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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.15 02:30:06 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Shakor, Heth, Jamyl and Karsoth etc are all worthy of the 'great leaders' moniker too. Midular was not particularly different from them in that she ****** up rather badly just like they did. I'll grant you that in her case it's a matter of opinion but it's not exactly a rare one.
I personally do not think that the late former Prime Minister Karin Midular's entirely at fault with the clusterfrak that happened in the democracy experiment. If anything, her failures are testaments to the existing problems within the Republic and the Minmatar people themselves.
Let her failures remind us that the Voluval does *not* dictate destiny and the dangers of not exhibiting a backbone in a political landscape as fractious as the Republic as well as a reminder that democracy is not a perfect system and may not work with societies like ours (which is divided along family and blood lines).
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Anslo
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
32327
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Posted - 2016.01.15 02:47:55 -
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I heard we were **** posting cause Kim's dumb.
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Sirlan Takahi
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
6
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Posted - 2016.01.15 03:59:06 -
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I'm no artist, but I threw together a quick mock-up of what Ms. Kim's attitude has been slowly turning into.
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
872
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Posted - 2016.01.15 04:00:47 -
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just............ wow... |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
987
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Posted - 2016.01.15 04:21:54 -
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It is quite accurate, far as I can see it.
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Anslo
Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies.
32327
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Posted - 2016.01.15 04:48:06 -
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Rare.
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
517
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Posted - 2016.01.15 07:18:38 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Let her failures remind us that the Voluval does *not* dictate destiny and the dangers of not exhibiting a backbone in a political landscape as fractious as the Republic as well as a reminder that democracy is not a perfect system and may not work with societies like ours (which is divided along family and blood lines).
But she did become a great leader and had a life that affected directly and undirectly trillions. How many of us can say that?
And I digress, I feel that a tribal assembly is a democratic system, altough maybe not in the traditional Gallentean definition of the word. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
989
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Posted - 2016.01.15 08:24:50 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Let her failures remind us that the Voluval does *not* dictate destiny and the dangers of not exhibiting a backbone in a political landscape as fractious as the Republic as well as a reminder that democracy is not a perfect system and may not work with societies like ours (which is divided along family and blood lines). But she did become a great leader and had a life that affected directly and undirectly trillions. How many of us can say that? And I digress, I feel that a tribal assembly is a democratic system, altough maybe not in the traditional Gallentean definition of the word.
Her ability to maneuver despite being hamstrung by her own government should be commended, yes, but I do not believe that her Mark had anything to do with it.
However, I believe that her fall was contributed in no small part by her refusal to take any firm stances in favour of appeasement. This is what we should learn from her fall.
In the case of the new Tribal Assembly, it is not exactly democracy since the common tribesman doesn't actually vote for anything (though their input will still be taken into consideration). However, let it be known that the voices of the Republic citizenry will still be heard. So petition to your local grassroot leaders and they will bring it up the chain for deliberation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2361
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Posted - 2016.01.15 10:14:57 -
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Anslo wrote:I heard we were **** posting cause Kim's dumb. Probably because you fail to hear (or have audio hallucinations) and lack grey matter in your thick gallentean skull to understand that Kim isn't dumb. Well, obviously someone like Derpslo shouldn't have say in measuring who is dumb or not, simply because he fails at this miserably... just as on a lot other things, including fighting in ships and managing corporation.
That one individuum is a vivid example why the Federation must be destroyed. Look at that face. Look at him carefully. This is the face of the enemy. They are not to be talked with. They can't be reasoned with. They must be stomped down with Caldari boots. This is the only language Derpslo and other gallentean doltheads like him understand.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2361
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Posted - 2016.01.15 10:16:21 -
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Typical idiotic and inaccurate gallentean propaganda. Are there anyone dumb enough to find it either funny or reflecting reality?..
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Sirlan Takahi
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
12
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:19:40 -
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Diana Kim wrote: Are there anyone dumb enough to find it either funny or reflecting reality?..
As of right now, at least 7 people have shown their approval. Some of them highly esteemed scientists, some of them leaders of important corporations with complex duties, some of them plain old murderous pirate capsuleers. I don't think any of these can be qualified as "dumb".
