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Chatarina DeBeers
Lost Valkyries
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Posted - 2016.01.12 17:21:15 -
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Tab can't be used to roll-up all windows anymore. When I try to go into the short-cut menu to change this, it complains that Tab is reserved for something else.
I really liked using Tab for that as the button is easy, intuitive and quick to reach. I can quickly roll-up all windows, check something out without losing operational awareness, and then tab again to un-roll and get on with my life.
The obvious workaround is of course to use ctrl+F9. While this is a nice feature for cleaning out the entire UI for things like photoshoots and filmmaking, it just doesn't work well for quickly getting a better view of your surroundsings while keeping UI graphics for things like ships and other objects in space.
There is an option to minimize all windows, however this is less than ideal as it just hides all the windows, and than you have to get them back one... by... one... This is terrible!
If there was at least an option to quickly minimize and then un-minimize using the same button...
Give back Tab to minimize and un-minimize all windows, please! |
Hauck Minogna
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.01.13 03:23:04 -
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Yes please put this back the way it was
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Aliana Heartborne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.13 05:40:08 -
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omg yes, need it back :o |
GKFC
Quis Leget Haec
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Posted - 2016.01.15 08:28:30 -
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Couldn't agree more, there are now two key shortcuts that do exactly the same thing (Tab and Shift+Tab)...
Put it back the way it was. |
Geopoly
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.15 17:34:45 -
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Put TAB back, please. |
Chatarina DeBeers
Lost Valkyries
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Posted - 2016.01.15 19:20:45 -
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The place I find it most damaging, is when working with PI. To see a planet and it's interfaces, it's an absolute must to have a cleaned up UI. Previously I could use Tab to quickly roll-up windows. Now I have to roll them up individually (there's a lot of them) and then un-roll then individually when I'm back in normal fighting mode. It's very sad, especially considering how PI is already enough of a click-fest as is. |
Somebody TheGreat
Somebody's Corp Care Factor
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Posted - 2016.01.15 22:52:46 -
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Agreed! I used to use it all the time. |
Jerimiah Kool
PHOENIX New Eden Industries The Intergalactic Panic Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.19 14:22:00 -
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PLEASE PUT TAB FUNCTIONALITY BACK!
How could you even concieve of removing a function as basic as this!?!
Give us TAB back! Very essential!!! |
Chatarina DeBeers
Lost Valkyries
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:52:18 -
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It's still possible to roll up windows. Just double click on the top bar of each window, and it will roll up. However doing this one window at a time to do things like PI only adds to the mindless clickfest of it all. |
Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2016.01.22 23:54:35 -
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Literally spent 10 minutes raging about this on teamspeak looking for the new shortcut option that doesn't exist, put it right CCP!
I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours.
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J Oskold
Wyndrix Mining and Development SL33PERS
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Posted - 2016.01.23 18:08:39 -
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+1
The TAB functionality was incredibly useful.
It would be great to have at least a shortcut entry for it.
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pajedas
Warlord of Mars
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Posted - 2016.01.23 18:30:32 -
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+1
Love TaB-« almost as much as RC Cola-«.
:-/
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.30 00:36:09 -
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Please return this functionality. PI is unusable without it.
Also the Ctrl+Shift+Tab to toggle minimize all windows is worthless as it removes all windows and all chat windows are empty on restore instead of showing actual info.
All in all amazing step back for usability. Doesn't anyone at CCP actually play EVE? |
Pulttl
Off-By-One Errors
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Posted - 2016.02.03 04:53:49 -
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+1
Existing hotkeys are not as convenient as the previous Tab key, especially with many windows open or with some windows that are difficult to reopen quickly.
If the Tab key binding itself had to be unbound for some reason, please keep the previous Tab key function somewhere in game, and give it an alternative key binding or at least allow a user key binding.
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Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemist Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.04 03:04:16 -
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+1 for this. Why is there two binds in game now for the same function? Give us the tab roll up function back
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.05 08:48:25 -
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Pulttl wrote:+1
Existing hotkeys are not as convenient as the previous Tab key, especially with many windows open or with some windows that are difficult to reopen quickly.
