-- the fear of missing out on a superb deal, for instance, the fear of dying without ever seeing the Crystal Boulevard, or the fear of never tasting long-limbed roe. These are the sort of fear that lead people to give themselves something more, rather than coagulating into tightly-knit little circles of trust and getting all aggressively *****ly towards outsiders. You're seeking an enlightened world. How can you reach that if, as a byproduct of your approach, people are afraid to extend a hand across the void, lest it be shot off? Enlightenment comes through expanded understanding; seeking that takes courage enough, without adding your own fire to all that already stands in the way. You need not directly threaten the seeker to stop the journey, only increase the background count of terror, which you seem very good at doing. How can this help?
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 12:51:00 - [112] the flaw I see in your point is that you assume we are violent to everyone. Our targets are either picked us or are picked with care as they prevent people from reaching out to the future you speak of. Those reaching across the void in peace never come under our sights. The people you are thinking about that do what you are talking about are the NBSI alliances. Many of whom we are fighting as they shot at us as well. -------------------------------------------- Join Now
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:02:00 - [113] Originally by: Yuki Li Also take note, you have no concept of Omerta Syndicate's ideals Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. I do though.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:43:00 - [114] With your permission Aria Jenneth I'm going to respond substantively to what actually motivated your post rather than the words and impression you might prefer to leave on the summit. I'm going to reference your public blog entry linked from the Omerta-Syndicate corporate site for these words: http://www.omertasyndicate.com/neocom/ Quote: "Yesterday I took my efforts against the Star Fraction to a new level with the publication in IGS of my own prescription for a path to post human paradise. I donÆt know whether it will work, but I think I may have done very well, in the sense that Star Fraction hasnÆt responded to it in any very coherent or comprehensive way. If they continue to fail to shoot it down, IÆll have a very heavy weapon to wield against them indeedû a plausible, comparatively peaceful alternative to their terrorist actions. What I really want from this, IÆm no longer sure of. The world will plod on if Star Fraction fragments or implodes; it will march on, likewise, if they continue their senseless crusade. The best of all possible worlds would be if I were right, and they admitted it and followed the path I set, thus rendering themselves either admirable visionaries or harmless kooks, depending on whether it works or not. This strikes me as about as probable as their current path ever actually working. The most I can really hope for, then is to sow dissent, to plant the seeds of internal strife. A curious note is that, believing themselves as they do to be well ahead of the rest of us, Star Fraction has a weak point in the form of being out-futuristed. They want to fight, and to keep fighting until they win. So, it could be useful to paint that will to fight for an ideal as a regressive meme. I can just smell the outrage. My main worry in all of this is how my assorted scribblings will reflect on Omerta. IÆve already encountered one Fractionist demanding that Omerta silence me, though IÆll grant that she wasnÆt one of the more thoughtful ones. So long as I can keep the tone of my writings relatively high, there shouldnÆt be a problem; I seem to have won a certain amount of respect among their ranks, and so long as I can maintain that, I doubt theyÆll try anything rash. On the other hand, their driving purpose is the silencing of memes that oppose their own, and I find myself a gleeful purveyor of precisely such memes. ôCome out and fight,ö is starting to be a regular taunt. The more I hear that, the more I wonder whether the Fraction is worth my time. I took them for a pack of lost philosophers, like monks who, instead of attaining enlightenment through contemplation, beat their faces bloody against the walls to seek truth through the pain: corrupted truth, wisdom gone astray. IÆm starting to think that my first impression was, in fact, the right one, that theyÆre nothing but warmongers who justify their lunacy with an intricate web of reasoning that few among them even understand. A few can certainly think more clearly, and see farther, but some à itÆs depressing. If they win, theyÆll plunge us all into an abyss, and they donÆt even seem to care. Hopefully, I can leave an impressionû on them, or on the wider community. Hopefully, I can drive them to change, or perish. Now this finally is worth responding to. This is what you really think Aria Jenneth, and IÆll thank you for leaving it public and accessible as an addendum to now rather misleading opening articles on this thread. I appreciate your honesty in admitting that your purpose is taking your ôefforts against the Star Fraction to a new levelö and I though I chide you for the self congratulatory tones in the opening paragraph, I can see why you might think youÆve won a certain degree of acclaim from the baying pack of nationalist dogs that laud your words like undercooked chopped liver. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:46:00 - [115] So letÆs get to the meat of the post. You believe you have forged a ôheavy weaponö to wield against the Star Fraction because you are arguing that there is comparatively peaceful alternative to our ôterroristö actions. Your focus here of course is not to pay any serious thought to what that ôalternativeö might be, merely to attack the argument and philosophical basis of current Fraction strategy so its not really a surprise that you havenÆt put much thought into defining how a pacifistic alternative ideal could actually convince a militarist nationalist movement to abandon its imperial memetics and embrace a glorious (in your eyes) utopian future. Your purpose though is much simpler. To continue the attack against the Star Fraction you began as an APEX member and wished to sustain behind the double meatshield of Omerta Syndicate and Band of Brothers claimed territory in Delve. Moving on, so youÆd obviously like to see the Star Fraction ôfragment or implodeö this is no surprise. You are an enemy who star your own corporation defeated in war and some lingering