Regardless, see this as an intervention, Kim. You need psychological assistance, perhaps one or two of your clones down the line were defective, your infomorph anima didn't transfer correctly and got all jumbled up, causing delusions. Take the wake-up call we are offering you. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2366
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Posted - 2016.01.15 11:32:07 -
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Sirlan Takahi wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Are there anyone dumb enough to find it either funny or reflecting reality?..
As of right now, at least 7 people have shown their approval. Some of them highly esteemed scientists, some of them leaders of important corporations with complex duties, some of them plain old murderous pirate capsuleers. I don't think any of these can be qualified as "dumb". Well, then I have to strongly disagree with what you think. Besides, I have seen quite a lot of people among capsuleers who pretend to be scientists but can't put two things together. I stand on what I said. Those who find it either funny or reflecting reality are simply dumb.
Sirlan Takahi wrote: Regardless, see this as an intervention, Kim. You need psychological assistance, perhaps one or two of your clones down the line were defective, your infomorph anima didn't transfer correctly and got all jumbled up, causing delusions. Take the wake-up call we are offering you.
Well well, and who now would be you? I never saw YOUR medical diploma or don't remember YOU doing any evaluation of my psychology. Are you one of these gallentean bootlickers, who point out on Caldari Officers and loudmouth them?.. I can bet on this since I haven't dealt with you.
And speaking about delusions, cmon, someone makling up SUCH deluded picture can't blame others in having delusions. At least your delusion now is confirmed by facts, and your claims about my possible delusions, luckily, just a fruit of your inflamed imagination.
Want a delusion? http://i.imgur.com/8Okevqr.png - this is a delusion. Now, disappear!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
989
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Posted - 2016.01.15 14:16:33 -
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Sirlan Takahi wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Are there anyone dumb enough to find it either funny or reflecting reality?..
As of right now, at least 7 people have shown their approval. Some of them highly esteemed scientists, some of them leaders of important corporations with complex duties, some of them plain old murderous pirate capsuleers. I don't think any of these can be qualified as "dumb". Regardless, see this as an intervention, Kim. You need psychological assistance, perhaps one or two of your clones down the line were defective, your infomorph anima didn't transfer correctly and got all jumbled up, causing delusions. Take the wake-up call we are offering you.
What is this anima you speak of? Is it something similar to a Spirit or a Soul?
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Sirlan Takahi
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
13
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Posted - 2016.01.15 16:19:25 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Sirlan Takahi wrote:Diana Kim wrote: Are there anyone dumb enough to find it either funny or reflecting reality?..
As of right now, at least 7 people have shown their approval. Some of them highly esteemed scientists, some of them leaders of important corporations with complex duties, some of them plain old murderous pirate capsuleers. I don't think any of these can be qualified as "dumb". Regardless, see this as an intervention, Kim. You need psychological assistance, perhaps one or two of your clones down the line were defective, your infomorph anima didn't transfer correctly and got all jumbled up, causing delusions. Take the wake-up call we are offering you. What is this anima you speak of? Is it something similar to a Spirit or a Soul?
While that's the origin of the word, I can assure you that this is not some spiritual, mythological or religious concept I'm applying here. It's just the word I chose to talk about a capsuleer consciousness when it is not in a brain, but rather in a state of transmission as pure data. New Eden Common is not my first language, so I might have made an awkward choice of words which the automated translator didn't correct for.
Diana Kim wrote: I never saw YOUR medical diploma or don't remember YOU doing any evaluation of my psychology. Are you one of these gallentean bootlickers, who point out on Caldari Officers and loudmouth them?.. I can bet on this since I haven't dealt with you.
It's good that you never saw my medical diploma, or remember me evaluating your psychology, as that would be an hallucination! I am not a medical doctor, psychologist, or anything of the type. My specialty is archaeology. The reason why I proposed the clone problems is that it's common knowledge that this sort of accident can happen and damage our minds. The fact that your delusions are so noticeable to non-specialists on the subject such as I is just more alarming.