If the Tab key binding itself had to be unbound for some reason, please keep the previous Tab key function somewhere in game, and give it an alternative key binding or at least allow a user key binding.
This is the main problem. I can live with tab being something else (useless as it is at the moment) but the actual function is gone so no chance to remap another key. :(
Really makes me question what kind of person makes decision on UI and if they ever actually play the game. |
J Oskold
Wyndrix Mining and Development SL33PERS
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Posted - 2016.02.09 19:14:11 -
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The February release still has both Tab and Shift+Tab "hard-bound" to the same action |
Nuclear Nut Zack
CK-0FF Bad Intention
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Posted - 2016.02.11 11:16:24 -
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Yep, until this is fixed the Ship Tree and map are basically unusable. I can't see anything with all the windows over what I'm trying to look at, and minimizing and restoring the windows takes too long. |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:01:27 -
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The continued lack of the tab key makes everything worse.
In a game that you could as well call "Windows online" you need and want a key that instantly collapses all windows to make room for the view beyond without minimizing everything.
It was especially helpful when you only had some windows collapsed, so double tapping the tab key made everything visible again. CCPlease. Stop removing things that were working only because you want to bring something else. Expand on existing features, not kill one feature in favor of another. |
Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemist Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:27:16 -
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Can we get a dev response please?
@dominousnolen
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Dunamis55
NER Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.12 16:55:24 -
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Any news yet? This was a godsend when needing to do PI. :/ |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.02.12 18:12:00 -
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+1, and it would be a godsend anywhere, not just PI. Not sure why even CCP of all developers is so absolutely hellbent on desperately trying to prove to the rest of the world that beauty trumps function and practicality; why waste the time to fix it or even keep it in good working order when we can **** it up a little and make it look pretty?
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Moskoverk Edmont
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2016.02.12 18:29:57 -
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+1 |
stykyt
Dry Atomic Fusion Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2016.02.13 20:04:20 -
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I've just come back to the game after some time away and I really miss this functionality. |
Soltys
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Posted - 2016.02.15 10:43:25 -
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Could someboedy from CCP respond about this regression ?
Jita Flipping Inc.: Solmp / Kovl
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Chatarina DeBeers
Lost Valkyries
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Posted - 2016.02.16 13:36:28 -
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I can't take this anymore. Too many bad changes to things that already work just fine. Taking some time off to play Dark Souls 2 or whatever...
CCP, please stop fixing things that aren't broken! |
Trajan Unknown
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
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Posted - 2016.02.16 18:55:13 -
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The workaround seems to be shift+tab+ctrl or sth weird like that. Looked it up earlier in the shortkey menu and found something. It doesn-¦t work properly but it seems to be only way to make the UI disappear at the moment. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.16 19:33:28 -
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Axhind wrote:Also the Ctrl+Shift+Tab to toggle minimize all windows is worthless as it removes all windows and all chat windows are empty on restore instead of showing actual info. This looks to me like it's unintended. If you click on another tab and click back the text that was there is redrawn.
I've passed this issue along to the UI team.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Dominous Nolen
Powder and Ball Alchemist Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.17 21:35:25 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Axhind wrote:Also the Ctrl+Shift+Tab to toggle minimize all windows is worthless as it removes all windows and all chat windows are empty on restore instead of showing actual info. This looks to me like it's unintended. If you click on another tab and click back the text that was there is redrawn. I've passed this issue along to the UI team.
Thanks Darwin.
Can we confirm if this Tab function was removed as a required change or overall the behaviour we are missing is an unintended change that can be restored?
@dominousnolen
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Axhind
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.18 08:19:55 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Axhind wrote:Also the Ctrl+Shift+Tab to toggle minimize all windows is worthless as it removes all windows and all chat windows are empty on restore instead of showing actual info. This looks to me like it's unintended. If you click on another tab and click back the text that was there is redrawn. I've passed this issue along to the UI team.
Yea switching tabs fixes the issue but I have between 4 and 6 tab groups depending on a client. Not exactly convenient to have to cycle them all every time we hide the windows.
If it's fixed it will be better but tab was still superior function as you could still see number of people in local while doing PI. Something that is kinda useful. |
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