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Sadao Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.01.24 08:29:00 - [1] hey Dark o/ I clicked the link in your Siggy. Great pictures! Please share with us more information. Have you got artist conception drawings of you new house? Tell us about the time-frame for the build. and just how the hell do you find the time to play eve? A blog would be cool -Sadao
Mitten Caldari Destructive Influence Apocalypse	Posted - 2007.01.24 09:47:00 - [2] Phew, I think you just avoided the wrath of DS by mere fractions of a nanometer.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.24 11:20:00 - [3] Originally by: Mitten Phew, I think you just avoided the wrath of DS by mere fractions of a nanometer. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 12:52:00 - [4] Thanks for the interest Sadao. You wanted info, here it is, this will be a long post, lol. Well, where to begin... I bought the land in 2003, 63 acres, about 80% wooded with mostly soft maple, ash & various species of conifers, but mostly white & scotch pine. I had been looking for a wooded vacant lot for about 2 years prior to purchasing this one. When I found this lot, I was shocked at the price, less than $1000 USD/acre. I guess some woman who lives in Florida inherited this piece of land and did not want to pay taxes on it, so just wanted to unload it for $60,000. Now, the land was up for sale for about 5 days b4 I could get out and look at it. When I did finally get out there, someone else was looking at it. I called the realtor ASAP, and was told someone had already put an offer on the land, and that I might be too late. Well, since she was the one who would get commission, I told her I would offer full price. I ended up getting the land. However, since I still lived at home with my parents I had no equity, which means the best loan I could get was 11%, thatÆs terrible! One of my brothers stepped in, and went in on the land with me, he bought 18 acres, I took the rest, more importantly he stepped up with a 3% home owners loan for the whole lot, and I paid him off that way, saving me a ton of $$ on interest. Subsequently I sold another 5 acres of land to another brother, all 3 of us will build homes on that 63 acre lot. I started out by clearing the trees where we would build, and dig some ponds, as we need a lot of fill for landscaping, plus ponds with fish in them are cool. I decided that I needed some equipment to aid in the clearing, so I bought the Ford 575D backhoe. I also came across a good deal on a 16 ton dump truck, so snatched that up. Both came in very handy for the clearing work, and I was able to clear 4 acres of fully wooded land. ThatÆs about 400-500 trees. That includes uprooting all those stumps, and loading them in the dump truck, and taking them to the back of the lot creating what is now known as the "stump graveyard". In the winter of 2005/2006, I was planning the "pond dig" I decided to start with the smaller pond, as I have never done this before. So I bought a 1968 CAT D6C bulldozer. It weighs in at 32,000 lbs, and has a 10'-6" wide blade on it, great for just knocking trees over that I previously would cut down. This was the machine I planned to use to "push out" the small pond which has a water surface area of ~1/4 acre, about 4000 cu yd of material to be moved. Well, this summer was not kind to me weather-wise. I made great progress for the first few days on the small pond, but then the rain hit hard, halfway through the pond dig. Since then I have not been able to continue with any digging, nor even any more clearing, the bad weather has been here since august. Also last winter, during my Christmas holiday, I designed & built a log splitter to deal with all the logs that I cleared. I sold some firewood this fall, but not all of it, as again the weather kind of screwed meà In fall of 2006, I decided that the bulldozer alone was not going to be enough, especially when itÆs time to dig the large pond, which is about 1 acre in surface area, and about 25,000 cu yd of material to me moved. I decided to buy my CAT 225 Excavator. This baby weighs in at 56,000 lbs, and has a 1.5 cu yd bucket on it. I have not been able to use it much yet, however the ground here is now starting to freeze, so I may be able to get back into digging action soon here. cont... Building the homestead
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 12:57:00 - [5] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 12:54:20 ...cont As for house plans, I keep changing my mindà Initially, I planned on building a Carriage House, and eventually tie that into a future house. However, now that I have all this equipment, I really need a place to work on them. I have been thinking of building a 40' X 60' barn with Gambrel roof, utilizing the "attic" space as an apartment. IÆm still living with my parents, and IÆd like to get out soon, lolà I think this would be the best option for me. So once the ponds are done, and some landscaping/drainage work is complete, I will start construction on my barn/apartment. I hope things go well this summer, last year was kind of a bust. I need to get my shop built so I can get back to this project... Building the homestead
Sadao Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.01.24 14:26:00 - [6] Edited by: Sadao on 24/01/2007 14:23:29 Thanks for all the great info dark. Where is this plot? I am interested in what your plans are for the trees? Do you plan on using them in the build? Scots pine makes great finishing timber Maple and ash make great furniture, and ash is spectacular on skirting, floors, trim etc... I am currently unemployed, I am a film maker and editor but I am also a fully qualified furniture maker, with a City & Guilds advance craft certificate. I used to work for this chap But my back has taken a beating over the years so I only get to do small projects in my garage now which I occasionally sell the item I make on ebay. So anyway if you want some help with the carpentry, pay for my flights, room, board and beer money I could come give you a hand I once did a similar thing with a friend I met through a scuba diving forum. I ended up staying in Chicago for 6 months building Aluminum window frames But the diving in Lake Michigan was nothing short of spectacular so it more than made up for the hard work. I must say I think it fantastic what your doing and its awesome you doing it with your brothers. My life ambition is to build my own house but land prices in the U.K. are huge and I am not sure my dodgy "Glass back" syndrome would cope with a full build Anyway keep us up to date with your progress, it very interesting. -Sadao