Oh, and about who am I: I'm not famous (or notorious) like most capsuleers who frequent this board. I'm also not politically positioned against or in favor of either the Caldari or the Gallente (as you seem to claim that I am). Yet, I'm sharing my opinions here as I have a right to. In the galnet forums, we are all equal! (Except the moderators) |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2372
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Posted - 2016.01.15 17:12:12 -
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Sirlan Takahi wrote:Diana Kim wrote: I never saw YOUR medical diploma or don't remember YOU doing any evaluation of my psychology. Are you one of these gallentean bootlickers, who point out on Caldari Officers and loudmouth them?.. I can bet on this since I haven't dealt with you.
It's good that you never saw my medical diploma, or remember me evaluating your psychology, as that would be an hallucination! I am not a medical doctor, psychologist, or anything of the type. My specialty is archaeology. The reason why I proposed the clone problems is that it's common knowledge that this sort of accident can happen and damage our minds. The fact that your delusions are so noticeable to non-specialists on the subject such as I is just more alarming. Mhm, lets see. A capsuleer without medical education giving advices about health. A capsuleer claiming to be "archeologist". A capsuleer, making a delusions about Caldari Officer (example - his picture with claims about yelling at nebula). A capsuleer, lacking basic understanding of common knowledge and using it as excuse for his inane attempts at health evaluation. A capsuleer, claiming another capsuleer would have delusions without even specifying them.
Considering the only one here showing delusions would be you, you really should stop posting in the Summit and call the nurse.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
246
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Posted - 2016.01.16 04:25:57 -
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Tibus Heth's reforms to an ailing and outmoded previous system, dubbed the New Meritocracy in the press and recovery of the Homeworld is unsurpassed by any other Caldari. This is what makes Tibus Heth to be Greatest Caldari Hero.
Heth's downfall wasn't all of his own making. There was alot of confusion , misinformation , propaganda. There was a psychological warfare going on in the State against Heth to create a massive demoralization of the civilian populace and the Navy to turn against him, with the sole purpose of regime change. Implemented by the Federation intelligence service, Mentas Blaque's notorious Black Eagles, using Federation agents through blackmail or quislings to carry out covert ops and false flag operations.
The demonstration by the Kaalakiota coporation factory workers,is just one of many operations Heth believed Black Eagles were involved in. Peaceful protestors who had hired an armed militia for apparent security. When asked to disperse they refused , the State peacekeepers used non lethal weaponry to disperse the protesters, their armed security opened fire on the State Peace keepers which ended in 2hour long gun battle, in which the State peace Keepers had to retreat after being overwhelmed by the protestors security. Which led to the disaster of the downing of the freighters. I dont know if Heth thought it was the failure of the management to properly deal with the issues of the protestors,was where the Black Eagles federation agents were involved or the armed secuirty , or maybe both. It led to the disaster of the freightors damning headlines HOME GUARD AND STATE PEACEKEEPERS ATTACK DEFENSELESS PROTESTORS. success for Mentas Blaque's intelligence service, ever more hysteria regarding Heth within the State.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2113
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Posted - 2016.01.16 17:04:48 -
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Neither. Heth was a thuggish, two-bit tyrant who ruthlessly seized power. Once in power he consolidated it using brute force in the form of his Provists to stifle any dissent and enforce his will. At the end of his reign of terror he even ordered a titan class vessel to use its doomsday weapon in Caldari Prime's atmosphere.
Heth's acts were not heroic in any way, shape or form.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2372
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Posted - 2016.01.16 19:21:26 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Neither. Heth was a thuggish, two-bit tyrant who ruthlessly seized power. Once in power he consolidated it using brute force in the form of his Provists to stifle any dissent and enforce his will. At the end of his reign of terror he even ordered a titan class vessel to use its doomsday weapon in Caldari Prime's atmosphere.
Heth's acts were not heroic in any way, shape or form. Oh, and here we can see how a tribal ignorant continues to lie about Caldari Officers.
One have to be an idiot to claim Tibus Heth was a tyrant. One have to be an uneducated dolt to claim Tibus Heth was thuggish. One have to be a complete ignorant to claim Tibus Heth ruthlesly siezed power.
No, really, are there someone who still doesn't know that Caldarti CEOs gave him power, that Caldari people gave him power, he didn't sieze anything?..
At least we can see how sick is a primitive savage mind of Rella. She misses all the facts and loudmouths Caldari patriots with foam from her mouth with all the ridiculous insults her tiny tribal brain could generate.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7939
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Posted - 2016.01.16 19:48:19 -
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Well, except Haatomo, and we all know how that fell out.