resentment is expected û and Omerta Syndicate have long harboured the same wish. I must again chide you for your egotism in believing that you have the manipulative powers to convince anyone of your spurious arguments however û the SF becoming ôharmless kooksö as a result of your writing is a vision fully deep into the realm of the ludicrous and it makes of you a clown to even suggest it. But thank you once again for speaking honestly and telling us that the most you ôcan really hope for, then is to sow dissent, to plant the seeds of internal strifeö. (This is what IÆm talking about. I like responding to people who show me their teeth. I hate all this hiding oneÆs motivations behind a banal faux-intellectual smile as in the lead post in this thread. You hate us Aria and want to spread dissent and strife and laugh while we fragment or implode! ThatÆs the spirit! Let your hate go and ask your leadership to press the war-declaration button you so yearn to see pushed.) On ôout-futuringö the futurist Star Fraction, be our guests. But I think its going to take a little more than taking a part-time job as border guards convince anyone of the progressive agenda of Omerta Syndicate. You are wayward nationalists with an NBSI ideology and penchant for murdering neutrals in 0.0 and inheriting the shoot lists of stronger dogs in the playground. To believe for one moment this shuddering mass of mediocrity can actually displace some existing progressive ideal is rank delusion worthy of the most fervent slaver or nationalist zealot. You should be proud. ôSmell the Outrageö no dear. ThatÆs peals of appreciative laughter at your clownish stumbling. Now though, you have a concern about how your ôscribblingsö might reflect on Omerta? I can answer that for you û badly. I think you might be hoping rather too boldly for a degree of respect from the free captains however. I personally will be arguing for Omerta-Syndicate to be set to -10 KOS as a result for your actions. IÆd dearly like to fight you and the moment Omerta leave the bosom of BoB and return to empire who knows û maybe my dream will come true? Are you really surprised that ôcome out and fightö is a common challenge from Fractionists confronted with such an evidently hostile mind with a clear stated desire to see us fracture and implode from the sowing of dissent and manipulation? You ran from one fight with us already Aria without a single blow being struck. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:49:00 - [116] Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 24/01/2007 16:48:54 Now youÆve run full into the arms of Corporation full of people who loath us for past deeds and arguments that is conveniently shielded by 1800+ dauntless Band of Brother pilots in the most defended region of the frontier. YouÆve found a perfect sniping hole û but you are going to have to listen to us demanding that you back up your political aspirations in space from time to time. Or perhaps we should ask Sir Molle if heÆd be prepared to agree a temporary neutrality with Star Fraction so we could come to Delve and hit you without getting blobbed 20-1? (just for pure amusement value you understand) At the last though IÆll return to your musing thoughts that the Star Fraction is in fact nothing more than a group of warmongers prepared to justify their actions with reasoning few can follow let alone understand: Makes you wonder doesnÆt it? If you had spent a little more time listening and trying to understand rather than authoring attempts to attack and diminish and manipulate opinions against what you didnÆt understand û whether you might actually have learned something more and loaded your ideological weapons with something more powerful than the magazine of misfiring blanks now firmly inserted into your breech. ôHopefully, I can leave an impressionû on them, or on the wider community. Hopefully, I can drive them to change, or perish.ö YouÆve left an impression all right. Deceitful, vane, manipulative and still possessed of corrosive hatred for the people that revealed your boasts and vendetta promises in the Mito Conflict as pure dust on the wind û yet, as always, if you want to make us change or perish you are going to have to do it from the helm of a Starship in a fleet arrayed in battle against us. Hurling deceitful barbs from the safe bosom of BoB in deep 0.0 isnÆt going to impress anybody. Well done Aria Jenneth. Your vanity and desire to boast of your cleverness has neatly proved everything I have ever said about you. Whats that sound? I think its your credibility smashing into a hundred shards on station floor. Star Fraction is recruiting
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 17:11:00 - [117] * Davlos coughs. Reference Please read in detail. Have a nice day --------------- Davlos Cain 040
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.24 17:22:00 - [118] Originally by: Davlos * Davlos coughs. Reference Please read in detail. Have a nice day I don't read the library, this is the link I used from your corporate website. Quote: "Corporate News 20/01/109 - The Neocom Journal We have added a new section to our website called the Neocom Journal. This is an in-character blog that a few of our members will post on regularly so that you can catch a glimpse of what it means to be Caldari inside the Syndicate. There are already a couple of posts so go check it out! -Kyoko Sakoda Director, Guristas envoy" So you go and have a nice day Davlos. Star Fraction is recruiting
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 17:33:00 - [119] Nothing too surprising. I expected better from you. Compromise and disrespect the privacies of others, and you may find yours breached as well. --------------- Davlos Cain 040
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.24 17:33:00 - [120] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I don't read the library, this is the link I used from your corporate website. [snip] So you go and have a nice day Davlos. ((OOC: That's quite unfair Jasmine. The Omerta Syndicate home page is an out of game site (and as such should be read very carefully before used in game or in the IGS) and on the same page as the journal there is a clear link named "About this Journal" which I suggest that you read. There is a difference between "In character" and "public knowledge". I suggest you edit your posts accordingly)) ______________________________________________ -The more it changes, the more it stays the same. Mankind and all its activities. War and Peace, Love and Hate. Ever changing, ever the same.

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