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 14:39:00 - [7] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 14:39:01 Originally by: Sadao Edited by: Sadao on 24/01/2007 14:23:29 Thanks for all the great info dark. Where is this plot? I am interested in what your plans are for the trees? Do you plan on using them in the build? Scots pine makes great finishing timber Maple and ash make great furniture, and ash is spectacular on skirting, floors, trim etc... I am currently unemployed, I am a film maker and editor but I am also a fully qualified furniture maker, with a City & Guilds advance craft certificate. I used to work for this chap But my back has taken a beating over the years so I only get to do small projects in my garage now which I occasionally sell the item I make on ebay. So anyway if you want some help with the carpentry, pay for my flights, room, board and beer money I could come give you a hand I once did a similar thing with a friend I met through a scuba diving forum. I ended up staying in Chicago for 6 months building Aluminum window frames But the diving in Lake Michigan was nothing short of spectacular so it more than made up for the hard work. I must say I think it fantastic what your doing and its awesome you doing it with your brothers. My life ambition is to build my own house but land prices in the U.K. are huge and I am not sure my dodgy "Glass back" syndrome would cope with a full build Anyway keep us up to date with your progress, it very interesting. My lot is about 20 miles east of Niagara Falls. So the scenery is pretty much identical to what you saw in Michigan... It's awesome that you're a furniture maker! That is exactly what I plan to do with the soft maple & ash, furniture and trim work. Another brother of mine (4 of us, lol) has a saw mill, and he is taking the logs and turning them into boards for me. The finishing on the structures will be field stone about 3 feet above grade, and then scotch pine vertical board & batten style siding. This is such a passion of mine I can't even tell you... Building the homestead
Sadao Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.01.24 14:42:00 - [8] Yeah clinker style is awsome. Shingle roof? -Sadao
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 14:45:00 - [9] Edited by: DarkMatter on 24/01/2007 14:44:29 Originally by: Sadao Yeah clinker style is awsome. Shingle roof? I'm thinking powder coated metal roofing, a nice green color... Building the homestead
El Berto Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.24 15:45:00 - [10] I'd love to do some property developement, respect for having the guts to go out and do it. Unfortunatley as some one has said prices for land are rediculus in the UK. Where, oh where will I be able to build a semi-subterranean dome house? ------- Its great being Caldari.

DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 15:50:00 - [11] Originally by: El Berto I'd love to do some property developement, respect for having the guts to go out and do it. Unfortunatley as some one has said prices for land are rediculus in the UK. Where, oh where will I be able to build a semi-subterranean dome house? OMG! Those prices are something else! There is nowhere in the UK you can buy land without homes? Just vacant land? I guess you guys do have a lot less land over there than we do... That's a shame... How does a young couple in the UK go out and build a new home? Building the homestead
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:02:00 - [12] Originally by: DarkMatter How does a young couple in the UK go out and build a new home? They don't. Originally by: Ice Conch In soviet russia, soap drops you!
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 16:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: DarkMatter How does a young couple in the UK go out and build a new home? They don't. Where do you guys live then? When you grow up and move out, where do you move to? You have to wait for old ppl to die and get their houses? My GOD, in the town where I currently live, ~500 new homes were built in the last 3 years... Building the homestead
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:38:00 - [14] Heh, Americans sometimes find hard to grasp just how........empty North America is. the UK is about 1/40th of the size of the USA, with a population slightly over 1/5th- you don't need to do the math to see the difference. In the UK, usually you end up moving into an apartment / house share with someone. A friend of mine and his girly just got their own place, its the upstairs of a 2 story Victorian building, with a couple of girls living downstairs. Most families end up moving into a house on a large housing estate in some town or other, or some house that has been vacated by a previous owner. Actually having land and, like, building your own actual house is the realm of the pretty well-off. -----------------------------------------------
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:31:00 - [15] US has 2,379,400,204 acres for 300,176,035 persons. That's 7.93 acres/person. UK has 60,021,897 acres for 60,876,136 persons. That's .99 acres/person. I guess that is quite a difference... I own .000001681% of the US, lol. For comparison: Russia - 29.10 acres/person China - 1.85 acres/person Looks like you guys need to move to Russia to find land, lol... Building the homestead
Sadao Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:35:00 - [16] Its tough being small -Sadao
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:59:00 - [17] Edited by: Patch86 on 24/01/2007 19:55:53 Just makes me glad I'm not Japanese- I dread to think how little space there is per person there -----------------------------------------------
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 24/01/2007 19:55:53 Just makes me glad I'm not Japanese- I dread to think how little space there is per person there Japan - .74 acres/person Building the homestead
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.25 02:32:00 - [19] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 24/01/2007 19:55:53 Just makes me glad I'm not Japanese- I dread to think how little space there is per person there Japan - .74 acres/person Gotta bear in mind huge chunks of Japan are uninhabitable mountain ranges, to boot........... -----------------------------------------------

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