And, of course, that KK removed him from his CEO position, and both KK and the CEP declared him an outlaw.
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Ghelisis Achasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2016.01.16 21:46:32 -
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I firmly believe that Tibus Heth would have taken over the entire cluster (INCLUDING Low and Nullsec) if he wasn't reigned in. Retaking Caldari Prime was the first step, I'm willing to bet. That's their home, they have every right to it. but deploying a Titan above the planet and actively hunting down Gallente is where I draw the line. I was one of the ones that cheered the downfall of the Shiigeru. It meant that we were no longer under the gaze of a tyrant.
I see it as payback for what Yakiya Tovil-Toba did to our planet 200 years ago. Some places where that carrier fell are still uninhabitable. Others have been converted into strange forest-like areas where the only hint a huge ship crashed there are rusted hints of hull here and there. One of the engines had survived and it's now a green bowl full of trees.
so I suppose Mr. Heth came from a long line of tyrants. if Kim ever rises to become President of the Caldari State, well then I fear for us all. |
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7941
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Posted - 2016.01.16 22:29:28 -
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Bless you, Achasse, but you really should study comparative politics.
The position of Executor for the State was dissolved after Heth's final, mad days.
We have no elected officials such as you'd think of it, though I suppose shareholders will voice their opinions in a way that you might consider an election.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5852
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Posted - 2016.01.17 03:41:09 -
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Ghelisis Achasse wrote:I firmly believe that Tibus Heth would have taken over the entire cluster (INCLUDING Low and Nullsec) if he wasn't reigned in. Retaking Caldari Prime was the first step, I'm willing to bet. That's their home, they have every right to it. but deploying a Titan above the planet and actively hunting down Gallente is where I draw the line. I was one of the ones that cheered the downfall of the Shiigeru. It meant that we were no longer under the gaze of a tyrant.
I see it as payback for what Yakiya Tovil-Toba did to our planet 200 years ago. Some places where that carrier fell are still uninhabitable. Others have been converted into strange forest-like areas where the only hint a huge ship crashed there are rusted hints of hull here and there. One of the engines had survived and it's now a green bowl full of trees.
so I suppose Mr. Heth came from a long line of tyrants. if Kim ever rises to become President of the Caldari State, well then I fear for us all.
The only thing Tovil-Toba did wrong was missing the capital of Gallente-Prime - after the degenerate act of tyranny that was the bombing of Caldari Prime, you deserved worse. Sadly we are used to paying in Caldari blood for Gallente arrogance.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
994
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Posted - 2016.01.17 06:44:00 -
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Ghelisis Achasse wrote:I firmly believe that Tibus Heth would have taken over the entire cluster (INCLUDING Low and Nullsec) if he wasn't reigned in. Retaking Caldari Prime was the first step, I'm willing to bet. That's their home, they have every right to it. but deploying a Titan above the planet and actively hunting down Gallente is where I draw the line. I was one of the ones that cheered the downfall of the Shiigeru. It meant that we were no longer under the gaze of a tyrant.
I see it as payback for what Yakiya Tovil-Toba did to our planet 200 years ago. Some places where that carrier fell are still uninhabitable. Others have been converted into strange forest-like areas where the only hint a huge ship crashed there are rusted hints of hull here and there. One of the engines had survived and it's now a green bowl full of trees.
so I suppose Mr. Heth came from a long line of tyrants. if Kim ever rises to become President of the Caldari State, well then I fear for us all.
Kim as President?
Just give me a moment to laugh my lungs out.
No, it's never going to happen. Say what you will about Heth, he does at least know how to actually lead people beyond simply shouting and waving his rank around like a 5 year old with a gold medal in something or other. Kim is so unqualified it's not even funny. She couldn't even make a decent argument without resorting to the strawman or the ad hominem. Heck, far as I know she has never lead a fleet and I don't think she even knows how to lead one.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2375
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Posted - 2016.01.17 11:15:35 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote: The only thing Tovil-Toba did wrong was missing the capital of Gallente-Prime - after the degenerate act of tyranny that was the bombing of Caldari Prime, you deserved worse. Sadly we are used to paying in Caldari blood for Gallente arrogance.
Well, Mr. Tuulinen, you can be surprising, both negatively, and now... positively.
However, since this discussion is about great deeds of Tibus Heth, I would like to remark, that Tibus Heth was actually trying to preserve Caldari blood. This was displayed even in his actions in Armor Forge. And probably this was the reason why he stopped further advance after he has liberated Caldari Prime from Gallente occupants.
While I personally can't agree with his decision to stop the war and I would be glad to pay any price to take gallentean swines down once and forever, I can't stop admiring strong Tibus Heth's resolve to preserve Caldari blood.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2375
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Posted - 2016.01.17 11:19:27 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: Kim as President?
Just give me a moment to laugh my lungs out.
No, it's never going to happen. Say what you will about Heth, he does at least know how to actually lead people beyond simply shouting and waving his rank around like a 5 year old with a gold medal in something or other. Kim is so unqualified it's not even funny. She couldn't even make a decent argument without resorting to the strawman or the ad hominem. Heck, far as I know she has never lead a fleet and I don't think she even knows how to lead one.
I don't think anyone would pay attention to lies of coward gallentean lapdog, flying WARP CORE STABBED ships into warzone.
Egivand, your speech about Caldari Officer in that tone belongs to a circus, not to IGS. And you should wear a huge red nose, speaking it. That appearance would match your words perfectly.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
519
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Posted - 2016.01.17 14:21:48 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The only thing Tovil-Toba did wrong was missing the capital of Gallente-Prime - after the degenerate act of tyranny that was the bombing of Caldari Prime, you deserved worse. Sadly we are used to paying in Caldari blood for Gallente arrogance.
This has been discussed before but the first act of physical warfare was on Caldari hands. They destroyed Nouvelle Rouvenor, which resulted in a swift and anger driven response from the Gallente. Which, eventually, was responded with the attack on Hueremont. This is a gross simplification of events of course, but it is falsifying history to imply that Gallentean reactions were unprovoked. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2376
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Posted - 2016.01.17 15:19:23 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:The only thing Tovil-Toba did wrong was missing the capital of Gallente-Prime - after the degenerate act of tyranny that was the bombing of Caldari Prime, you deserved worse. Sadly we are used to paying in Caldari blood for Gallente arrogance.
This has been discussed before but the first act of physical warfare was on Caldari hands. They destroyed Nouvelle Rouvenor, which resulted in a swift and anger driven response from the Gallente. Which, eventually, was responded with the attack on Hueremont. This is a gross simplification of events of course, but it is falsifying history to imply that Gallentean reactions were unprovoked. Negative. More like. Twice negative.
First, warfare was started by Gallentes with the blockade of a planet. This is pretty much physical warfare as well, since you know... those, who try to break through are shot.
Second, successful demolition of Nouvelle Rouvenor wasn't committed by organized Caldari resistance or Caldari military forces (like Adm. Noir, who have committed terror act while being in Fed. Navy), but unrelated terrorist (who were actual terrorists 200 years ago, but now shouldn't be considered terrorists anymore) organization - Templis Dragonaurs.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7942
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:07:27 -
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Teinyhr, a commonly-debated issue. Caldari would say that this began with Gallente cultural imperialism, or else with Gallente political domination of the Federation, or with the Gallente blockade of Caldari Prime, or with the Gallente bombardment of Caldari cities. Gallente usually say that the first blow is Nouvelle Rouvenor, or else the Caldari corporations building secret colonies outside of Federation space; usually the first, however, as tax evasion is usually not a dramatic enough thing for use as a rallying cry.
The frankly sad thing is that the Gallente believe so firmly in the (to them) indisputable superiority of their cultural norms that they don't see how often they trample and degrade the cultures of those around them.
Teinyhr, remember the name of that historically significant group, the Cultural Deliverance Society? Do tell, what were the Gallente trying to do? Deliver the Caldari from the darkness of being Caldari?
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
519
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:40:36 -
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I'm not talking politics, but about who basically shot first. Because that is usually the point you can't take things back to a sane level anymore. And, indisputably, people of Caldari origin were the first to pull the trigger. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7942
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Posted - 2016.01.17 17:54:00 -
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Who shot first is inherently political.
And the point is disputed.
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